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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Yes if someone talks nicely with naira, to b jal jati hai . She feels insecure with naira's presence in the house .May be she has no idea what history naira shares with this family but she has already seen how much kartik was missing her even after her dealth . She doesn't want to accept reality that kartik never loved her the way he loves naira and he will never going to love her in that way . Vedika knows very well her roots in the goenka mension is not as much strong as naira's so she feels insecure .

Chipkali thinks she can remove not only naira but also kairav from kartik's life. She is well aware how much kartik loves his son. She wants to live in bubble . I really dislike her with her disgusting thought of separating kartik-kairav.

Naira was wrong when she took call of hiding child's existence/separated him from his father for her self respect .There are so many ways to protect your self respect without hiding child's existence from father. Sad but reality is she took worst way for her self respect .Vedika is also wrong because of her dirty mind of separating kairav from his father for her selfish dream of happy marriage life by removing kairav from his life.

For me , both the women are wrong and taking decisions about marriage on kartik's behalf .

Naira took the decision to leave without facing situation . After vocalizing his doubt on naira's character , naira took the call about what their marriage deserves after his question and she left forever leaving that marriage behind. Kartik never got a chance to think about how to process further in that marriage. Before he thinks, reacts or come back in his senses , decision was taken by naira on their marriage. She left with their child forever. She took the call to never inform kartik about his fatherhood . Ek shaddi mai do log hote hai par shaddi ka anjam kya hona chahiye woh decide sirf naira ne kiya . Uss sawal ke baad uss shaddi ka kya anjam hona chahiye , divorce lena chahiye, separation way lena chahiye, naira se mafi mangni chahiye , shaddi ka kya anjaam hona chahiye woh decide karne ka haqq pati-patni dono ka hota hai. Domestic violence,dowry , infidelity in sab ke baad bhi couple sath court mai jate or decide karte hai ki unki shaddi ka kya anjaam hoga ab. Afsoos naira ne khud he anjaam bhi decide kar liya. Kartik never got a chance about what should be next for their marriage after his question. Itna haqq to admi ko bhi milna chahiye kyoki shaddi to usne bhi kiya tha.

Kartik lost everything because of his anger , insecurity and that question. He got severe punishment and he missed the rights to know that he is proud father of son ,he missed his childhood which is not at all small punishment. Anyways shaddi ka anjaam naira ne akele ne decide kar liya.

Vedika is also doing same. Again ek shaddi mai do log hote hai . Kartik apne bacche ke sath rehna chahta hai ya nai , yeh kartik se jane bina selfish ban kar apni happiness ke liye kairav ko kartik ke life se remove karne ka decision le liye. Kartik ko bina face kare ,unki shaddi ke sab decision or shaddi ka anjaam khud he decide kar rahi hai.

I don't get it, yeh log shaddi ka matlab bhi samajte hai kya??! Unmarried logo ko itna samaj nai hota ki ek shaddi mai do log hote hai or situation chahe kitna bhi worst ho jaye dono ke bich, shaddi ka anjaam do log mil kar decide karte hai. Yaha to kartik ko bina face kiye sab kuch ladies he decide kar rahi hai.

Pehli shaddi ka anjaam kya hona chahiye woh akele naira ne decide kar liya tha jo bahot zyada immature/galar tarika tha. Ab vedika apne bubble mai selfish ban kar ina kartik ko face kiye sab decide kar rahi hai or yeh bhi utni he galat hai.

Kartik ko pehli biwi bhi aisi he mili thi jisne kabhi baat-chit/discussion/face to face talk ka rasta lena zaruri nai samja or shaddi ka anjaam akele ne decide kiya.Kartik ko dusri biwi bhi aisi he mili jo uske sath bina baat-chit/discussion/face to face talk kiye shaddi ke decisions akele he le rahi hai.

