Udariyaan | Episode Discussion Thread #85 DT Note pg:35 - Page 91

Originally posted by: Lovelydutt

Yes, absolutely if she kicked out the Fateh who had betrayed her, I would have been cheering for her. But, now after proving himself the way he has if you want her to kick out this Fateh who was the only person who stood beside her, then I honestly have nothing to say. Fateh can be never right in your eyes even if he dies for her, because you watch from a biased pov & that's fine. That's totally your opinion on that character & we have nothing to say about it. Similarly we have our opinion on certain scenes & that's fine too.

And, no you don't have to come up with explanation of the character everytime we say anything against her actions, we are watching the same show and are very much aware of her character & we like her for that. Doesn't mean we have to agree with everything she says/does. Better to just watch the show from our individual lenses and enjoy as it comes.

You do realise that the trauma lives on? Like she has not forgotten anything? Forgiveness is not forgetfulness. Why not ditch a man who has given you so much trauma and start a new life? Why be with someone who has given you way too painful memories? And they'll haunt you. She's fine with them individually, but she sees them close and it triggers her to all she saw. Why not end that thing?

He's stood besides her so she should stay... Well she did that way too many times, in way more difficult situations, against her own family too, and he still left her. He's done nothing (yes, even now), compared to all she has done for him. For once she can be selfish and move on (we're talking about character development after all.) She can realise that she does not deserve all this nonsense and make a fresh start.

Originally posted by: Padmajaan

Many times I feel that we are not watching the same show or may be you are watching it with tejo-tinted glasses.

The bolded portion - He never did this. It was all a montage by Angad and Jasmin. He never continued to sneakily meet with Jasmin. In fact he never trusted her ever after the vrat incident when he understood how much of a liar she was. And even when he was doing his EMA shit, he was never physical with J. Remember the scene when J tries her seductive stuff with aaj jaane ki zidd na karo playing in the background?

And when he told her your oft-quoted gold digger thing (btw am not sure he said exactly that, anyway that's how you always quote it), it was out of pique and insecurity as it happens often with couples in love when you say hurtful things to each other but don't mean it! Tejo has also said many such things to him and we all understood that she didn't mean it.

Anyway your way of looking at their couple is too one-sided and I guess we will never agree. Am sad about it that's all I can say.

Well yes, I do see it from Tejo's pov, and from her POV, they're meeting sneakily. Last time she ignored those in her face red flags, this time she did not. Is she supposed to act nothing when she sees her in his arms and know they spent the night together? Or see them sneakingly going out from a tent and pretends it's normal?

And how does him not getting physical with Jasmine a proof of his character? he's publicly kissing her in parties on a stage, proclaiming she's his wife and BFF, roaming around with her leaving his wife acting like a maid for his family...and you think it's better? god damn I'd hope that a guy would just f the chick and leave me alone.

"Mujhe kya pata tha ki tum bhi baaki aurton ki tarah ho jise apne liye ek chahne wala ameerzada chahiye. Are gar usi ke saath rehna tha toh bata deti na...hat jata main raste se." Is this not him calling her gold digger?

What has Tejo said which was inaccurate? Afaik, if she says something she has her reasoning behind that, still I want to know what she said.

And I doubt any woman with her character will listen to such words.Sl*t shaming, cheating, gold digger comments these comments are the utmost boundary for most women I know.

@bold Absolutely, same feelings.

Originally posted by: Bluekohl

Explaining a character is not justifying them. Forgiveness has been an essential character of Tejo from the beginning. I have just explain the character the way I used to do with Fateh, while he's playing in his mistress lap and I still maintained that he loves Tejo. The same way, tejo's behavior makes complete sense.

Tejo is misunderstanding him? How? How can anyone expect her to believe Fateh when she doesn't remember anything? And the current equation mirrors her previous experience with him? Let us rewind.

Fateh says that he loves Tejo, has moved on with her, even sleeps with her, but then starts an affair with his saali, gets her almost killed bcz he could not pick up a single call, then feels bad and starts being all soft and nice with her, continuing running with his mistress.

Now again, he says he loves her, they get back, they sleep together, then fight and breakup. And he continues to sneakily meet with Jasmine. Now he's returned back being all sweet and Tejo has to believe him? On what basis? When the last things she saw was jasfa together?

I mean yes, because Tejo has never given him a chance to doubt on her character. She was being a perfect wife even when he was busy in his mistress lap.

Oh I'm all for tejo's character development, but it should be for her own person, not for Fateh benefit. I really doubt any of you would support a Tejo who will kick out Fateh from her life.

Naa Blue, kicking out this Fateh would be a stupid thing , Unless you want a selfish Tejo who would prioritize herself which is fine if she wants to. EMA Fateh deserved shit and kicks, not this one. He didn't meet Jasmine sneakily , he too was being played by her just the way Tejo was being played post Roka ,both are victim of Jasang.

Originally posted by: 08_maria

Naa Blue, kicking out this Fateh would be a stupid thing. EMA Fateh deserved that not this one. He didn't meet Jasmine sneakily , he too was being played by her just the way Tejo was being played post both are victim of Jasang.

