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Posted: 2 years ago
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maybe I will come off as a thali ka bengan here but I don't dislike Meera, I disliked the storyline surrounding her. I know I m going to sound like a broken here- haseena (no matter how annoying she gets at times), Karishma, my masumiyat, Pushpa Ji, cheetah, billu and Mahila police thana (what it stands for and hopes to achieve) is what matters to me the most. so when Meera came in, her personality (or lack thereof), the complete shift in focus, imbalanced dynamics and the sloppy writing around cases with glaring plotholes irritated the hell out of me. even then, Meera was a breath of fresh air, as one of you put it. the whole Andriod vis-a-vis humans debate was an interesting plot point that I wish was handled properly since that was the entire point of Meera as a character (the crashing and burning of it notwithstanding). along with it being hilarious, her dynamic with Karishma was an opportunity gift-wrapped for them. an android doesn't comprehend and perceive things the way humans do. so Karishma could not go in guns blazing when she was upset (Meera tried to strangle her). this was an opportunity for her to learn a lesson and grow as a person, something haseena couldn't do. to some extent, I think she did learn a thing or two. at the very least, she grew to respect Meera as an officer and comrade- character development. that is why the send off with Karishma saying, "yeh machine nahi thi sir, yeh meera thi." along with the salute and minute of silence was hands down one of the best scenes of the entire show for me as well as perfectly fitting for her character's end. does that mean I like it overall? no. but do I think Meera was a likeable character? yes.



now coming to the promo; i am in two minds about this.


on one hand, this is a good opportunity. aman presents a good challenge for MPT professionally. a healthy competition is good for professional development. a push here and there often promotes changes for the better in us. so I don't mind seeing a clash (respectful interactions and not a battle of ego) between the two stations and their ways of working. on a character level, I personally would like to see their dynamics shaken up a bit(so that they can be strengthened and not come completely crashing down). if written properly, aman can finally make them address the elephant in the room. speaking of which, i agree with anee here that he seems like a steadfast, confident and promising officer (although he is coming off a little arrogant) who won't be a double dholki. id like to see a strong male officer doing his job without any buffoonery. honestly, i won't even mind if he is a villain but he needs to be smart and pose an actual threat to them.


this lowkey reminds me of b99 when the other precient moved into the 99. the difference here is that those people weren't main or even recurring characters like aman is going to be.


on the other hand, I really despise the conversion of MPT into a general station. one, and this is more of early speculation than anything else, MPT has been appreciated and lauded by the whole of Lucknow for their ways of working, canonically. so why in hades' name is it being changed? I want to know what explanation they have for this (please don't be like the one given to introduce Meera). more than that, it's a niche they've used over 500 episodes to establish. why throw that all away? as Komal said, the core concept- 4 women officers running a women police station- is being messed with, which i cannot stand. again, it's always been the story and characters that matter to me the most. if they really wanted to do something like this, have him take over bulbul Pandey and continue whatever they wanted to do.


MS has a notorious reputation for not being able to balance its characters. with the addition of another four, I am a little sceptical of how it's going to work.


BUT, the most important, the one that will really send me rolling in my grave, is the love angel. I've said it before, I don't want to see it (one of the primary reasons I picked up MS). i want the characters to focus on themselves, dealing with their inner demons and working on their existing relationships (those need a lot of work). they can stay single for their entire lives, I don't mind. in fact, I cannot believe that haseena would move on from ehsaas wala pyaar so fast if ever (could be my personal basis based on the way I perceive relationships). I agree with Sainath in that this dude should only be here for a handful of episodes.


in conclusion, the overall concept would make for a good couple of episodes provided it's written well unlike ehsaas wala pyar that was nothing short of a seizure induing dumpster fire.


last thing, my masumiyat talking about her ideal type of guy and proposing Karishma is so that she can gush about this new entry later on. plus to make cheetah jealous and start behaving like a possessive nonexistent ex. it's annoying but that's been her pattern right from the first episode - Karishma, anubhav, chandramukhi chautala and that action hero. Mark my words, she is going to be the most receptive/ accepting of this new entry.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#32


With its own pros and cons, Mira track ended on good note. But yes that character even if in terms of comedy, made me realize how hypocrite and unsatisfied we humans are. 'Confused humans', 'egoistic humans' etc were just not the dialogues but the bitter reality.


agreed. meera was a mirror of our reality. I liked that aspect of her calling out their BS.



