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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: appuss

first born - this is just Blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just to keep the story going and keeping shagun in focus...

every child is special, like they say - your left eye is as important as your right...
if u cant love your 2nd child like first, u have no right to give birth to a 2nd...it is because every child deserves equal love and affection


It's because we got both the eyes together😆😆
Well m not a mother but my first cell is always precious to me but doesn't mean second is not😉
A child is a child and in that sense ADi will be special to him
Doesn't change anything
A real dad will do what Raman is doing
He is craving for his Son's love that's it and it's justifiable

P.S: My POV 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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the argument Raman gives in his favour for having a soft corner for Adi more than Ruhi is that when Adi was born he was head over heels in love with shagun and everything was perfect between them and at the time of Ruhi's birth things were totally different- his relation with shagun was over.
i dont understand his argument. his relation with shagun might have been over but ruhi was not the reason for that. how can parent love one kid more than the other?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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even I don't understand the theory of first born...second born...
but one thing I will assure...when I have kids in future...I will equally treat both my kids...I will equally love them...pamper them...spoil them like silly...give them what they desires equally...educate them manners and respect to all age group equally...

I will want my future husband do the same too...

kids are kids regardless they are first born...second born...and so on...just becos first born is precious that doesn't mean I neglect the second born...or fail to give the same dignity of my first born to my second and third born...no matter what circumstances my marriage is when my second and third born comes into the world

they are my kids...my blood...my flesh...they give me the pleasure and happiness of being a mother...i EQUALLY love them

there is no such thing as first born is precious in my dictionary...my love for all my kids is the same...

when my kids grow up...i don't want them to question my love for them...i don't want them to tell me what i have done for them when i only set my eyes...love...pampering...obsession for my first born and neglected them...

when its abt kids...there should be a balance...they should be equal...it should not be my daughter/son is my first born...give me the happiness of being a mother/father for the first time so he/she should in pedestal while treat my 2nd and 3rd born like a normal child

where is the logic...
whether your married life is stable or not...your child either born out of love...or born when you have problems with your spouse...that doesn't mean you hold one with pedestal and you detach from the other...

kids should be shower with love equally...regardless its your first born or second born or son/daughter...its your kid...your flesh...your blood...if you go crazy for one...you have to do the same for second one too...
Edited by Mages - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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There's a difference between Adi and Ruhi, and what they represent to Raman, other than the fact that they are their kids.

Raman was MADLY in love with Shagun. You don't forget that kind of love. And Adi was a symbol of his love with Shagun. Adi was conceived out of love and happiness. Also, Adi symbolizes a time in Raman's life where everything was perfect. He had the woman of his dreams, he presumably had a good relationship with his family and work, and he had just become a father. Adi's birth was a happy time.

Ruhi on the other hand, was not conceived out of love. She was a last-dtich attempt to save their marriage. Even her birth could not save her parent's marriage, as someone pointed out, it was the last nail in the coffin. She symbolizes the breakdown of his family, a time where everything had ceased to be perfect. In the ensuing months after her birth, he lost his wife (whom he loved more than life), lost his first born child, and the relationship with his parents had soured.

I'm not saying that Adi and Ruhi, as characters and thus people, are bad. I'm just saying, that yes they are both his children, but they symbolize different times in his life.

But it is important to note, Raman loves both Adi and Ruhi. If he didn't love Ruhi, he wouldn't have married Ishita. He wouldn't have listened to Ruhi's many demands, especially in regards to the way he treats Ishita. He loves Ruhi and is super happy to be her father. Yes he did initially take her for granted, but that's cause he had her. As the saying goes, you don't know what you have until its gone. Ruhi always reminded him of the bad time in his life. It was only after he came close to losing her, he realized how much he needed her, loved her, and wanted her with him. He loves her very much.

As for Adi. Part of the reason Raman is so crazy for Adi, is because he misses his son (obviously). He's missed many moments in Adi's life. That also brings a sort of obsession. He doesn't have the same type of visible junoon for Ruhi because she is there. But Adi is not there. And Raman is always reminded of that, which fosters his intense need for Adi.

