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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Today Remya and I got into a little discussion too - as per her Ishu has never asked Raman about things because she is scared that she may hear he still loves Shagun - which isnt the case for me...the thing is as per me the this track is about opening up, talking - which is what even Mihir said today - Thank you Mihir I could hug you for this... but it is about Raman getting over his insecurity the most, it is about him STOPPING the comparision he inevitably draws between the two women in his life that he married - an ex and a present...he has to let go off the past completely - have his closure to do the trick and live in his present for it and his and Ishita' future...when he starts to appreciate Ishita for who she is all by herself, show her he cares with gestures that come from his heart - Happy' heart - he would win the war

Remya mentioned how on Varahlakshmi he narrated Shagun never could keep the KC fast for him - he asked her not to do this drama for him - she was measured with the same yardstick as his ex...so no matter what she does she ends up being compared to Shagun? even the dances that they had when he called her light to Shagun' darkness - yes he appreciated her - BUT comparing her with Shagun...do you want to be appreciated or loved by comparision or because of who you are? When she kept a fast for him - he expected her to do what Shagun did, he has been unable to let go of the comparisions, yes he is seeing the good here but does that mean it doesnt get to her? Of course it must. It makes her feel she would always be measured no matter what she does and on that scale she thinks she would loose not only because she came second but because she cant claim one thing which Shagun always can and will - the fact she has kids with Raman which she never would be able to give him...yes she is possessive about him now that much is true which is why Sanjana rattled her. But I think while Raman has stopped SEEING Shagun in Ruhi, he hasnt stopped comparisions. Even this thing - he is measuring her against Shagun which is where Mihir' lines come into play - Kaach and Heera -they may look similar, we could be under the illusion at times regarding them but that doesnt mean they are interchangeable


Aani.. The second part of your post I so agree.. At every stage whatever Ishita does he has always compared her with shagun... I have always felt she should atleast let him know this talk back.. But she is telly land bahu she won't... But I think this is all going to figure in the final showdown... I am not sure if ppl ll agree.. But it took shagun recounting her romantic moments with rkb for Raman to realize that Ishita may need that reassurance ...

Remember we had discussed how the lack of follow up scenes is a problem... Its all just to build up drama that's evident... I had hoped this would have been a bit diff..but that's not to be..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Anku-


That's really far away, don't think this track was meant to be long running. It has to end with the Romi Sarika track 😆



Hehe I know.. kidding yaar.. 😉 secretly can't wait to see the confession every single day
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Posted: 11 years ago
Ok I really gotta go now.. 3.30 here 😲 I'm slowly getting crazy...
Thank you everyone and specially Ruby for all the posts and discussion..😊

Goodnight and once again a very Happy Diwali to all of you 🤗

Much love
Bhuvana
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Posted: 11 years ago
Okay peeps ..
this is one post .. all of us must read .. its brilliant it throws light on the character who is right in the middle of this storm MANI

read this ... its by DAY DREAMERS .. & it will rock u & make u think


http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4201472

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: janu12345


Aani.. The second part of your post I so agree.. At every stage whatever Ishita does he has always compared her with shagun... I have always felt she should atleast let him know this talk back.. But she is telly land bahu she won't... But I think this is all going to figure in the final showdown... I am not sure if ppl ll agree.. But it took shagun recounting her romantic moments with rkb for Raman to realize that Ishita may need that reassurance ...

Remember we had discussed how the lack of follow up scenes is a problem... Its all just to build up drama that's evident... I had hoped this would have been a bit diff..but that's not to be..


Janu I agree she is telly land bahu so things will fester for a whlie but then she is also shown as volcanic - when she erupts even the mighty Bhalla shuts up.