Maria this will be an issue forever. He has not gotten reincarnated. EMA Fateh did not happen in last birth, they're same person.

Yes I should have phrased it better, but from Tejo's pov, they're 'sneaking around.'

Kicking out everyone would be a smart thing, there's too much trauma and pain associated with every relationship of hers. She's perfectly fine with them as individuals, but together even for a moment,she'll be insecure and doubt everything. Forgiveness is not forgetting. She'll never heal from her flashbacks, if she saw her with him close, no matter what reason, she'll get her flashbacks of retro night.

IT's better to end something so messy and traumatic.

Originally posted by: Bluekohl

Maria this will be an issue forever. He has not gotten reincarnated. EMA Fateh did not happen in last birth, they're same person.

Yes I should have phrased it better, but from Tejo's pov, they're 'sneaking around.'

Kicking out everyone would be a smart thing, there's too much trauma and pain associated with every relationship of hers. She's perfectly fine with them as individuals, but together even for a moment,she'll be insecure and doubt everything. Forgiveness is not forgetting. She'll never heal from her flashbacks, if she saw her with him close, no matter what reason, she'll get her flashbacks of retro night.

IT's better to end something so messy and traumatic.

oh yes , keeping aside the feelings they have for one another if thwy decide to go apart then fine , but we all know they got pendulum tendencies. Tejo will not leave him , she in the first place never holds a proper conversation , at times her love looks like a 'ehsaan' on Fateh lol🤭. I maybe wrong but sometimes I feel so.

But yes , they can part ways but that doesn't mean Fateh needs to be blamed! Maybe not great things but he has done enough for her , something which a person who truly loves would do. Apart from all this both are individually heavily flawed humans and live with regressive , insensible families , for these people our solutions of ending the mess are not real solutions.

We better enjoy these on fictions. Characters and storyline will keep changing as per the makers.

Originally posted by: 08_maria

oh yes , keeping aside the feelings they have for one another if thwy decide to go apart then fine , but we all know they got pendulum tendencies. Tejo will not leave him , she in the first place never holds a proper conversation , at times her love looks like a 'ehsaan' on Fateh lol🤭. I maybe wrong but sometimes I feel so.

But yes , they can part ways but that doesn't mean Fateh needs to be blamed! Maybe not great things but he has done enough for her , something which a person who truly loves would do. Apart from all this both are individually heavily flawed humans and live with regressive , insensible families , for these people our solutions of ending the mess are not real solutions.

We better enjoy these on fictions. Characters and storyline will keep changing as per the makers.

What has Fateh done for Tejo which is been reiterated here quite often? Please elaborate.

P.S keep aside baby Tejo phase cause it’s different topic

Originally posted by: Ashi_Naksh

What has Fateh done for Tejo which is been reiterated here quite often? Please elaborate.

P.S keep aside baby Tejo phase cause it’s different topic

haa baby Tejo ke alava kuch nahi kiya lol😆 I was referring to baby Tejo phase only.

Well , apart from that , if I think I'm actually not able to find much 🧐🙂

Post shimla he was genuine but Tejo and her mistake , then he too acted a brat so😕

Originally posted by: Padmajaan

Many times I feel that we are not watching the same show or may be you are watching it with tejo-tinted glasses.

The bolded portion - He never did this. It was all a montage by Angad and Jasmin. He never continued to sneakily meet with Jasmin. In fact he never trusted her ever after the vrat incident when he understood how much of a liar she was. And even when he was doing his EMA shit, he was never physical with J. Remember the scene when J tries her seductive stuff with aaj jaane ki zidd na karo playing in the background?

And when he told her your oft-quoted gold digger thing (btw am not sure he said exactly that, anyway that's how you always quote it), it was out of pique and insecurity as it happens often with couples in love when you say hurtful things to each other but don't mean it! Tejo has also said many such things to him and we all understood that she didn't mean it.

Anyway your way of looking at their couple is too one-sided and I guess we will never agree. Am sad about it that's all I can say.

Unbiased non tejo ya fateh tinted vision ka sun lo. This is the dialogue phir jise jo matlab nikaalna hai up to them.

Mujhe nahi pata tha ki tum bhi baaki aurton ki tarah ho jise apne liye ek chahnewaala amirzaada chahiye jiski pahunch DIG Magistrate tak ho. Uske saame ek maamuli sports teacher ki aukaat hi kya hai... and then tejo slapped him. This happened in college grounds. There were many dialogues before this. But this was fatehs response to tejo ka galti meri hai that i trusted someone like u who did ema. Fateh said to prove urself right don't throw my past in my face. If u wanted to be with Angad then u should have just said so main hat jaata and then the above dialogue. Before this fateh also said everytime he saw tejo with Angad he thought she cud never bhi wrong can't lie to me mujhe kabhi dokha nahi de sakti. He trusted her that's y didn't question earlier. And tejo came back with I thought u didn't ask coz u changed and matured and i praised u to Angad as well but should have known tum saare mard na sirf pyaar aur bharose ka naatak kar sakte ho lekin asliyat main tumhare soch main sirf gandgi bhari hoti hai. Agar itna hi dil jal raha tha tho u should have asked i wud have explained everything.

