Who can best help resolve the issues between the sisters? - Page 4

Originally posted by: priyapak

Hi - I agree that Mishti has been thoughtless sometimes - but the scale of thoughtless of Misti's actions towards Kuhu (both singing episodes and b'day) and Kuhu's actions towards Mishti (psuhing her down on Holi, insulting her on every occasion, deriding her birth situation, going behind Mishti's back to maintain a relationship with her sister's then fiancee, scheming and manipulating to ensure Mishti and her true love don't unite just because she does not want her in her maika, wanting Kunal at the expense of someone she has shared a room for many years with zero remorse, bad mouthing her to Meeankshi, blaming her for all her own problems (sometimes I wonder if Kuhu is mentally challenged, how can someone blame someone else for everything in their life - common sense ought to kick in - no?), demanding the mandap at her sisters expense, drugging you sister and for what - to get to do aarthi, then spoiling your sister's relationship by badmouthing her to her own husband, insulting and disrespecting her own mil, sucking up big time to Meenakshi just because she is wealthy (what a hypocrite)...in my mind she does not value Kunal at all - only sees him like a trophy husband and she needs to be center of attention at all times and no one can upstage her, lying to her husband about something she knows is extremely imp to him....the list goes on. It's just not comparable. Mishti deserves some of this - she should be focussed on her own life instead of worrying about Kuhu - why did she need to even try to get Kuhu and Kunal together? I find mahaan people so annoying. If she truly puts Kuhu in her place instead of indulging her - Kuhu will learn her limits.

Instead Mishti is upset for a while and then lets it go. And why can't she tell the truth about Kuhu to Abir. Abir's defense of Kuhu is so unacceptable - I almost lost all respect for him. He pursued Mishti for what - to place her second to Kunal and Kuhu?

Also the talking to she got from Abir and Kunal during the last few episodes was initially good and then Kunal's talk with Abir and then Abir feeling bad - ruined it for me. People need to be strongly held responsible for their actions.

Wrt advantages Mishti has over Kuhu - I disagree.

Mishti has the advantage of a loving husband because they truly love each other for who each other is - the marriage did not happen because of superficial things like a red sports car or the rajvansh name or money - Misbir is a romance, KuKu is infatuation on one end and convenience on another....shows Kuhu's imaturity in settling for this.

Regarding parents - both sets of parents are exemplary - in fact Kuhu's mother is even more fiercely protective of Kuhu than badi maa - who tends to be more fair. I remember Kuhu's dad on multiple occasions stepping up for Kuhu - when their wedding was fixed and esp when the news of her divorce came out - he certainly was not quiet. Understanding whose advice is good and and who is looking to create trouble (Jasmeet) is a sign of maturity and discernment....which Kuhu lacks. Can't blame ones own character failures on surroundings and others. Kuhu needs to first understand herself, and change before she can be redeemed. Being good to rest of Rajvansh's family means nothing. She needs their favour to indulge and fan her almost narcissistic temperament.

I enjoy watching both these actresses on screen and don't favor one over the other in terms of how they enact the role each play. Kaveri dances well - carries outfits really well, nails the air head entitled role and Rhea plays her well balanced thoughtful, resourceful try hard - role very convincingly as well.

But in terms of the actual roles they play - Mishti's character on screen far outshines Kuhu's.

Sorry - got a bit carried away :)

Oh I get carried away all the time, so I completely understand.

I'm also totally with you on the actresses. They are both really good. In fact, I like the whole cast in this show! I also like Mishti's character on screen, and she is a personal favorite. I think we just appreciate different things about her character, and I see Kuhu a little differently.

As I mentioned when I listed the times Mishti was thoughtless, I didn't list the times Kuhu was and do know the list is longer.

@bold - can you elaborate? I don't remember where she went behind Mishti's back to maintain a relationship with Kunal, and I thought Mishti and Abir were more keen about kuku initially. ButI may be forgetting some things.

