NAAJAYEZ........ - Page 3

Originally posted by: SundariP

No no, i agree that he came across as pshyco lover today, but I'm just saying it was out of desperation and guilt.

And also agree that it might not sit well with trp audience as they hold him on moral high ground and rn he's in the wrong.

It will only sit well with trp audience if madhav is or was shown having grey shades. Then he would be a rightous husband protecting his wife . They love aryan . They can accept his flaws as long as they are not at cost of innocent person's suffering. Like they would have enjoyed this madav actually would have tried something but failed , then it would be able for them.to justify aryan. Now they will have hard time reconcilling this aryan with the person aryan they know who even in his revenge mode never tried to separate adi and imlie rather on some occasions tried to fix it.

We can even see example of weather fiasco, they had hard time accepting the fact that aryan can accuse adi in false case in his.revenge mode. Hence trp.dropped a little bcz aryan became wrong and adi right. Same is.happening here.

For audience , aryan is about justice not vengence.

Originally posted by: sheen97

It will only sit well with trp audience if madhav is or was shown having grey shades. Then he would be a rightous husband protecting his wife . They love aryan . They can accept his flaws as long as they are not at cost of innocent person's suffering. Like they would have enjoyed this madav actually would have tried something but failed , then it would be able for them.to justify aryan. Now they will have hard time reconcilling this aryan with the person aryan they know who even in his revenge mode never tried to separate adi and imlie rather on some occasions tried to fix it.

We can even see example of weather fiasco, they had hard time accepting the fact that aryan can accuse adi in false case in his.revenge mode. Hence trp.dropped a little bcz aryan became wrong and adi right. Same is.happening here.

For audience , aryan is about justice not vengence.

Bold - There's a correction Sheen. Even in vengeance mode, Aryan had his own morals which were justifying.

Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Bold - There's a correction Sheen. Even in vengeance mode, Aryan had his own morals which were justifying.

Agree this killer mode aryan will be hard for them.to accept if it is accepted it will be only due to fahmaan's acting.

But narrative wise I can understand the need to show this extreme reaction of aryan bcz I think they want him to guilt trip hard and want him.to feel unworthy of Imlie for their next track. More the extreme reaction, more he will be ashamed of himself, more his feelings of unworthniness .

I haven't watched today's episode yet but seeing the pre-cap yesterday itself was heartbreaking. Something Imilie has always been through and now she is facing the same fate for her child.

@Milli 9. I understand what you are saying and this is what I've been saying through in Grace"s posts for a while. What does Aryan want out of it? He knows how his Mother behaved just with infertility, how crazy can she go knowing this?

Him even accepting that he has doubt on Madav either he is close to Jo or not, doesn't matter but this is more intimate secret between him and his wife. Shouldn't have made any sort of agreement kind of conversation with Jo what's so ever. How is he protecting Imilie and Cheeku? He is the one who says about planning future ahead of time, does he not keep the child and Imilie in heart of everything. Say his accusations are right still wouldn't he wants to be careful and not cause further damage? I would love to seeore calculative Aryan struggling to deal with it within himself excluding ANY third party.

I would have been glad if they shown Aryan"s monologue and inner turmoil rather than any discussion with Jo but Jo still instigating.

Fertility is a complex thing, had he googled properly he would have known it is possible because a lot of issues are still unexplained. Second a billionaire business man asking his second report to send home doesn't sit well with me. Wouldn't he keep it utter most secret ?

I am glad they are comfortable enough to talk through as a couple but the way it was executed was hard to watch. We understand he cares and trying to protect Imilie but there are instances that makers didn't show where Aryan pains for Imilie and what she has to go through at present. No dilemma regards to how it's hurting her and how he thinks she needs to be saved. I wouldn't say he needs to trust in Imilie regards to Madav, that's unrealistic but consider what she goes through., Especially she's pregnant after all the trauma she's been through recently. How awful it is for a woman to hear that it's not his child who she's carrying? Even if ithe baby is not his in reality. Wouldn't he want to atleast protect her this way? I wanted to see Aryan's deepest pain for Imilie in that Nayaz statement and if they shown that's what made him to take revenge, audience might have been convinced?