If he turns out to be powerful villain, someone smart, intelligent, sharp and bit cunning, I might end up liking him a lot, even more than MPT and even Haseena smiley37 I've different kind of obsession with either powerful villain or smart leads, who are not in a way too emotional (reminds me of Vardhan from Sadda Haq and in a way Haseena too, she is said to be jazbati but I particularly never believed it) I just hope one day we have someone who would be worth called villain in MS.

In that case, I might never want him to leave smiley42


HAHAHAHAHAHA. i can see where you are coming from. if he is a good character/villain and he turns out to be tolerable, I won't mind him staying (not at the expense of the core concept though. I am still hoping this is temporary and handled properly.).


Here I agree with you. She won't be over him so soon πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ For now I'm not ready for a love story but I won't keep my hopes high. I'll let makers drive me here and see how do they shape up everything


i am going to keep an open mind as well. hoping that the writers know what they are doing and will handle this well.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#33

I have watched Maddam Sir from the start. I lost track couple of months (when Mira left) ago but i am catching up.


I have to say i liked Savi since seeing him as Agastya in Guddan Tumse Na Ho Payega. Its good to see him again. This will be interesting. I much prefer his Guddan look though lol.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: LogicLover

We are on same page here. Like I mentioned before I want to see him as efficient as MPT and in positive role. I remember in CID, there were few cases that gave tough time to the team but in Maddam Sir, no villain was better than MPT. Even Rani and Barbie could hardly fool them for 2-3 days. Let him be a better opponent. Even if he is a male chauvinist, at least give his POV better. There is no need to show every villain as a fool or every new entry as villain.

Yoo, just realized that every entry so far has been a villain 😲. Meera technically wasn't until she got hacked. Anubhav was grey, then suddenly pure white, and then even more suddenly, pitch black πŸ˜†. I guess he was the only smart one though, kept them running around in circles for months before the grand reveal. But I really don't want him a male chauvinist, we've had so many cases of men looking down on women and women having to prove themselves. As a feminist show, they should portray what men and women working and/or fighting as equals looks like. That there can be more to the world than men vs women if ppl stop judging and stereotyping them in different ways.


Guy is good but I really don't want Haseena to fall for him. I know I'm being biased but I can't help with my disliking for love story in cop shows.. I prefer my Haseena to be single. Even my other fav shows like Arjun and special squad had explored romance but the stories couldn't reach their end. The feelings were never confessed and I was happy about that.

For once I gave try to ziddil dil and I ran away after first 30-40 episode. The show was an army show but they turned it into just a love story.

But tbh, I want a show that changes my perspective. A well balancing of romance and duty.

Yea I think the issue is the writing, writers can't seem to balance the romance and duty properly. Maybe because they have no background or understanding on what successful cop romance looks like to take inspiration from. Most cop movies/series/shows are romantic tragedies unfortunately. This show's writer Priya Mishra ji should have a good idea from personal experience though, she's the sister-in-law of a prestigious IPS lady cop of UP, and her brother is also a cop.

Also, I think its much easier to show a cop and non-cop romance. Like Karishma and Lalla. The guy has never been seen yet their love story has been shown perfectly and successfully. But I doubt MS would fall for a non-cop guy, the police job is literally her whole life and all she thinks about.


Even I'm fed up with those Kareena fans who ship them as couple. I mean bro, how many times did they admit they are friends. When will you understand Karishma is married and passionately in love with her husband. There was a time when Haseena was complete into Anubhav. So how did you even get the idea of shipping them as couple. But trust me a male companion for Haseena won't shut them up. They never accepted Anubhav because they wanted Kareena to be end game. They will not accept Amar as well. They are into their own world.