I'm not saying Kuhu didn't do all that you mentioned, or that she should keep blaming Mishti for all her problems. In fact, until she stops this and focuses on her own life, she will not find any happiness. I just disagree that she doesn't deserve any happiness just because of the way she behaves with Mishti. And, I was just trying to explain that in her mind, she has a reason for not liking Mishti and feeling hurt by what Mishti did to her. And that brings me to Mishti's character. She, unlike Kuhu, does not keep score of all the wrongs Kuhu has done to her. And I really like that about her. We cannot really control what others do, only what we do and our reaction - in this case, acceptance and trying to find the smoothest way forward, and that's what she was attempting to do.

I'm inclined to view Kuhu's character a little differently. I agree she blames Mishti for everything bad going on in her life, it seems like a lifelong habit and needs to change for her own sake. She is just afraid she'll fade into the background if Mishti is around (not saying this is how it is, just her perception) and that Mishti will upset the applecart she has painstakingly put together. She really behaves like a totally different person when Mishti is not around. I don't think she sucks up to Meenakshi just because she's wealthy or that she is just infatuated with Kunal because of his sports car or consider him a trophy husband. Unfortunately, I follow their love story only peripherally and don't connect with it as I do to Mishbir, so I can't point out everything. Just some of the things that struck me - she tries to talk and connect with him as a person (when he picks her up late night, Champaner trip are some examples). She sticks with him and tries to work things out despite the way he behaves on their wedding night and after. And she comforts him when his world falls apart. Kunal has a lot to do to make up to Kuhu. As for lying to him about the pills - she was already terrified and what he said would have made anyone wonder about confessing. Not an excuse, just an explanation. I also think she should tell him the truth, and soon.

Regarding Mishti - yes she should leave Kuhu alone after being repeatedly told to, but she does love her and considers her part of her family. You do forgive a lot from family. Having a high tolerance level doesn't necessarily make someone mahaan to me, not unless they are sacrificing their own happiness for someone who doesn't care a bit for them. Mishti has never been that self-sacrificing - she told Kuhu to her face that if she could do so much to get her together with Kunal, then what would she not do to get together with Abir and went on to prove that she would stop at literally nothing! If she puts Kuhu in her place by bringing up all that happened in the past and how Kuhu used to behave with her, it would make Mishti sound bitter and spoil her character for me a little. I actually like the fact that she can let it go. I just believe that if something upsets you, address it right away if you can (like she confronted Kuhu about the emails and, even recently, about the pills), or just let it go. Like I said, we appreciate different aspects of her character. But I agree she should share with Abir and I think she wants to, hopefully he will listen.

I don't see Abir putting Mishti second place to anyone. He wanted to stay apart for her sake. Even now, he's concerned Meenu is planning something against her. He tried to get the sisters together. All he's asking (because he can see the bigger picture) is for her to let the sleeping pills issue go. Remember he thinks (based on what he overheard) that they fell in the coffee by mistake. He also knows Meenu might be planning something and wants to guard against that by going back with kuku. I agree though that he should have explained, and listened to her explanation. Abir feeling bad for what he said to Kuhu seems very much in character for him, he even feels bad for the person who leaves him to die toh yeh kya cheez hai 😆.

I don't remember a lot about Shaurya, so maybe I missed that. But about Varsha, I'm not saying she's not there for Kuhu but that Kuhu is not talking to her. I don't diagree at all about her listening to the wrong person.

@bold italics - I agree with the first, but I can't quite agree with the second, even though I actually really dislike how she's treating Parul now. 😊

I hope you don't mind all the long replies I make. I love a good debate, and that can only happen when someone has an opposing view and is willing to engage. 🤗

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@priyapak- I understand everything you’re saying and I somewhat agree also but here’s how I see the situation. I am not trying to change your POV btw, this is just how I feel about everything.

One thing about Kuhu- from the beginning itself she has always felt second place to Mishti. She has always felt like everyone validates Mishti for her emotions while she is discarded. You can check the episode where Kuhu confronts Mishti after Kuhu is rejected by Meenu. She says it to her face that, ‘every time you’re upset, it’s pain but when it’s me, it’s my tantrum’ meaning she has never felt that her emotions were valued in her own house.

Like when they agreed to get Mishti married to Kunal (I still can’t believe they did that) it was like another punch in the gut for her after the rejection from Meenakshi. The One thing she thought was going to be just hers, was ‘stolen’ from under her feet. See, that’s how she sees it. She sees it as Mishti stealing everything she has. Exactly how Kuhu thought Mishti was stealing her attention and toys when Mishti came into the house.