But like Sudari says it's true that there are different type of viewers the makers have to cover.

I guess the makers might go into Aryan's guilt trip and self doubt in next track which they couldn't show in Adi"s track. I would love to see these two power house actingl to the consequence of what's said and done in rage. Her fear after the miscarriage to get intimate with him, inner most turmoil to think about pregnancy again, shivers when he comes near him and his pain seeing what he has caused, guilt and self doubt of his decisions. How they work through it.

Up Untill now I doubt a separation track is on the way.

Imilie is shown more matured in this track. The best thing in this track is that the makers aren't showing Imilie doing her investigation in guilt trip for Madav. She's doing it for herself, her husband and family. She's trying her best to make Aryan understand, I know she lied initially not knowing what's happening behind her back. Since she knows, she's trying her best to communicate, she understands where he is coming from, that's growth and strength.

Originally posted by: handlerxsaviour

the varied opinions on this thread make quite the interesting read. this is precisely why i find this conflict rather intriguing as well (the execution sucks though). it’s much more complex than simply picking one side and saying that’s the right/wrong one. there are these multiple layers and indirect implications to each supposition with this conflict, each with its own merits. amusingly enough, i agree with everyone’s pov on this. they’re actually all true and valid in their own right. 🤷🏽‍♀️ my question rather, is what the optimum solution to this conflict could be at this point.

I haven't been really watching and just reading recaps. after a long while, watched yesterday's episode and I just can't relate to this weird track. am not sure I understand the emotional yo-yo.

so she was pregnant, then she was infertile. then she is pregnant. now he is infertile. all of this is mind boggling. so I need to simplify it to formulate a response

she is pregnant and she happened to spend a night out with her colleague for work. now he has got it in his head that it is madhav's baby. since he believes imlie won't cheat on him, he believes that she was violated.

you know what that sounds like? -- so many HR complaints where the husbands believe their wives were taken advantage of when it was simply an affair. so instead they complain to HR and make a loud noise that the male colleague was a prick. then after investigation, it turns out that there was a mutal affair and it wasn't even the colleague's fault. in some cases, there was no affair at all and just some overactive husband's imagination. there have also been cases where the wife was friendly with some colleague and so the baby's paternity comes into question. all of these stories I have heard from folks who work in HR.

imlie has taken this kind of scenario and made it weird khitchdi. aryan wants to believe his wife is good and she loves him only. so who is the villain? madhav. why does he cling so blindly to the "she was given pills and she had no idea" theory --- because if the opposite is true, then it means imlie willingly had an one night stand with madhav. so misplaced anger is instead pinned on madhav because he can't turn on the anger on imlie.

ultimately, this boils down to men and women working together and whether there should be boundaries in a professional setting. not to go off into random tangents but this seems to be the takeaway -- may be not work extra shifts when everyone else has gone home? and tell your husband what you are up to because he might assume weird things? 🤷🤷

Originally posted by: Wilddreams

His reports say he's suffering from Azoospermia. In that case natural pregnancy without any treatment is impossible.

Solid proof according to him is the double infertility report and that medicine which he thinks Madhav gave her which imlie is denying. That's why he wants Madhav to confess his crime infront of imlie so there's no reason for denying.

I know its very twisted but it makes perfect sense in his viewpoint because he's believing the facts on the other hand imlie is relying on her gut feeling.

I think like mili -- I don't understand why he immediately accepted that he was infertile and did not consider the tiny possibility that maybe the child was his. unless he is some medical professional with all sorts of knowledge, most people have all sorts of wild hope even when faced with a terminal diagnosis. so why didn't he?

I have heard of quite a few couples who were told they could not have children. in one case, the couple accepted and moved on. a decade after diagnosis, they decided to adopt a baby girl. when this adopted child was around 2 or 3, the couple ended up having 2 children in a row much to their surprise. the doctor's conclusion -- the couple were happy because of the adoption and so the body righted itself?! who knows. another couple were childless for 15 years -- they had made peace with it and were content being childless. then they had 4 children in a row. so these things do happen. 🤷🤷

In a lot of cases infertility is caused by stress. The moment someone let it go instead of thinking about it, it happens. For example pets and adoption, there are many store of couple conceived after that.