They believe that after Karishma is already passionately in love with Haseena, but Haseena is the one who doesn't realize her own love for KS and keeps her distance because of Lalla. If Haseena agrees and admits openly, Karishma would happily ditch her husband and marry her instead. What nonsense is that and where it comes from idk, they've made it an extra-marital affair story in their head and are happily justifying it. 😡

But you're right, no matter who comes into Karishma or Haseena's life those fans will still be in their hopeless imaginary world. I think it stems from them shipping YuKi as a couple offscreen, which they can't help but extend to onscreen scenes.

There are so many variations of what fans ship Kareena as that I really can't differentiate them sometimes in VMs. The same romantic song can be used by diff editors to show them as sisters, friends or lovers. Tbh I don't even see the romance in them, an eyelock or smile doesn't mean flirting for heaven's sake.


Even I was not a fan of Anuseena but please don't throw flying chappals at me, I liked chemistry of Rahil and Gulki. So whenever I used to think what made people ship Anuseena to such an extent, I only had one answer, it's their chemistry. Perhaps so even if I didn't like Anuseena, I loved Rulki. They pulled off scenes very well smiley36

Fair enough. I think its because to me Rahil appeared much older, so looks-wise they didn't match up in my head. I loved Rulki's bond, but I just couldn't see a romantic type chemistry in it. Plus their scenes seemed way too lovey-dovey to match their characters, so it kind of came off to me as forced.

But I think even Savi and Gulki will share a good chemistry. But who cares. I don't want a love story smiley37 no matter how good the chemistry is

I'm still on the fence. I want a love story but I don't trust creatives to pull it off successfully, as one that lasts till the show's end. And being the hopeless romantic I am, I hate incomplete love stories. I don't want Haseena to go through another heartbreak.


Let's keep all of them single except Karishma because she is already married.

But regarding Santu I'm confused about her like Sainath said. Now a days she seems to ready to to married if she gets an ideal partner.

Yea hey, Santu does keep bringing up the qualities of her ideal man...wonder what the writers have in mind. Or they're just messing with us and adding all that as filler.


Since we talked about Kareena fans, I'd like to wish Savi all the best. He is entering into fandom where many people have already made up mind not to accept him. Of course, the Anuseena and Kareena (who ship them as couple) fans. I saw few VMs on Insta where people have started making VMs on Kareena on sad songs with scenes in promo 🀣 Dono fandom ke dil mein kanjhar chala h. But I'm sure like Mira, he'll leave the show with fans loving him. People were insecure about Mira's entry as well but she became such a loved character later on.

Agreed.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#35


I actually really liked Meera because shook things up in a totally unique way and added an amazing new layer of comedy. Like you described, I also really enjoyed that she gave a new scope for Karishma's character development.


those are the things that I appreciated about Meera.


The only thing I didn't like in the whole track was the weird dynamic between Haseena and Karishma during that time, and the rest of MPT lingering around - imbalanced dynamics like you said.


yup, these were the things that I didn't like. most of the time, I was left confused (i am confused all the time actually- confused human).


As for the storyline, writing and cases, I could effortlessly excuse them all because, well I guess I was used to such nonsense lol.


🀣 I am sorry, I shouldn't have read this in class.


I felt the arrogance would be justified or its his underlying stubborness to do things his way, like our KS used to be.


then it's going to be a low-key repetitive storyline.


I guess now that KS has mellowed down they need someone else for HM to lock horns with and induce a change of heart in (Deepika di mentioned this already I think).


but if they go down this route and haseena actually learns to accept that there are other ways to do things or character development for everyone in general, I wouldn't mind.


No villain please though, yaar I'm so done with black and white characters, and all uniformed men being villain-types and anti-women (Bakshi and DSP ganju included, change my mind. One ruined HM's love life, the other keeps threatening her work life).


indeed. indeed. indeed. i agree. hopefully, he'll serve an actual purpose rather than just being a misogynist/useless senior. oh, they are the same rank this time I guess that would make more of a balance.