Mishti wants to ‘help/fix’ others because she takes blame for everything. From childhood, she was blamed for her parents separation. That is a traumatic experience for any kid. So she feels like she has to be in the forefront of helping everyone so that she doesn’t get blamed for any problem. She also feels somewhat debt towards Bade Papa and Badi Ma because they took her in. It comes from her insecurity of being abandoned once. I suspect she has PTSD of being abandoned. Abir just messed up big time btw

She has also been blamed by Kuhu herself as well as jasmeet and Meenu.

Kuhu blames Mishti because her frustration is misplaced. She has seen from the beginning that every time it’s her function- Mishti steals the show. Some examples- during Sangeet when Mishti danced and everyone praises her, and on her Mehandi when Ananya said she wants to give sweets to Mishti first because she has planned the surprise- at that time Kuhu even told Kunal that even my own sister cares more for Mishti than me. (I’ve been rewatching the show 😆)

It is a bruise she has had from childhood. It won’t go away until she/ someone else addresses it.

I’ll give you a real life example. My sister still talks about how when we were kids, someone gave me a toy and didn’t give her one. Along with other experiences, She used to blame me and make me feel horrible because she felt like I stole her ‘spot’. Even though, she should’ve felt distain for the person doing the partiality, she hated me because I was always around her. I was the reason for her feeling less than. That’s how a kid thinks, they are not mature enough to know any better.

That’s exactly what Kuhu is doing.

I’m not justifying everything she did, I’m saying she was a kid and a kid doesn’t know how to process their emotions and don’t know how to express their feelings (especially feelings of neglect and resentment) and where to direct it. Even when she got older, more incidents happened where they were pitted against each other and she just kept blaming her for all her troubles.

About sportscar thing- here’s my outlook on that- she saw a handsome guy in a red shinning car and she immediately felt attraction, he was like the Prince Charming she was waiting for. Yes, it was just infatuation at first.

I agree Kuhu was first physically attracted to him but then she got to know him better and fell in love with the way he was treating her. There’s a dialogue that Kuhu has after both sisters get busted by the parents for going to swetha’s party where Kuhu says, “He wants to meet with me, he wants to be my friend even after Mishti rejected him. He doesn’t care about what’s happening between the families”. She was already smitten with the guy and even after her sister rejected him, he was willing to be around her this was a huge thing for her. She didn’t know he was faking.

Just imagine, shes felt rejected by her family, when a guy comes along and looks into her eyes and says he wants to be with her- she fell for it.
I do agree her ways were a bit extreme and she shouldn’t have went to that level but she was in love with Kunal and he was supporting her and she felt like that’s all she needed.

Kuhu really just wanted a family where she was valued and accepted. She got that with the Rajvansh family, even though she didn’t get the love from Kunal- she got it from his family. This is why she hesitates Mishti coming into that space. It was a home where there was no Mishti to steal her ‘spotlight’ as she calls it.

She really does need to work on it, I don’t disagree. She needs to look inside herself and feel self-worth and accept herself so that she can feel accepted by those around her.
Kuhu feels like Mishti is out to get her. It’s just something she has fixed into her head, she needs to change that. And people like Meenu and Jasmeet who keep repeating it does not help either.

We are human beings and it is a fact that we get influenced by others words and actions. Especially when we have felt like the said person has been a threat. Kuhu has seen Mishti as a threat from the beginning.

I’m not trying to change your point of view, just wanted to put out there how I see the sisters.

It’s a very complicated relationship, both are not saints. There is no right and wrong here, it’s like when two people mess up and you just try to find who is less at fault. Everyone in the whole show has made multiple mistakes and is still making. We are all just in love with certain characters because we see ourselves in them.