This thing will be not veiled under Ruhi ke liye, this fight will be between a husband and wife...and remember the last time the wife in her roared a head? She said she is his wife, what is his is half hers...but most importantly she said I know when to fight my battles when it comes to my rights..he had shut up, he had so completely not seen this coming from her...she asked him - how can he call things as solely his - what is his is hers - she is half the owner of all that belongs to him...now when things come to an explosive showdown - do you think the wife will be mum? 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1

It was a stormy night ... rains lashed at each & every surface ... they were drenched to the skin ... there was a storm like weather which was brewing .. the rain was so heavy that visibility was poor ... but in that storm .. they saw each other clearly ...

She saw the man ... Who would hold .. when she fell ...

She had fallen & he supported & held her

He saw the woman ... the one woman who had the courage to speak the truth in a relation where TRUTH mattered most .. as it was a PAVITRA RISHTA ...

He says .. why did u speak the truth? in such matters people normally prevaricate .. normally lie ..

She says .. without a CAUSE OR REASON .. I DO NOT LIE .. not to him not to anyone ...

CUT TO ..

Festivities adorn every inch of space .. it was the coming together of two people who had rejected the thot of ever being with someone ... two broken half individuals came together to be tied in a scared bond ... of matrimony ...

She stood in front of the entire CONGREGATION .. a congregation which comprised of her family .. her new family .. her friends her relatives & THE MAN SHE WAS TO BE MARRIED TO ..

AT FIRST She said ... I WILL NOT MARRY ...

He said ... how can anyone marry me after they have heard this heinous one sided story ...

THEN She said ... I WILL MARRY U .. I WILL MARRY U TO SAVE RUHI

That day she had LIED .. she had lied ... because it was to SAVE RUHI .. the one person whom she loved totally ... did she have cause to lie .. YES SHE DID .. cause had she not lied that day .. SHAGUN would've come out with another road block to derail the happiness of RUHI ..

RUHI BHALLA .. the child who kindled love in a heart which was barren of love ..the child who re taught this woman love .. the child for whose love .. this woman was willing to write off her life ...

YES SHE LIED THAT DAY ... she lied to save her love .. she lied for the one who she loved ... YES SHE LIED ...

CUT TO ...

It was a glittering function .. every one of their family member was gathered in a beautifully decorated ball room ... dancing & gaiety filled the air ... laughter & fun resounded in the atmosphere

When a shadow from the past stepped forth .. & cast aspersions on his present ..

he showed the past its place ... he showed the past how fractured how crippled of thot it was .. he showed the past its true place ...

He said ... to understand brightness one would need to see DARK ... every task that his past had left INCOMPLTETE .. there would be one WOMAN .. who would COMPLETE ...

There would be ONE WOMAN who would COMPLETE HIM ... he walked the 2.5 steps .. & brought forth the woman WHO WAS THE OTHER HALF OF HIS WHOLE .. his wife ISHITA BHALLA ...

CUT ...

I have written atleast 3 posts & have in numerous posts & discussions written about this .. this story is written in the format of ISHITA & SHAGUN as a comparo

Here are two women .. who lied .. yes both of them changed names on their phones to hide something .. both of them .. were clandestinely meeting with someone as a means to an end .. both of them were lying to him ...

But the difference is ...

One did it for personal gain .

One is doing it for HIM ...

Just a thot & a kostin here .. is this is a moral science story .. or is this a tale of 2 lovers struggling with their past demons to be ONE WITH EACH OTHER ...

Before I go on .. let me categorically say .. to me the levity portrayed by ISHITA while she is lying is totally WRONG .. yes the lying is justified .. but there shud've been a moment of hesitation or reflection that she was tricking the man she LOVED & was MARRIED TO ... but that's one MISTAKE .. can I look beyond it .. YES I CAN ... does it impact the story >> NO it does not .. Does it compromise on ISHITA the character YES IT DOES .. but it's a redeemable flaw ...

She Ishita has shown that for a loved one she can Lie .. she has said if I don't have a reason I wont lie ... does she have a reason YES SHE DOES ..

