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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: cocololo123

Well written always_a_TV_fan( sorry dont know your real name). I have a very love hate relationship with Adi. I honestly feel bad for this kid most of the time. Its not easy growing up in a broken home. I always say Adi got the worst end of the divorce. Ruhi was safe because Shagun did not want her. Adi doesn't know what love is. A true parental love. He thinks Shagun loves him but the truth is that she is only using him for her own selfish needs. With Ruhi she had her grandparents and aunts and uncles that loved her when Raman couldn't show his love. But for Adi he has only seen revenge and materialistic love. He was also send away to boarding school so he hasn't seen a family dynamic. When this track started I felt really bad for him because no kid should have to deal with their parents problems. But has the track kept going some of Adi's actions made me hate him and it was really hard for me to connect to the character. Yes he has problems and issues but I think the CVs could have done some stuff without. The the wrong medication story. That was really hard to digest. Adi needs serious help and NONE OF THE ADULTS in his life are helping him at all. I am not going to say more because you have beautiful written it in your post.


Hey... you can call me Lucky 😳

Thank You for commenting... You have made another good point about Adi not understanding family dynamics because of being in a boarding school for long!

@bold - exactly.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52
Thank You 😳 First things first... I hope you are well AND I have done some of my best ranting high on codeine for my back pain, so I found your post sensible 😆

My comments in bold

Originally posted by: SurrealFantasy

I agree with you on most major points - the main being that Adi is the collateral damage that happened as a result of Raman and Shagun's divorce. He has been continuously used and manipulated by his mother, molly coddled and obsessed over by his father and the stability in his life is akin to a feather in a hurricane.

I said this in an earlier post before - Raman is not blinded by his love for his son, but rather by this pursuit of a complete family picture that he has in his head. Or else he wouldn't know right from wrong. Here though, he does - he just chooses to do nothing about it.

At the end of the day, be it respect to his circumstances, or his upbringing, Adi has become a juvenile delinquent - he has accused his father of torture, his step mother of child abuse and then negligence and been guilty of running over a woman. So, what I find odd is that even when they go to a counselor, they seek help with his bed wetting problems but not the criminal elements that have taken root in his brain?

From what I have seen, at least in my school, in case of children, parents are asked of the child's history before counseling sessions - have Shagun and Raman forgotten to address these issues? >> The counselor was a joke. Even without a degree, I would have first asked the parents about their history and if there have been any past incidents that would be relevant to his mental health. seriously, and even without knowing any of the child's history, she asked them to behave like a happy family. She didnt bother to enquire about Adi's relations with other members of his family, most importantly his little sister. 😕

I read on a post the other day (refused to comment because it was already becoming controversial) that as a 12 year old who hates his step mother and is being fed poison by his mother, it is just for Adi to do things like he is. That is where I take a stand - a twelve year may throw tantrums and do lots of things, but at the end of the day, the moment he starts playing mind games and refuses to find any guilt in not just harming other people but even himself, he crosses the line between a traumatized child to a juvenile kid with serious issues. >> I think everyone thought 'love' could cure him like it helped Ruhi!

The major blame of this rightly falls on Shagun. Raman and Ishita handle the situations wrongly while they set out to do the right things and I agree, it causes more problems than solving them. The actual mother on the other hand, knows all his issues and instead of solving those, chooses to use them to her advantage.

As of right now, only Mihir knows how to handle the child because he doesn't just need a "family" but also a strict hand that can absolve him of the seriously demented thoughts planted by his vicious mother in his head. And yes, twelve years of poison will take a long time to become non existent - however, the moment Adi grows a guilty conscience, I'd believe that his redemption is possible. Right now, he is acting like a stereotypical villain - which however despicable it may sound, makes me dislike him intensely. I keep searching for the child in him to empathize with, but his characterization leaves much to be desired. >> You know, till about a few episodes ago, I thought they'd show Adi the mirror. They'd show him what he has been missing in his life. He'd see Ruhi and learn how to be a child again... then things took a turn for the worst. He's put TV Saas-Nanads to shame.

I'm not sure how much sense this extremely long rant makes, but I am on pain meds ATM, so let's blame it on that.😳😆





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Posted: 10 years ago
#53
Thank You Mera 😊

I was impressed by how they handled him at the end of the Accident track. Once Raman was out of his majboor mode, they actually reprimanded Adi. Instead of hiding the fact that their ghar ka chiraag did something bad and forgiving him easily, they actually took him to court! NOT that it did anyone any good though 😆

someone should connect the dots and realise that his behaviour is just getting worse and worse. The Amma-accident was an accident, but what he is doing here, is well, really borderline psychotic. Neither love nor punishment nor abandonment can save him. He needs a professional to help him!

and I liked this point you made too 😳

In her zest to make Raman happy and bring Adi closer to him, Ishita has become an enabler of Raman's behavior too.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#54
What did I ever do to you? 😡 Thank the Lord you are on phone, PC pe hoti, toh aur hazaar words likh deti 😆

my comments in bold


Originally posted by: Asclepius


Lol! Abhi toh aur mehnat karani hai tumse!