I am also not biased towards one or the other. If anything, I relate more to Mishti having been blamed for something I have no control over 🤣but then I tried to look at it from Kuhu’s perspective and that’s what you just read in my essay. I cannot believe I wrote all that

I got a little carried away also as you can see and I write like a preschooler don’t mind 😂

Originally posted by: tumhiho

Hello hello, I’m backkkk! 😎
No one called me here but I can’t help myself, when I read yall’s conversation I had to insert myself in there lol. Everyone in this forum already knows how geeky I am when it comes to MishKu😆

Hope y’all have fun reading the essay that I wrote 👍🏼I sincerely apologize for the length oh my god, I didn’t realize it was this long

@priyapak- I understand everything you’re saying and I somewhat agree also but here’s how I see the situation. I am not trying to change your POV btw, this is just how I feel about everything.

One thing about Kuhu- from the beginning itself she has always felt second place to Mishti. She has always felt like everyone validates Mishti for her emotions while she is discarded. You can check the episode where Kuhu confronts Mishti after Kuhu is rejected by Meenu. She says it to her face that, ‘every time you’re upset, it’s pain but when it’s me, it’s my tantrum’ meaning she has never felt that her emotions were valued in her own house.

Like when they agreed to get Mishti married to Kunal (I still can’t believe they did that) it was like another punch in the gut for her after the rejection from Meenakshi. The One thing she thought was going to be just hers, was ‘stolen’ from under her feet. See, that’s how she sees it. She sees it as Mishti stealing everything she has. Exactly how Kuhu thought Mishti was stealing her attention and toys when Mishti came into the house.

Mishti wants to ‘help/fix’ others because she takes blame for everything. From childhood, she was blamed for her parents separation. That is a traumatic experience for any kid. So she feels like she has to be in the forefront of helping everyone so that she doesn’t get blamed for any problem. She also feels somewhat debt towards Bade Papa and Badi Ma because they took her in. It comes from her insecurity of being abandoned once. I suspect she has PTSD of being abandoned. Abir just messed up big time btw

She has also been blamed by Kuhu herself as well as jasmeet and Meenu.

Kuhu blames Mishti because her frustration is misplaced. She has seen from the beginning that every time it’s her function- Mishti steals the show. Some examples- during Sangeet when Mishti danced and everyone praises her, and on her Mehandi when Ananya said she wants to give sweets to Mishti first because she has planned the surprise- at that time Kuhu even told Kunal that even my own sister cares more for Mishti than me. (I’ve been rewatching the show 😆)

It is a bruise she has had from childhood. It won’t go away until she/ someone else addresses it.

I’ll give you a real life example. My sister still talks about how when we were kids, someone gave me a toy and didn’t give her one. Along with other experiences, She used to blame me and make me feel horrible because she felt like I stole her ‘spot’. Even though, she should’ve felt distain for the person doing the partiality, she hated me because I was always around her. I was the reason for her feeling less than. That’s how a kid thinks, they are not mature enough to know any better.

That’s exactly what Kuhu is doing.

I’m not justifying everything she did, I’m saying she was a kid and a kid doesn’t know how to process their emotions and don’t know how to express their feelings (especially feelings of neglect and resentment) and where to direct it. Even when she got older, more incidents happened where they were pitted against each other and she just kept blaming her for all her troubles.

About sportscar thing- here’s my outlook on that- she saw a handsome guy in a red shinning car and she immediately felt attraction, he was like the Prince Charming she was waiting for. Yes, it was just infatuation at first.

I agree Kuhu was first physically attracted to him but then she got to know him better and fell in love with the way he was treating her. There’s a dialogue that Kuhu has after both sisters get busted by the parents for going to swetha’s party where Kuhu says, “He wants to meet with me, he wants to be my friend even after Mishti rejected him. He doesn’t care about what’s happening between the families”. She was already smitten with the guy and even after her sister rejected him, he was willing to be around her this was a huge thing for her. She didn’t know he was faking.

Just imagine, shes felt rejected by her family, when a guy comes along and looks into her eyes and says he wants to be with her- she fell for it.
I do agree her ways were a bit extreme and she shouldn’t have went to that level but she was in love with Kunal and he was supporting her and she felt like that’s all she needed.

Kuhu really just wanted a family where she was valued and accepted. She got that with the Rajvansh family, even though she didn’t get the love from Kunal- she got it from his family. This is why she hesitates Mishti coming into that space. It was a home where there was no Mishti to steal her ‘spotlight’ as she calls it.