Oh they'll certainly have no realistic explanation, but we'll believe it anyways, what else can we do.


kya kar sakte hain jab chidiya jukh gayi khet. hayee rabba, hum kitne badhe wale topa hain.


This would obviously never happen in real life. But I don't think they will actually be merging MPT with the Amar Vidrohi's men, the 2 teams seem to be working independently on cases, almost like 2 police stations in one location. Maybe the men's original location is under repair, or maybe the public demanded male representation, or maybe DSP felt that MPT didn't have enough bhaukaal in their area.


well, as long as it is not permanent I am okay with it. if there isn't enough bhaukaal in the area, Karishma will be offended. then again, when has ganju DSP ever been a good senior to deliver messages properly. male representation could be a possible reason. maybe there was case that they messed up and resulted in a protest out MPT again since the public is so velle.


I know it was a typo but love angel smiley37. I literally imagined cupid trying to unite HM and AV.


oh my life🀣


Anyways, despite all my praises for the promo, the guy, and a potential love story, I will have to agree with you that its too early rn.


agreed.


There are way too many subplots and mini character dynamic changes happening in the background of every case that need to be addressed first. We're not over Anubhav's villainry, how could Haseena be over her ehsaas wala pyaar already smiley36.


i know right?! its my wishful thinking that they will be pushed to address their issues becuase of Amar vidrohi.


Honestly though, that's how I perceive relationships too. Just because that elephant in the room is not addressed doesn't mean that HM the character wouldn't be thinking about him alot. She wasn't over him months after he left her at the engagement, and the way she talked to Ammi about him felt like she would never be able to get over him no matter what.


exactly. it makes no sense for her to get over him so easily. like if it was after mission jeet, maybe i would accept that yes she moved on. but after shooting anubhav, I don't think she will get over it for at least a couple of years. I would have appreciated if they all sought therapy after everything (a good representation of the importance of mental health).


can they just keep all of them single though? just have them go out and live the single life man.


But I do really like how Gulki and Savi look together, he's exactly what I imagined her partner to be if she ever had one. Ahh I wish they didn't bring this track so soon, or that they brought an okay looking guy instead with no love story attached. Makers I'm okay with HM being single all life, just stop introducing guys who ppl can't help but ship her with.


I m such an anti-romantic person. i also want them all to remain single. this guy can just be there as a good character without the romance plotline.


Hadn't thought about that but wow, yea that seems how it'll actually pan out. You understand maasumiyat like no other.


😳

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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This is just a rumor. He would be going on vacation for few days like other members of the cast went. These media pages just hype the news


But in case this is the truth I can't bear without Cheetah Chaturvedi for long. Even 1-2 episodes will be difficult. These are the instances that break my delusion that I love Haseena most(though I do love her little more). Missing of any cast makes the episodes look incomplete

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: LogicLover

This is just a rumor. He would be going on vacation for few days like other members of the cast went. These media pages just hype the news


But in case this is the truth I can't bear without Cheetah Chaturvedi for long. Even 1-2 episodes will be difficult. These are the instances that break my delusion that I love Haseena most(though I do love her little more). Missing of any cast makes the episodes look incomplete

Exactly. And with this new hottie and his team coming, who will protect his Santu ji in his absence? πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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Originally posted by: Chir-Cute

Exactly. And with this new hottie and his team coming, who will protect his Santu ji in his absence? πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Seeing all the IVs, I really don't think he is going to be interested is Santu, HM or any ladies of MPT. Kinnari Mam's and Savi's IV Indicates that he is going to come only to create chaos for MPT and HM. So I speculate no love angle here and I hope it comes true.


Makers, please let my Haseena be single. You guys are going to ruin any love story in this show and I'm not ready to see her heartbroken again 😭


No no he won't be interested in either Santu or HM or agar ho gaya toh mera popat ho jayega 🀣

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I knew something was up when I didn't see Chita and Billu in the promo...my suspicions are getting confirmed...hope this is just a rumour and he's only on vacay for a few days...

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