@bold Sry I was abt to write unaware.. It became aware lol! >> it did put me off-track for a bit😛

Ishita is very lucky to hv a kid like ruhi.. Ruhi is a good child ..ishita ke haath bas bana banaya pakwaan mil gaya lol! No effort nothing!

Regarding adi.. Even adi wants love.. In one episode he was shown thinking.. Mera kaun hai.. Mom ashok uncle ke baare mei sochti rehti hai dad ruhi aur ishita ke baarein mei!
Even he wants a perfect family like ruhi n shravan! Whenever he sees bala n shravan adi feels bad!

Maybe at that tym if someone would hv explained to adi that he has parents who will always support him n love him but he has to accept that they cant be together ..then situation would hv been different.


See yes no parent has experience from before!

So ishita comparing adi with ruhi n shravan.. N treating him accordingly is not acceptable for me!

all problem started with that anniversary party!
Now adi thinks that shagun raman can be back together! And on top of that ishita listens to his demands..>> I agree. The CVs have disappointed us before, but this may actually be the lowest point. The anniversary party I mean. Highly out of character for EVERYONE in the Bhalla family. The only one who was in character perhaps was Shagun ...
To understand this ishita need not be a,great parent.. Anyone with little common sense would realise that! >> I can chalk up her earlier acts too, but the fact that she is not mentioning Adi's direct threats to anyone, THAT scares me. Even if she thought none of the Bhallas would understand Adi's nature or EVEN if she thought no one would believe her, she should have discussed it with Bala. He is the one positive influence in Adi's life. I absolutely dont like it that Bala isnt being involved in this track at all and he's not even going to be in the Lohri/Pongal celebration!

If she cant handle atleast she should share the facts with raman! There she did a mistake as we discussed..n actually a big one according to me!


Parenting is a hard task and it is the responsibility of both parents. Ideally children try to ape what their parents do. Adi is an example of miserable upbringing by shagun n ashok!


Yes regarding raman I completely agree!

Even I wanted to say the same..that's why I said Now raman doesn't want adi to go away from him...so he is kinda deliberately ignoring adi evil intentions or say raman doesn't want to face the reality.. He scared now!

But once he is out of that adi moh maya he will make adi accept the reality !
Only thing is he has to work alone in this matter! Becoz even though ishita knows reality but doesn't want to share with raman ulta creating more mess!

To some extent I can understand raman confusion!

But whatever ishita did till now I hv no explanation or justification for that! Let it be anniversary party or hiding things from raman!
Once raman will know that adi took medicine on his own to trouble ishita., that will be like big jolt for raman...big concern for any parent! A normal child never takes such drastic step...its an serious issue for any parent!

N adi needs medical help as well as good environment to become a good person :)

Enjoyed discussion with u! 😊 >> maine bhi enjoy kiya 😛

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Posted: 10 years ago
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😆Res
P.s My pc is not working today.. And difficult to write EW in mobile..😆


Edited by mayu1982 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think one thing to be taken away from your post and this entire track is that every single adults in adi's life has failed him. No one in that house has The skills to handle adi and in his pursuit for his son's love, raman has only enabled him further.
I understand why initially ishita thought adi and ruhi's cases are similar, it is hard to imagine a child so disturbed and mentally unstable. Now ishita knows how dark adi has become after the step mother story and medicine incident. She should have brought it to raman's attention immediately but for some reason, she chose to stay quiet and not take any action. that is what is bothering me, it is like ishita is not understanding that adi needs serious psychiatric intervention. Just love and care won't work anymore. Raman knows how problematic adi's behaviour is but I don't he will realize that his son is borderline psychotic unless ishita gives him the bigger picture. like you said, adi's problems are 12 years in the making, and love and care won't undo all the damage done to him. This entire problem is out of their hands now and so much power in a narcissistic tween's hands are dangerous, if this continues then adi will grow up to be a criminal.