She really does need to work on it, I don’t disagree. She needs to look inside herself and feel self-worth and accept herself so that she can feel accepted by those around her.
Kuhu feels like Mishti is out to get her. It’s just something she has fixed into her head, she needs to change that. And people like Meenu and Jasmeet who keep repeating it does not help either.

We are human beings and it is a fact that we get influenced by others words and actions. Especially when we have felt like the said person has been a threat. Kuhu has seen Mishti as a threat from the beginning.

I’m not trying to change your point of view, just wanted to put out there how I see the sisters.

It’s a very complicated relationship, both are not saints. There is no right and wrong here, it’s like when two people mess up and you just try to find who is less at fault. Everyone in the whole show has made multiple mistakes and is still making. We are all just in love with certain characters because we see ourselves in them.

I am also not biased towards one or the other. If anything, I relate more to Mishti having been blamed for something I have no control over 🤣but then I tried to look at it from Kuhu’s perspective and that’s what you just read in my essay. I cannot believe I wrote all that

I got a little carried away also as you can see and I write like a preschooler don’t mind 😂

Richu tell me which preschool you go to. I want to enroll my son so he learns how to write 🤣.

Seriously, stop selling yourself short. And of course you can join us here. It started as something else and now we're full on discussing relationship between the sisters and I absolutely love all the posts I've read so far. Here we are seeing the same people and the same scenes and our minds and the experiences we've had make us see and feel things so differently. All this discussion is helping me crystalize in my mind why I feel a certain way and hopefully I'm able to articulate that. And the last post I made took me longer and made me think deeper because sometimes I couldn't seem to explain why I felt a certain way (thanks priyapak). I identify strongly with Mishti but still can't seem to feel Kuhu is a vamp and can't always understand or articulate why. So all this helps.

I'm only going to address one point you made and see what your reasoning is because it has always bothered me. Why does Kuhu feel that way when Mishti dances at the Sangeet? Everyone was dancing, including her mother and grandmother. So why does she suddenly feel bad when Mishti does?

I wanted to work on my story now and got distracted and came here. I will go through your post in detail and see if I have other questions/comments. In the meantime, tell your preschool teachers they are doing an excellent job 😆.

Why there is so much fuss if a girl falls for a boy at first sight.Abir also got attracted to Misti at first meet.It is not that Kuhu is materialistic .Her father is also rich & can afford a sports car. She fell for an handsome boy who was just driving a fancy car.

Regarding Mishku issues to be solved,I think only kunal can help w/o being biased .He should explain her with love.In real life during such situation one brother stays separately.I don't want Abir should go as Meenu will continue to manipulate kuhu / kunal.So it is better or rather high time kunal should stay separately with kuhu & parul.It will be good for Parul also she can live with self respect in her son's house than RV where she will always be reminded as other women by Meenu/Nidhi.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

Richu tell me which preschool you go to. I want to enroll my son so he learns how to write 🤣.

Seriously, stop selling yourself short. And of course you can join us here. It started as something else and now we're full on discussing relationship between the sisters and I absolutely love all the posts I've read so far. Here we are seeing the same people and the same scenes and our minds and the experiences we've had make us see and feel things so differently. All this discussion is helping me crystalize in my mind why I feel a certain way and hopefully I'm able to articulate that. And the last post I made took me longer and made me think deeper because sometimes I couldn't seem to explain why I felt a certain way (thanks priyapak). I identify strongly with Mishti but still can't seem to feel Kuhu is a vamp and can't always understand or articulate why. So all this helps.

I'm only going to address one point you made and see what your reasoning is because it has always bothered me. Why does Kuhu feel that way when Mishti dances at the Sangeet? Everyone was dancing, including her mother and grandmother. So why does she suddenly feel bad when Mishti does?

I wanted to work on my story now and got distracted and came here. I will go through your post in detail and see if I have other questions/comments. In the meantime, tell your preschool teachers they are doing an excellent job 😆.

Hahha!!! Thank you Daya, I swear I was so nervous about posting it. My heart started pounding 😂😂 And also a convent school in Kerala, I guess the nuns did a good job 😂😂😂

Coming to why Kuhu felt uneasy about Mishti dancing at her Sangeet. She has had the same experience over and over again, her sitting and watching while Mishti performs and steals the show- example: the night at the nigh club, the pilot episode etc. Maybe she was also upset because she was not called to dance along? If it was a girls group dance then why wasn’t she involved, she’s the bride after all . Mishti wasn’t thinking like that, she just wanted to do something special. But since Kuhu already has inferiority complex when it comes to Mishti, it bothers her further.