Also, there is a certain something about Adi's birth and status as the first child. As I said before, Adi is connected to Raman's good memories of life. Obviously he will miss them. And there is a certain something about being the first child. The first child is the one that makes you a parent. The first child is the one with whom you learn as you go. The first child is the one with whom your entire life transforms. I'm not denying the importance of other children or saying that the other kids (after the oldest) don't matter. They do. Each child is a blessing and a boon. But the first child is the one who transforms you initially.

Also, we as viewers don't like seeing Raman go crazy for Adi because Adi doesn't like Raman. So we don't want Raman to be that crazy for someone who doesn't appreciate him. But just put that aside and think of it from Raman's perspective. This is his child. The child that gave him such happiness from his birth. The child who he despite loving so much, cannot see him grow.

So yeah, although I'm not a big fan of how Raman is so crazy for Adi, I can see where the obsession comes from.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Never in my life I have heard people differentiate between first born and second born .I am a first born and my parents treat me the same way they treat my siblings. This first born definately iexaggerated in the serial.
I am not much concerned about Ishita as she knew about Raman before marriage but that little girl didn't have a choices. Even during separation he never forgot Adi who represents his good times with Shagun but he stayed away from Ruhi because she resembled the same women who once gave him his first kid.

Isn't Raman selfish and self centered? As a parent you cannot just think about yourself .He never noticed Ruhi until custody case and as Ishita pointed out winning Ruhi from Ashok was important.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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First child is of course the dearest one to the parents. I have seen this in my family... I'm the youngest one, but I've seen the pampering my brother used to get from my parents. When he was away from us for studies and whenever he used to visit us during vacations, my father used to be like the happiest person on Earth. 😳

Also, like many people here pointed out, Raman is away from Adi so he's missing him alot. That's totally justified... But it doesn't mean that he loves Ruhi less than Adi. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i think the main thing and most important thing to remember and why raman is like this is, becuase adi is taken from him, he hardly sees him, and that would be terrible, obviously he would feel more as his craving adi to be with him and everyone, to have his son back, he already has ruhi and her love but not adis, i dont know if you and some people actually understand the pain and need to have your whos child away from you for so long and wanting them back, only left with sweet memories of what could have been. it feels like its less about the fact he is a first born, though it may play a part, but its probz more about adi not with him under bad circumstances, so of course the focus will be more on him, his in a lot of pain over adi, lots of negative stuff as well, he loves ruhi, has her and everything is fine on that front compared to adi
i dont know, im only 19 but even i understand and can empathize with the feeling of having your child hate you and taken from you, without much contact, the way his behaving really shouldn't be that hard to understand, so i think its normal in raman situation and not strange or weird, some people here even say to just forget adi and move on, who cares, like seriously what kind of father would that make raman, not fighting for his kid and just giving him up, cause its difficult atm or like a tissue paper.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am a first born child . No. I think it's like this. All the kids are mostly loved equally but parents do have favorite child .The oldest is raised the strictest, but has the most respect. The youngest is always spoiled but loved all the same. The middle kids always have some weird kink that makes them lovable.
While parents of the first newborn are usually responsible and diligent, they are also tentative, anxious and inconsistent"and to make up for this they may be demanding, strict, and overprotective .
The moment a first child is born, the mother is also born. She never existed before,it's the same for the father .so it's special till next one comes around and after that eveyone is the same .

But Some screwed up parents are like this, but I think that just because everyone says that, others somehow believe the same thing is happening to them. It is also said that parents favor the youngest child as well, but again this is only screwed up families - they probably just need to give the baby more attention.
I hope Ruhi never hears this conversation .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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my dad is very much like rkb...
he is over possessive and keeps fighting with everyine at my home...

so will nt blame rkb...

its natural..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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after reading all the comments...I still don't understand the theory of first born and second born... 😆

I did ask mom abt first born and second born...I am second born...my still born bro is elder who died after 1 month ...I ask mom directly...if bro was alive...will she put him in a pedestal becos he is first born...he is a son...and treat me normal...she scold me and told me...who put such nonsense in my head...she told me for her and my late dad...both are equal in their eyes...they love both of us equally...I was relieved...and I kiss her with tears...

thanks RKB and YHM...its becos of them...I got a insecurity in my heart...I had to ask mom...she relieved my burden with her love
Edited by Mages - 11 years ago

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