Raman...as much as I feel for him and see where he is coming from, I think enough is enough. He needs to wake up and be the parent adi needs, just moping and feeling sorry for his awful situation won't make adi better. the problem is that not only is adi unstable but he also knows how weak the entire family is. He has no respect for ishita, and the rest are just the puppets in his hands. in a scenario like that, every child-- spoilt or not, will run wild. you can never give children the upper hand, especially in the matters of boundaries and discipline.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Loved the original post and all the comments. My humble solution to the Adi virus is:

I would buy Raman a CD that rants "Ishita ke liye" which might eventually replace his brain engraved rant "Adi ke liye"

I would have Ishita hypnotized and have the words "Adi" and "Shagun" removed from her memory

I would buy a huge lantern for Toshi that says Ghar ka Chiraag

I would have the same psychiatrist hypnotize Shagun into believing Raman is her baby brother

I would send Adi for a vigorous cleansing under the Niagara Falls using Ruhi brand soap

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: suresh555

Loved the original post and all the comments. My humble solution to the Adi virus is:

I would buy Raman a CD that rants "Ishita ke liye" which might eventually replace his brain engraved rant "Adi ke liye"

I would have Ishita hypnotized and have the words "Adi" and "Shagun" removed from her memory

I would buy a huge lantern for Toshi that says Ghar ka Chiraag

I would have the same psychiatrist hypnotize Shagun into believing Raman is her baby brother

I would send Adi for a vigorous cleansing under the Niagara Falls using Ruhi brand soap


🤣 Awesome solutions 😆👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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oops... I almost forgot to reply

Thanks Monal 😳 for such a detailed reply. I highlighted the points I liked very much ... in bold

Originally posted by: MonalSingh

Good post and an apt one too. I fully agree with you that Adi is totally out of control now, he needs real professional help. No miracle or selfless love can cure him now.

As people say, it takes a combined effort to fail a child, same thing happened for Adi as well. He is a 12 year old kid who spent last 6 years of his life definitely not as a "kid". Needless to say, his mind was poisoned by his mother from the day their parents got separated and before that he was taught and lured to materialistic things, terming them as the only needful ones. Later his mother and Ashok dad sometimes intentionally and sometimes unintentionally showed him how to plan and plot to get the things that are needed no matter what. Unfortunately, he learnt those tricks at a age that would stick to his mind for the rest of his life. Hence "overnight" change is impossible, even months of care, love and concern won't change him either.

Since Raman and Ishita want to be his parents, their actions need to discussed elaborately. Raman loves him to the core and as an estranged father, it's quite natural. Previously, he was obsessed for his son's recognition, acceptance and company. But the accident track changed him and he himself realized that his obsession wouldn't do any good to his son in the long run. And since then he didn't give in to any of his wicked demands and that's a remarkable progress from him. Raman made it very clear to Adi that he wouldn't be there to save him if he commits any crime, rather he would be the first one to hand him over to the law enforcement authority. Yes, Raman still yearns for his son and sometimes it goes overboard as well but the old Raman who would do anything for his son at the drop of a hat is long gone.

I liked the Ishita who strictly grounded Adi when he made an illogical demand back in June, I guess. Adi needed that avatar of Ishita from day one since he stepped in to Bhalla house, a combination of love, care and strictness. One might argue that if she did so, Bhallas would have taken it wrongly and scolded her. But if she had taken all of them into her confidence from the very beginning, things could have been much different; specially when everyone wanted Ishita to be his mother. Now It's too late and she is caught between situations dug by herself but one would feel sorry for her too. I think she also wanted Adi's acceptance just like Raman did and there she faltered. She advised Adi's counseling for urinary incontinence, then she also should have advised for some professional help to reform his erratic behavior as she's the one who knew the real intention of Adi till now. But as she's expecting his acceptance, she's left it to kismet.

Raman and Ishita's mutual decision of making Ishita as Adi's mother perhaps worsened the situation most. Even if he needed a mother, the timing was not correct. One can't be a mother of a kid in a day or months and it's next to impossible when the person is a stepmother whom the kid loathes. Besides, unlike Ruhi, Adi has his own mother. Just because his mother is evil, he wouldn't discard her someday.

Yes, Adi needs a loving and supportive atmosphere and IshRa should work on that but as you rightly said nothing will work unless he gets real professional help asap. He will only get to realize the love, care and concerns of IshRa once he sees them from a different angle and to achieve that, he needs a proper professional help from a third party.

Sorry for the long essay...😛😆 >> no worries... i have patience 😛

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brilliant post Lucky !
Seeing Aditya, I never felt it was HIM because a child IS a child anyways who needs attention of his father AND mother BOTH. If one lacks, there are always negative consequences of it to bear with n that is what we are seeing nowadays in form of Aditya, initially a child of a self-centered woman and a lost father BUT who got influenced by various transitions in the environment around.

PS was a must :)

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