Normally in marriages or in a relationships its rarely two people deciding everything together...one mostly tends to decide more than other one in few matters...though when mutual respect is there the decision by one is accepted by both...Divorce is not always mutual...same goes for abandonment....What if one of the spouse doesn't want to live in marriage or live with spouse?...he/she want to divorce his/her husband for whatever reasons....can the other one who doesn't want divorce compel his/her spouse not to take divorce?....according to law he/she can't...staying in a marriage or not, remarrying, divorcing is not always a couple's decision...it can be an individual's decision...Naira abandoned them all for her mental peace and for her child as she didn't want his paternity to be questioned by Kartik...her family abandoned her first....by not searching for any of traces of her death or her dead body before assuming her dead the verry next morning...According to my POV what Naira decided for Kartik and Kairav...as she thought Kairav's paternity will be questioned...Kairav won't be accepted by all...Kairav will have to undergo tests to prove he is Kartik Goenkas son....even to protect Kairav....the decision was wrong exceedingly wrong....something that lessened the impact of Kartik accusing her of infidelity....

On other side...c'mon....Naira can't be compared with Vedika...Naira has always forgiven Kartik without showering him with taunts....she tried to understand him...except obviously when he accused her of infidelity...as no woman who forgave the man after not being able to see her dead child one last time...who forgave the man when he forged her sign on abortion papers...who forgave the man when he had no direct conversation with her regarding his sister being the cause of her mother Akshara's death (infact she apologized)...whom she forgave even after being called his brother's murderer....that also repeatedly....she forgave him after him abandoning her for 2 years...and choosing his step mother whom he use to hate once upon a time over her...Naira loved him beyond herself as she always to tried to understand his reasons and his reactions also tried to calm him down most of the times...she had been his companion for more than 5 long years....she was an understanding and loving wife...Period...nothing can change that...not even abandonment for 5 years...after giving so much to her marriage...to her relationship....she didn't deserved to be questioned...that also she didn't deserve to be questioned regarding her chastity....but Kartik also didn't deserve to be separated from his child...that one decision actually made Naira the understanding one appear irrational and even more wrong than Kartik....

Edited by CaptiveFreedom - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#32

To be honest, many times I don't find Vedika wrong. Like today. Getting jealous is obvious, anyone would be jealous if something like this happened, especially someone like Vedika who is already insecure, lonely and devoid of attention by the family lately.

But there are certain times I do find Vedika wrong. The times when she confronts Naira and not Kartik. It's fishy. She thinks that Naira is an easy target and attacks her constantly and feels that she is superior to her in certain things. She wouldn't dare to question Kartik for the same issue as she has to be in his good books. And the same follows with the rest of the family as she continues to show herself pious.

If the child belongs to Naira, so does it belong to Kartik. If she loves Kartik even by 1% why doesn't she ask him whether he will be comfortable being without his son? If she demands attention from everyone, she means that she wants everyone to care about her doesn't she! But what about the emotions she needs to first carry for anyone else to reciprocate it to her? Does she ever think the impact everyone will have as the latter's crucial family members leave again? Hypocrite much.

It's okay to expect someone to fulfill the promise once made to you, but it's not alright when you nag that person down or literally blackmail that person for getting your work done. That's harassment my dear. Also hitting below the belt for the same (bhagna pehli Baar se to aasan hi hoga) is absolutely low on her part. It is. She wasn't even ****ING there at the time when Naira was leaving. She doesn't know anything about her, her past or her relationship with Kartik. Questioning Naira was just stooping down to another level. It was cheap in my opinion.

Love.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fireiswithinus

oh thank god.

I really thought they made out or gave in their feelings or talked how they loved each other or something.

Vedika after this will say to naira ki kartik ne apne man se shadi ki thi uspr koi dabav nahi tha...

Haash.. instead of talking naira why doesnt she question kartik....because that is nairas room right ? He came in... not the other way around. But girls ko blame krna hai.... toh kya kr skte hai...

Anything interesting in whole episode ?

Vedika questions Naira because it is easier to bully and emotionally blackmail Naira than Kartik. Also she wants to look innocent in front of Kartik.

That’s it. Vedika catching them in bed was the highlight of this episode.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: aasmanviewer

Vedika questions Naira because it is easier to bully and emotionally blackmail Naira than Kartik. Also she wants to look innocent in front of Kartik.

That’s it. Vedika catching them in bed was the highlight of this episode.

And here i was thinking there would be some good in vedika. Huh.

Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom

Divorce is not always mutual...same goes for abandonment....What if one of the spouse doesn't want to live in marriage or live with spouse?...he/she want to divorce his/her husband for whatever reasons....can the other one who doesn't want divorce compel his/her spouse not to take divorce?....according to law he/she can't...staying in a marriage or not, remarrying, divorcing is not always a couple's decision...it can be an individual's decision

Agree divorces are not always mutual and same goes for abandonment.It can be an individual's decision . Lekin aise achanak gayab ho jana 5 saal ke liye yeh kya tha??????? Kitne real life cases mai aise log bina bataye gayab ho jate hai????Kya aise bina bataye gayab ho jana aap ko sahi lagta hai??!!!! Kya aap kisi ko personally yeh advice dena chahoge ki it can be an individual's decision so individual ka aise achanak 5 saal tak gayab ho jana galat nai hota so sabko gayab ho jana chahiye aise situation mai?!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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When I said she was right?...In more than abandoning them she was wrong in deciding for Kartik and Kairav...infact she was exceedingly wrong...but even after being exceedingly wrong she can't be compared with Vedika....If Naira is wrong...Kartik is also wrong till now...as what he said on Janmashtmi "I can't let YOU go Naira"....than him keep reminding her "tomorrow is teej"...also expected her to observe fast for him...he wanted his ex-wife to observe fast for him...he had no communication with Vedika regarding where their relationship stands...he let Vedika and Naira both fast for him...though Vedika's fast broke...but he let her fast for him at first place...he didn't told her that she need not do such rituals as their marriage is meaningless...he let two women observe fast for him at the same time!...now he is not concerned about Naira leaving him...but is only concerned about Kairav leaving from GV....or that's what he is going to imply by his statement...He want Kairav only...he is not going to let go of his zimedari...otherwise regardless of anything...he would be honest with her regarding his feelings....also previously he said I can't let you go Naira instead of saying I can't let Kairav go...aren't the two statements different?...we don't really know what Naira is going to do in future....or what Kartik is going to do in future...as they keep contradicting with their own selves....Naira is wrong...but than if she is bhagori than Kartik is also a two timer...Vedika the most pathetic character ever written on ITV can't be compared with Naira...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom

When I said she was right?...In more than abandoning them she was wrong in deciding for Kartik and Kairav...infact she was exceedingly wrong...but even after being exceedingly wrong she can't be compared with Vedika....If Naira is wrong...Kartik is also wrong till now...as what he said on Janmashtmi "I can't let YOU go Naira"....than him keep reminding her "tomorrow is teej"...also expected her to observe fast for him...he wanted his ex-wife to observe fast for him...he had no communication with Vedika regarding where their relationship stands...he let Vedika and Naira both fast for him...though Vedika's fast broke...but he let her fast for him at first place...he didn't told her that she need not do such rituals as their marriage is meaningless...he let two women observe fast for him at the same time!...now he is not concerned about Naira leaving him...but is only concerned about Kairav leaving from GV....or that's what he is going to imply by his statement...He want Kairav only...he is not going to let go of his zimedari...otherwise regardless of anything...he would be honest with her regarding his feelings....also previously he said I can't let you go Naira instead of saying I can't let Kairav go...aren't the two statements different?...we don't really know what Naira is going to do in future....or what Kartik is going to do in future...as they keep contradicting with their own selves....Naira is wrong...but than if she is bhagori than Kartik is also a two timer...Vedika the most pathetic character ever written on ITV can't be compared with Naira...

Arey yaar kartik is two timer yeh to mai apne every post mai likhti hu. Iss post mai same baat nai likha because my focus was on gayab ho jana sahi tha ki galat. Maine kab kaha ki kartik saint aadmi hai. Sabko pata hai woh to double dholki hai he. Ek bhagaudi hai dusra 2 timer hai or tisri selfish hai yeh stand to mera kafi time se hai . Abhi iss post mai kartik ke 2 timing vala point likhna reh gaya.

Pathetic ka mera point of view thoda alag hai. Jaise abhi chipakali selfishness dikha rai hai waise kartik bhi baccha chori karne ke time par selfish husband he tha . Naira ne bhi ek level par selfishness dikhaya hai sabko andhere mai rakh kar . Muje kartik / naira history dekh kar zyada pathetic lagte hai.