Her husband is devastated by the disgusting & immature act of his brother ... her husband is caught in between a 3 party fight .. TOSHI, ISHITA & Romi .. on the Sarika issue ..

Today she comes to know .. the ROMI episode while is breaking & destroying the peace in her family .. its also destroying & damaging her HUSBANDS career ..

The man is at the pinnacle of his achievement he is been made ASIAN BUSINESS GUILD HEAD ... this was a time for him to celebrate .. but he would now have to struggle not only to hold the position .. but the long reaching impact to his career once the press came to know of this ... the impact would be debilating ...

Just recently when he had fought for her license .. the media had buried him .. once again Ashok Khanna had played them to his tune .. by manipulating the system .. at that time .. he had blackmailed Raman with Ishita's license .. this time clearly he would use Sarika & ROMI to make RAMAN STEP DOWN ...

AND Step down RAMAN would .. cause how much ever he would smash Romi in the 4 walls of the house he would stand tall to save him outside ... he would stand tall to protect the girl who had helped him save his wife's dignity .. he would not bother about the cost to himself before he sacrificed for his family ... & Sarika was carrying a part of his family in her WOMB ...

Its this woman .. this WIFE .. this LOVE .. who solicits help from MANI .. & asks him to keep quiet about the same to RAMAN .. cause the moment Raman would come to know .. the game would be out .. Ashok Khanna would strike & then the matter would be OUT IN PUBLIC .. making it that much more difficult to salvage .

Here was a woman who LIED .. but she lied to PROTECT THE ONE SHE LOVED ... brings u right back to the marriage episode .. once before she had lied .. lied for days together .. to keep the one who she loved SAFE ... that time it was RUHI .. this time it is RUHI ke papa ..

That time it gave birth to SIRF RUHI KE LIYE .. this time it will be about SIRF RAMAN KE LIYE .. rather SIRF HUMARE LIYE ...

Raman Kumar Bhalla .. the man was delivered a mortal wound ..when he was left rejected & abandoned .. a man who was a victim of adultery ... was once again at the precipice of facing the same fate.. this time the blow would be even tougher to take ... cause his broken heart with a lot of trouble had begun to HOPE ... today not only the heart is hurt .. it's the HOPE which is BRUISED .. which lies strangled .. gasping for breath ...

Raman Kumar Bhalla a man who suffers from REJECTION , INSECURITY & ABANDONMENT ...

In my Saturdays post I had written about how this man had REJECTED His daughter for 6 years when he went to lick his wounds ...

When he came back .. was it easy for him to embrace .. no .. cause on the first day of having his daughter back .. he was introduced to a DOUBT ... Ruhi might not be his ...

Now connect this to the current track ...on the first day he was ready to show the world he loved his wife .. a doubt was introduced in his mind ... ISHITA was LYING TO HIM ... was RUHI his .. ofcourse .. is ISHITA his OFCOURSE ...

Have written time & time again to understand this track one must know the characterizations of the leads down pat ...

Raman Kumar Bhalla the most complex character in YHM .. he is a reject .. so he rejects before he can be rejected ..

he is Insecure . so he lacks the courage to face his fears .. lest they come true

he is abandoned which makes him possessive .. because of which he rejects what is not his ..,.. cause to embrace will mean he will NEVER LET GO ...

This is the man who is at a cross roads one which he never wanted to be in .. what will he do if what he believes to be true .. that Ishita is lying to him & meeting with Mani clandestinely ... what will he do if the same is TRUE ...

It's a firm war between the heart & the mind .. & the mind is winning as off now in this struggle .. & tonite the mind will shut the heart completely ...

Have written a lot of times .. with the new time band the tracks will echo what was shown in the beginning of YHM & this one will also be similar ..