Personally went with fertility issues for good 14 years, 10-15 miscarriages, 4 failed IVF. Finally after having miscarried at one day to six months, gone through manual plesanta removal, trauma of letting go of those children, seeing them passing right Infront of our eyes, we finally gave up saying we can't go through it anymore. When we gave up, I conceived naturallly. Two years apart I have two children. Just writing it out for anyone who might be going through.

Aryan not being considerate even after Imlie referring to baby as najayaz is absolute bullocks but he is not thinking that far. First and foremost, he wants his wife to get justice, that’s all his brain is thinking of,

Had he thought through his revenge plan, he should have thought, will Imlie agree to be the victim during the police complaint, and like you said what happens to his wife and cheeks when his family gets to know why he kills Madhav.

Sans Aryan’s consistent brainwash to Imlie, his heart is in the right place. Both are correct in their place, it’s like a deadlock situation. Even though it’s been Imlie who has been proven right (Arpi’s wedding) and Aryan giving the finishing touches, I am still curious to see how writers are going to break out of this. Unlike the previous tracks, they have spent time on this one, hope they give it a proper closure.

Originally posted by: SundariP

But don't you think his desperation to prove his point is also for her only?

In his perspective she's a victim, if she doesn't accept she was harmed how will the healing begin?

I can draw parallel with what happened between Adi and Malini, he also refused to believe he was violated and imlie had to acquire proof to establish that.

Same happening here in parallel with diffence that the crime didn't occur this time.

This exactly is the point na? He has no solid proof if she is the victim. He proposed the possibility and she didn't think so. Then, the most responsible thing to do would have been if he is not convinced, these two steps need to be taken simultaneously 1. protect Imlie from Madhav guy, give him a lucrative assignment which doesn't include Imlie and send him to Australia 2. Investigate up the wazzu He is a billionaire, hire a private investigative company for God's sake, so nothing goes unnoticed. Then, if his doubts are confirmed, no one will ask him not to do the right thing.

But, here, he is not taking consequences of his doubts and anger into consideration. Collateral damage is Imlie and her peace of mind😡🤢. His concern for Imlie doesn't cut this behavior. How yucky is it when a pregnant woman is told again and again, that some diddly doo is the father and not him😡🤬 It is viscerally nauseating. This is where the woman's right to choose comes into play as the thought of carrying a product of xxxxxx is unbearable for some women🤢.

How does he intend to heal Imlie? If his doubt is the truth, Imlie will have drastic choices to make. To either 1. Keep baby and punish Madhav guy: this will include a public spectacle of herself and her chastity especially with Narmada. I agree this has to be done, whoever gets hurt. But, this needs to be proven 200% BEYOND DOUBT 2. Abort baby : what if baby is his? He needs to be infinitely sure about this. Unfortunately, serious consequences mean meticulous thinking and air-tight investigation with solid evidences.

So, I don't see a point in him trying to beat on Imlie repeatedly that " baby not mine, but I love baby". What does he achieve by this? More than anything, this stance is bothering me a lot👎🏼🤢

Yes it is possible for people with infertility situation to have kids, eventually, with time. I have seen Regional (tamizh) and Bollywood movies that have explored these.

It is different here, Aryan got to know he is ‘infertile’ at the same time his wife was confirmed to be pregnant. He did try to get a second opinion, which according to him, confirmed his situation. Between the doc saying there is no possibility for him to father a kid, Imlie saying she can’t recollect what happened that night, Madhav lying about that night, he wouldn’t have time to think, it could possibly be his child.

Not just him, none of the characters, including Imlie, has any reason to doubt Jo until yesterday. Even after finding the sandal print match the one on the cheque, Imlie didn’t target Jo, she is the one who is fasting for Arylie, she goes out in a storm looking for the two just to assuage Aryan’s mum, why will Aryan doubt she manipulated his report.