There’s a scene afterwards where Kuhu seems to be mad at Mishti. Abir comes there and asks what they are whispering about. Kuhu says “Mishti’s ghoomar took all the attention”. Like it’s my Sangeet, and she’s here dancing and being the center of attention. That’s how a person with insecurity thinks.

I’ve had many personal experiences when I would win competitions and my sister looked like she wanted to rip my head off. I know it’s not possible to live our life according to what another person wants, but if we know they have a problem we should be considerate towards that right? That’s how I see Kuhu’s character. She needs some help realizing she doesn’t have to see everything as a competition between her and Mishti.

Can’t wait to read your story!!! I love both of them :)

Originally posted by: NamrataRa

Why there is so much fuss if a girl falls for a boy at first sight.Abir also got attracted to Misti at first meet.It is not that Kuhu is materialistic .Her father is also rich & can afford a sports car. She fell for an handsome boy who was just driving a fancy car.

Regarding Mishku issues to be solved,I think only kunal can help w/o being biased .He should explain her with love.In real life during such situation one brother stays separately.I don't want Abir should go as Meenu will continue to manipulate kuhu / kunal.So it is better or rather high time kunal should stay separately with kuhu & parul.It will be good for Parul also she can live with self respect in her son's house than RV where she will always be reminded as other women by Meenu/Nidhi.

@bold - I understand your reasoning, but I can't imagine Mishti, Abir and Meenu in the same house without Kunal and Parul there 😆 Ulta, I've been dreaming Mishbir staying separate with Parul 😊. Also, I can't imagine Kunal without his maa and bhai. But we're unlikely to get anyone staying separate I think.

Originally posted by: tumhiho

Hahha!!! Thank you Daya, I swear I was so nervous about posting it. My heart started pounding 😂😂 And also a convent school in Kerala, I guess the nuns did a good job 😂😂😂

Coming to why Kuhu felt uneasy about Mishti dancing at her Sangeet. She has had the same experience over and over again, her sitting and watching while Mishti performs and steals the show- example: the night at the nigh club, the pilot episode etc. Maybe she was also upset because she was not called to dance along? If it was a girls group dance then why wasn’t she involved, she’s the bride after all . Mishti wasn’t thinking like that, she just wanted to do something special. But since Kuhu already has inferiority complex when it comes to Mishti, it bothers her further.

There’s a scene afterwards where Kuhu seems to be mad at Mishti. Abir comes there and asks what they are whispering about. Kuhu says “Mishti’s ghoomar took all the attention”. Like it’s my Sangeet, and she’s here dancing and being the center of attention. That’s how a person with insecurity thinks.

I’ve had many personal experiences when I would win competitions and my sister looked like she wanted to rip my head off. I know it’s not possible to live our life according to what another person wants, but if we know they have a problem we should be considerate towards that right? That’s how I see Kuhu’s character. She needs some help realizing she doesn’t have to see everything as a competition between her and Mishti.

Can’t wait to read your story!!! I love both of them :)

😆

Yeah I understood the others but couldn't quite grasp this one because bride doesn't participate in all events in the sangeet na? Anyway, I guess if you dislike someone, you're determined to see something wrong in everything they do.

And I love your running commentary 😊

Originally posted by: angelfire78

@bold - I understand your reasoning, but I can't imagine Mishti, Abir and Meenu in the same house without Kunal and Parul there 😆 Ulta, I've been dreaming Mishbir staying separate with Parul 😊. Also, I can't imagine Kunal without his maa and bhai. But we're unlikely to get anyone staying separate I think.

Yeah ATM no one will move out . Cost cutting you know.All four characters under one roof is required to move the story forward.Right from first episode we are watching both couples relationship are tangled with each other.No escape.Meenu will continue to rule the RV till the end of the show.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

Oh I get carried away all the time, so I completely understand.