You are right Ruby, Ishita lied because she had to. She hesitated for a second when she sees him at the door as soon as she finish her conversation with Mani. Now a Deja Vu - same thing happened when he shows up at the door while she was trying a bracelet for him on Mani's hand. Again she lied, and she said it tooo why - he came up suddenly and she was worried her surprise might be ruined for HIM and so she makes up the first excuse in her mind.


Here too, she uses the first excuse, emergency call - which was only so as she can help in securing his post else as soon as he would know about it, he would give it up. For Romi, for his family and Ishita knew it.


Now for someone who loved her career and dentistry is passion (98.5%)😆, she cancels everything for a whole day, why? - For Raman. Wasn't she told they have only two days to try everything they can to stop Ashok's plan.


So Ishita even goes to call her friend at 11 pm, she's that desperate about him, for his well being - the urgency to make sure her husband's reputation and post is secured.




Today's epi, loved it to its core. There was Romi being encouraged to accept his mistakes, and take up his responsibilities - something he never did until pressurized. Here, he was shown a way for every dead end that HE feared.

There was the ultimate communication gap's solution. Mihir and Raman scene was a very important one for this track. Kudos to the writer.



Ishita being worried for her husband, what she believes is he is worried for Romi, his family and his business.And tells her MIL to talk to him as her words won't have any effect on him.
It doesn't even cross her mind that it could be for her - this woman doesn't even think that she could be the center of anyone's thoughts.
When she felt Raman was happy, he was smiling more and she questions herself, and comes to the only conclusion : Raman toh shagun se pyaar karte hain. Why? Because, she feels she isn't worth of it, it cannot be her. She faced so many bitter rejections, that she believes it as the ultimate truth of her life.



Raman comes back home and you see him searching for someone, let me add, desperately enough. And what he says? where is Ruhi - his shield to hide his feelings atm. When we all know who he is really looking for. He wants to meet Ishita and talk, so as to clear every misundertsanding. I love that scene, he could not even stand at one place for more than a few seconds, showed his desperation to shut up his doubt.



But now the infamous scene Ishita saying ILU to Mani unfolds in front of him. So for one second let us just assume Raman was not there, would we look at it the same way as we are right now??




Ishita did not know Raman was there. For her it's a light, excited and happy moment with her friend, that friend who she calls her saviour- for he helped her ensure that only Raman will be the head. I dunno about others but I say I love you every time am too happy with a friend or relative, that's on the level of comfort we share, does every I love you mean only the romantic I love you? Nope. Mani, in the heat of the moment, jokes along that leave your husband and marry me, and she is a sport and acts along.
But that part is seen by Raman, that Raman who was already fighting his -once-again-emerging- broken self due to a doubt.




This scene is not complete so I'll wait for tomorrow, but am sure it's going to be dramatic. In the precap, Raman is I guess in the same clothes, and Ishita Mani are in different, so another day gone by. The next will be the announcement for Asia Guild Head. DT's insta pics suggests it to be a party for the same.

Edited by Liashna - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1



AANI UNCANNY ...

I AM GONNA SEND U THE POST I had written for today .. i have written most of these points ..
the rick one .. then the dance one ..

😆


*hi5* yep this is all gonna add up now
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: luvsagar

Aani, Anku, Ruby

I LOVE reading your guys posts they always provide a positive POV and are bang on and inspiring to delve deeper into the characters and the show itself!
Thank you!!🤗
And Me too positive but sometimes get hung up on certain things shown for dramatic effect!!!
Nina


thanks Nina 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -IshRaDivAn-

Like everyone has already said..
The positivity on this thread always amazes me.!! Its truly BRILLIANT.. ⭐️
Keep it up guys.. A tight hug to all of you..🤗 ,

Aani, Ruby, Anku..you guys are just too good for words.! Your posts and your in depth analysis of the characters, story line, writers and everything.. HATS OFF.!! I would have said it for all, but I don't know many names here..so my post of THANK YOU is for everyone.! 😳



Thanks Anu 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ redwine and daydreamers..
muahhh to both of you..

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