raman's insult was too much?

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Rutu the question you have raised is a wonderful one but honestly I dont think it was too much not because I dislike Ashok but because there is clearly a difference in the way Raman and Shagun say those things.

When Shagun says those its to put down Ishita - make her feel infertile and claim a superiority over her - make it seem all Ishita has - a husband and child included are her rejects - and she ought to be grateful to Shagun for having dumped them in the first place so she could get the spoils so to speak.

But Raman - he isn't making a claim of superiority over here neither is he putting down Ashok just to establish some supremacy that feeds his ego - he is just laying down facts that for Ashok to have a family of his own - this so-called one which he has with Shagun and Adi under his roof, with her as his fiance and him as son - he wrecked apart a marriage, he was the one who chose to tempt a woman, a selfish woman so that he can gain something which perhaps he biologically is impaired to create - a child of his own.

Ishita never had to steal someone' husband or child - rather the child found love, comfort and security in her when she came in her contact...the man is being drawn to her because of who she is a a person despite having a resolution that he would have nothing to do with her post marriage she would only be the mother of his child.

The fact that Raman said the words have your own child were spoken because he wants Ashok to know just by being called dad no one becomes a father - like he told Shagun in the resort - bolne se maa nahi ban jaaogi, this to a woman who has given birth to both his kids.

there is a difference in being a parent and thinking you are one - nature and nurture are as different as chalk and cheese. Shagun always thinks she is a mother whenever it suits her fancy but that doesn't make her one... just like Ashok being called dad by Adi doesn't make him a father - cos he clearly doesn't have the feelings of one nor does he know what it entails.

That was the gist of that scene - it wasn't a veiled insult as it was an eyeopener in that regard.

Originally posted by: Autumn.

So far in the show Ashok has not shown having medical condition where in he cannot father a child whereas Ishita has been shown that she cannot conceive medically. That entirely changes the situation. So it cannot be a taunt from Raman regarding any medical condition of Ashok.