I'm also totally with you on the actresses. They are both really good. In fact, I like the whole cast in this show! I also like Mishti's character on screen, and she is a personal favorite. I think we just appreciate different things about her character, and I see Kuhu a little differently.

As I mentioned when I listed the times Mishti was thoughtless, I didn't list the times Kuhu was and do know the list is longer.

@bold - can you elaborate? I don't remember where she went behind Mishti's back to maintain a relationship with Kunal, and I thought Mishti and Abir were more keen about kuku initially. ButI may be forgetting some things.

I'm not saying Kuhu didn't do all that you mentioned, or that she should keep blaming Mishti for all her problems. In fact, until she stops this and focuses on her own life, she will not find any happiness. I just disagree that she doesn't deserve any happiness just because of the way she behaves with Mishti. And, I was just trying to explain that in her mind, she has a reason for not liking Mishti and feeling hurt by what Mishti did to her. And that brings me to Mishti's character. She, unlike Kuhu, does not keep score of all the wrongs Kuhu has done to her. And I really like that about her. We cannot really control what others do, only what we do and our reaction - in this case, acceptance and trying to find the smoothest way forward, and that's what she was attempting to do.

I'm inclined to view Kuhu's character a little differently. I agree she blames Mishti for everything bad going on in her life, it seems like a lifelong habit and needs to change for her own sake. She is just afraid she'll fade into the background if Mishti is around (not saying this is how it is, just her perception) and that Mishti will upset the applecart she has painstakingly put together. She really behaves like a totally different person when Mishti is not around. I don't think she sucks up to Meenakshi just because she's wealthy or that she is just infatuated with Kunal because of his sports car or consider him a trophy husband. Unfortunately, I follow their love story only peripherally and don't connect with it as I do to Mishbir, so I can't point out everything. Just some of the things that struck me - she tries to talk and connect with him as a person (when he picks her up late night, Champaner trip are some examples). She sticks with him and tries to work things out despite the way he behaves on their wedding night and after. And she comforts him when his world falls apart. Kunal has a lot to do to make up to Kuhu. As for lying to him about the pills - she was already terrified and what he said would have made anyone wonder about confessing. Not an excuse, just an explanation. I also think she should tell him the truth, and soon.

Regarding Mishti - yes she should leave Kuhu alone after being repeatedly told to, but she does love her and considers her part of her family. You do forgive a lot from family. Having a high tolerance level doesn't necessarily make someone mahaan to me, not unless they are sacrificing their own happiness for someone who doesn't care a bit for them. Mishti has never been that self-sacrificing - she told Kuhu to her face that if she could do so much to get her together with Kunal, then what would she not do to get together with Abir and went on to prove that she would stop at literally nothing! If she puts Kuhu in her place by bringing up all that happened in the past and how Kuhu used to behave with her, it would make Mishti sound bitter and spoil her character for me a little. I actually like the fact that she can let it go. I just believe that if something upsets you, address it right away if you can (like she confronted Kuhu about the emails and, even recently, about the pills), or just let it go. Like I said, we appreciate different aspects of her character. But I agree she should share with Abir and I think she wants to, hopefully he will listen.

I don't see Abir putting Mishti second place to anyone. He wanted to stay apart for her sake. Even now, he's concerned Meenu is planning something against her. He tried to get the sisters together. All he's asking (because he can see the bigger picture) is for her to let the sleeping pills issue go. Remember he thinks (based on what he overheard) that they fell in the coffee by mistake. He also knows Meenu might be planning something and wants to guard against that by going back with kuku. I agree though that he should have explained, and listened to her explanation. Abir feeling bad for what he said to Kuhu seems very much in character for him, he even feels bad for the person who leaves him to die toh yeh kya cheez hai 😆.

I don't remember a lot about Shaurya, so maybe I missed that. But about Varsha, I'm not saying she's not there for Kuhu but that Kuhu is not talking to her. I don't diagree at all about her listening to the wrong person.