Post slap she said u broke roka and threw my sister in jail main chup rahi coz i thought u were right i was wrong. Maafi maangti rahi uss jhoot ke liye jo maine parivar ke sukh shanti ke liye bola tha and came her today to say sorry as well but after seeing ur this roop i have nothing to say. And she left bas.

After this confrontation fateh didn't call her gold digger ya whore ya anything of the sort. And no he never met J sneakily. He saved her from goons and took her to clinic bas. He didn't go there to meet her he was there for election campaigning. After this he called tejo to sort things out and they again had dialogues where tejo ne aate hi sawaal puche abt him and J and said dil main kaanta chuba tho bas pooch rahi hu. He held her hand and said i understand...bas tabhi Angad reached there. And again things escalated. Which ended with tejo holding angadji ka haat and walking off. Yes fateh ne mukka maara Angad ko. Fateh was actually leaving but Angad stopped him and provoked tho maara do mukka. After this election ke din tent waala manipulation by Angad hua tha where J went into tent thinking it's amrik and fateh was there. Yes he looked out of tent to c if anyone is watching and then asked J to leave. After this mms leak happened with rupi ka heart attack and then the whole Angad se shaadi and fire incident.

These r the order in which things happened. Ab jise jo matlab nikaalna hai it's their choice.

Originally posted by: Ashi_Naksh

What has Fateh done for Tejo which is been reiterated here quite often? Please elaborate.

P.S keep aside baby Tejo phase cause it’s different topic

Oh you don't know...he did a dharna. And jumped in front of a bus... And sent her four roses? Is that not enough.

I mean what has Tejo done for him...Except taking care of a grown tantrum throwing child while he's continually abusive, being a maid and caretaker to his entire family, handle their dwindling academy, find out about their long lost sister, bring her back and fight with his father, tolerate his nonsense humiliation, almost getting killed bcz he's busy in his lap dance and still not blaming him, and continuing to be his family's caretaker while he is playing ishq mohabbat with his mistress, getting him outta jail bcz mistress is just like him, then again handling their academy.... Oh and then saving his family from Jasmine, even going against her own family. But Fateh cried, and gave four roses, so ofc he did more.

Even including Baby Tejo phase, Tejo did all that and more while getting taunts, neglect, here he's being hailed as a God.

But you know it's like if a man does something, even making a cup of tea, it's heroic.

A woman can do literally everything, and that's just normal.

Originally posted by: FIREMYSOUL

Unbiased non tejo ya fateh tinted vision ka sun lo. This is the dialogue phir jise jo matlab nikaalna hai up to them.

Mujhe nahi pata tha ki tum bhi baaki aurton ki tarah ho jise apne liye ek chahnewaala amirzaada chahiye jiski pahunch DIG Magistrate tak ho. Uske saame ek maamuli sports teacher ki aukaat hi kya hai... and then tejo slapped him. This happened in college grounds. There were many dialogues before this. But this was fatehs response to tejo ka galti meri hai that i trusted someone like u who did ema. Fateh said to prove urself right don't throw my past in my face. If u wanted to be with Angad then u should have just said so main hat jaata and then the above dialogue. Before this fateh also said everytime he saw tejo with Angad he thought she cud never bhi wrong can't lie to me mujhe kabhi dokha nahi de sakti. He trusted her that's y didn't question earlier. And tejo came back with I thought u didn't ask coz u changed and matured and i praised u to Angad as well but should have known tum saare mard na sirf pyaar aur bharose ka naatak kar sakte ho lekin asliyat main tumhare soch main sirf gandgi bhari hoti hai. Agar itna hi dil jal raha tha tho u should have asked i wud have explained everything.

Post slap she said u broke roka and threw my sister in jail main chup rahi coz i thought u were right i was wrong. Maafi maangti rahi uss jhoot ke liye jo maine parivar ke sukh shanti ke liye bola tha and came her today to say sorry as well but after seeing ur this roop i have nothing to say. And she left bas.

After this confrontation fateh didn't call her gold digger ya whore ya anything of the sort. And no he never met J sneakily. He saved her from goons and took her to clinic bas. He didn't go there to meet her he was there for election campaigning. After this he called tejo to sort things out and they again had dialogues where tejo ne aate hi sawaal puche abt him and J and said dil main kaanta chuba tho bas pooch rahi hu. He held her hand and said i understand...bas tabhi Angad reached there. And again things escalated. Which ended with tejo holding angadji ka haat and walking off. Yes fateh ne mukka maara Angad ko. Fateh was actually leaving but Angad stopped him and provoked tho maara do mukka. After this election ke din tent waala manipulation by Angad hua tha where J went into tent thinking it's amrik and fateh was there. Yes he looked out of tent to c if anyone is watching and then asked J to leave. After this mms leak happened with rupi ka heart attack and then the whole Angad se shaadi and fire incident.

These r the order in which things happened. Ab jise jo matlab nikaalna hai it's their choice.

Thank you.

@padma I might be mistaken, but as far as I understand it's calling someone a gold digger