Ek par baccha chori ka case hona chahiye or dusri par logo ko 5 saal andhere mai rakhne ka / dhokha dhadi ka case hona chahiye. Dono ki criminal history hai he . Chipkali ki selfishness in dono ki criminal history ke aage tiny lagti hai.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Arey yaar kartik is two timer yeh to mai apne every post mai likhti hu. Iss post mai same baat nai likha because my focus was on gayab ho jana sahi tha ki galat. Maine kab kaha ki kartik saint aadmi hai. Sabko pata hai woh to double dholki hai he. Ek bhagaudi hai dusra 2 timer hai or tisri selfish hai yeh stand to mera kafi time se hai . Abhi iss post mai kartik ke 2 timing vala point likhna reh gaya.

Pathetic ka mera point of view thoda alag hai. Jaise abhi chipakali selfishness dikha rai hai waise kartik bhi baccha chori karne ke time par selfish husband he tha . Naira ne bhi ek level par selfishness dikhaya hai sabko andhere mai rakh kar . Muje kartik / naira history dekh kar zyada pathetic lagte hai.

Ek par baccha chori ka case hona chahiye or dusri par logo ko 5 saal andhere mai rakhne ka / dhokha dhadi ka case hona chahiye. Dono ki criminal history hai he . Chipkali ki selfishness in dono ki criminal history ke aage tiny lagti hai.

My perspective regarding Vedika is...she is not merely selfish...but is highly manipulative and most of all dual faced...she is not what she tries to portray herself infront of all...I dislike dual faced people...her love and respect for the people who have given her respect, love and shelter is restricted to them favoring her over Naira....she want Naira's place that's it...in everyone's life...she can't control Suwarna's attachment towards Naira...its Suwarna's choice if she wants to call Naira her daughter...also Suwarna is polite towards Vedika too...her comparing herself with Naira is dumb and stupid...she doesn't know Naira's history with Goenkas...Suwarna was the only one who use to think Naira will return one day...yet Vedika believed that Suwarna will give Naira's place to Vedika?...if she wants Naira's place than talk to them all...vent out her frustration infront of Goenkas...she doesn't have even 1% courage to do so....she can only vent out her frustration infront of the person she hates...yes she hates Naira...if even once Devika shows her real face infront of Kartik and Goenkas...she will also get to see their true selves...

Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom

My perspective regarding Vedika is...she is not merely selfish...but is highly manipulative and most of all dual faced...she is not what she tries to portray herself infront of all...I dislike dual faced people...her love and respect for the people who have given her respect, love and shelter is restricted to them favoring her over Naira....she want Naira's place that's it...in everyone's life...she can't control Suwarna's attachment towards Naira...its Suwarna's choice if she wants to call Naira her daughter...also Suwarna is polite towards Vedika too...her comparing herself with Naira is dumb and stupid...she doesn't know Naira's history with Goenkas...Suwarna was the only one who use to think Naira will return one day...yet Vedika believed that Suwarna will give Naira's place to Vedika?...if she wants Naira's place than talk to them all...vent out her frustration infront of Goenkas...she doesn't have even 1% courage to do so....she can only vent out her frustration infront of the person she hates...yes she hates Naira...if even once Devika shows her real face infront of Kartik and Goenkas...she will also get to see their true selves...

Agree with your point .Vedika is manipulative and double faced. As no one knows what vedika is asking naira to do. Vedika is doing her tactics when she is alone with naira and naira is not informing to anyone about vedika's this side.

In this situation,there are only 2 options .Either naira inform everyone about vedika's tactics or she shut vedika's mouth with saying " she should vent out her frustration in front of her in laws and her husband ".

But here naira is doing same mistake. She is hiding vedika's tactics from kartik and also she is not telling vedika firmly to vent out her frustration in front of her in laws and on her so called husband kartik.Why can't she inform kartik about this? She is again creating mess.

I really dislike naira because of her stupid/immature acts. It was better to inform kartik about vedika's tactics but she choose to file custody case against kartik. Kitna immature hai yeh aurat!!!!😡

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