@bold italics - I agree with the first, but I can't quite agree with the second, even though I actually really dislike how she's treating Parul now. 😊

I hope you don't mind all the long replies I make. I love a good debate, and that can only happen when someone has an opposing view and is willing to engage. 🤗

Thanks for responding. So to address the bolded portions. While the Kunal Mishti relationship was on - Kuhu had given her consent for the relationship - but was still enamoured of Kunal. For example she accepted the bracelet from him and was loathe to mention it to Mishti - she went to work for Red Pear knowing she was rejected and that Mishti also had applied for the job. There is s line in one of the later episodes where Mishti questions Kuhu on this - on how she was justified in pursuing Kunal when he was was spoken for Mishti. I'm watching the show again and will remember to point out the specifics for you. I cannot completely remember each incident as well.

Some questions for you :)

1. So what did Mishti do to Kuhu? ...that was of Mishti's own doing .... not the rest of the family. How the family reacted to Mishti's adoption is not something to blame Mishti for? It's probably a lifetime of sulking over such imagined slights that cause the Maheshwari's to regard Kuhu's reactions as immature, akin to tantrums - example her bday being forgotten, the doll given to Mishti, teacher writing Mishti's name on Kuhu's notebook. I do understand how an immature insecure child can develop such dislike for Mishti - absolutely. Kuhu having a reason for how she is does not absolve her - it does make me understand why she is that way and it is nothing related to Mishti - maybe rather the family - over whom Mishti has no intentional sway. A smarter person would probably get it - but Kuhu who touts herself on how great she is - is actually quite insecure and unsure of herself and has thus become perfect ammunition for Meenakshi.

2. So why is she trying so hard to impress Meenakshi? She is not her MIL and has rubbed it in on more than one occasion, Kuhu flatters her, tells her she considers her true main saas, wows on her wedding day to ensure Mishti Meenu's relationship stays bad, badmouths Mishti. It's not like she actually likes Meenakshi. In the latest episodes she shows zero regard for Meenakshi - in terms of going home from their honeymoon - so its then all an act - no? Let me ask a diff way. If Meenakshi was not powerful - do you think Kuhu would care so much for her?

3. not a question. I cannot even buy into the Kuku romance - i just don't feel it - maybe because I can't see the love or the relationship is so eclipsed by the stronger love story or maybe there is no chemistry between these 2. Even Kunal and Mishti have better chemistry. You know when i started watching the series - I thought Mishti was miscast and almost girl like. I did not expect Misbir chemistry to develop the way it has...so much for my first instincts - I really enjoy their scenes now. (Tho - I still squirm when I watch Mishti's crying scenes - she does not cry well - Kuhu does a better job of it)

4. Mishti intentionally kept Abir at a distance for a while - so as to not jeopardize Kuhu's relationship. She knew accepting Abir would jeopardise Kuku relationship - so she kept dodging Abir's advances. That is sacrificial. She also did not willingly share with Abir what Meenakshi made her do (reveal Kuhu's parenatge) and was quite prepared to leave to Mumbai and risk her own relationship.

5. Abir chose Kunal over Mishti when he broke up with her. This is after Bade papa asked him - what he would do if he had to choose - when Abir came to ask for Mishti's hand. Again during the last few episodes - Abir chose to go home with Kunal than stay back with Mishti. Post marriage I cannot relate much to Abir. He compared Mishti to Meenakshi twice - that she always wants to fight, how he can think that is beyond me...how much more Mishti has to do to get his trust? Disappointing - I guess the storyline has to progress.

Regarding Kuhu - I realize she is not a bad person - but how can someone be so blind and stupid? She must know that Mishti is not a bad person. Like I said earlier - I understand why she is this way - but that does not absolve her. She needs a big jhatka - Kunal finding out about all her misdeeds to date, something for her to wake up and see the world as it truly is - not what she imagines it to be. And yes...she needs to get Jasmeet out of her life.

thanks for the chance to discuss my observations. it is a pleasure debating with someone who can respond rationally. I usually shy away from sharing my views for fear of offending fans and invoking their wrath!

Bhai I don't know y every one is busy proving dat both couples story is involve eachother . It's not , u can say Kunal plays a big role in mishbir story otherwise kuku is not anyway involved with mishbir . If u r talking about dis track kuhu insecurity track didn't fetch any great trp till now and dey spoiled mishbir wedding track also . Due u think after spoiling mishbir wedding track any mishbir fan will be interested in dis 10 yr old tantrums track . Don't believe RS he will change d track overnight