Q. Why does world not recognise bollywood like kpop/kdramas? - Page 8

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Posted: 11 months ago
Originally posted by YeojaNextDoor


Thirdly, I don't agree that Bollywood has deteriorated in content ever since the 2000s (as many have been saying). Infact, it actually got a lot better and churned out much better cinema that would appeal to larger global audience after the 2000s. Please don't bring up DDLJ, K3G, HAHK as benchmark of great cinema that made Bollywood popular. Although I do agree that they were immense blockbusters, it's a fact that it was the NRI population mostly that made those films blockbusters and not the average white westerner. Films like these hardly had a genuine great story, great acting, etc which makes these appealing to a white population.. they were aimed at Indian diaspora in the west and were heavily "Indian" in nature , i.e., emotional quotient >>> logic. This hardly works for a westerner. He /She would get no head or tail of a film like HAHK /DDLJ and the entire thing will be lost on them (and it has been too.. as I follow a few reaction channels on YouTube and have noticed this) . 


To clarify, I never said Bollywood deteriorated in content. There is no doubt that Bollywood has been producing higher-quality cinema lately. They may not be mega-hits, but there is something lovely about getting a wide range of simple story-driven films.  

That being said cinema can be an escapist medium. DDLJ and HAHK are peak escapism. Wafer-thin plots with larger-than-life characters, the whole colorful song and dance sequences - were something. When you look at popularity of Bollywood films in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia - it is largely based on escapism. The song and dance routine appeal to them too because even they have cultural parallels to Indians. Today's content and story-driven cinema don't appeal to people who view cinema as an escapist medium. 

It just goes to show that people don't value the opinions of poorer and POC nations as much as white western nations. And to be honest, I perceive the whole western rejection of escapist cinema as ludicrous. Most people are trying too hard to be high brow. There was a whole era of musicals even in the west. What are the differences between something like Sound of Music and Bollywood films? Why does Slumdog Millionaire win an Oscar? Why is Mama Mia still a guilty pleasure? Why is even Spielberg remaking a classic musical? 

It often feels that western audiences won't embrace Bollywood escapism when it is Indians just being Indians and reveling in their Indianness - but will lap it up if there is an angle of poverty or overthrowing oppression.

Posted: 11 months ago

Kpop and kdrama has gone much more ahead of bollywood in last 5 years in terms of international appeal and visibility. There's no to way about it. And it's not that every thing Korea produces is of exceptional quality. But they offer so much variety and have built a brand and fandom for themselves which is sure to check out their content.

Their shows do not drag for years with same actors and storyline. They are over in 16 episodes most of the times. And these show offers new faces and new stories. Even if you don't like 8 out of 10 shows,chances are that remaining 2 will catch your interest. 

They have utilized social media to maximum level. Plus they have these young, handsome / pretty, well packaged idols and actors/ actresses which especially appeals to teen and young audiences.

 Bollywood offers same 50 year old actors that we have watching from past 30 years. Even our so called younger actors are above 35. Kpop has tonnes of good looking idols in early 20s debuting every other month.It's anyones guess which choice is more appealing for a young girl.  Bollywood masala movies show 50 year old uncles getting pretty girls of 25 years of age. Kdrama sells the fantasy of an ordinary girl being wooed by 2-3 handsome and young male leads. So again it's anyone's guess what kind of story young girls and women would want to see on screen. Being Centre of attention of couple of handsome 25-30 year guys or being a side kick for a 50 year old. A new trending it girl and boy emerges like every 6 months which keeps things fresh and moving. 

Female idols follow latest trends and styles and kind of become a role model to take inspiration from in terms of styling. 

Kpop and kdrama is nothing exceptional or intellectual for  most part, especially the trending ones that have most fans. But it is well packaged, takes into account the taste of its core audience, is fast paced, offers variety, sells fantasy in a much more effective and appealing way. So no wonder it has left bollywood far behind which  has no newness and diversity in terms of looks or themes. 

Edited by melody442 - 11 months ago
Posted: 11 months ago

In Korean cinema they are not ageist, older women if role requires act with actors who are younger then them. Like in Empress Ki, the actress was about a decade older then main ML, but they managed to work their chemistry was really good. It's not that all the content are good coming from Kdramas but some are really good to watch. 


I love thriller, psychological, scifi genre, which Kdramas and Chinese drama give me this content. Even USA has few of the best Scifi series I have watched, like Fringe, Stargate SG 1, Star Trek Voyager etc. Even HW is losing touch with this genre. 


This I am afraid is rarely seen in BW, where an older actress work with younger actors. Only the older actors work with actresses who are old enough to be their daughters. 

Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by Chameli_billi



An entire race is ugly? That’s textbook racism. 


have they even seen wi ha joon tho 

Posted: 11 months ago
Originally posted by return_to_hades



To clarify, I never said Bollywood deteriorated in content. There is no doubt that Bollywood has been producing higher-quality cinema lately. They may not be mega-hits, but there is something lovely about getting a wide range of simple story-driven films.  

That being said cinema can be an escapist medium. DDLJ and HAHK are peak escapism. Wafer-thin plots with larger-than-life characters, the whole colorful song and dance sequences - were something. When you look at popularity of Bollywood films in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia - it is largely based on escapism. The song and dance routine appeal to them too because even they have cultural parallels to Indians. Today's content and story-driven cinema don't appeal to people who view cinema as an escapist medium. 

It just goes to show that people don't value the opinions of poorer and POC nations as much as white western nations. And to be honest, I perceive the whole western rejection of escapist cinema as ludicrous. Most people are trying too hard to be high brow. There was a whole era of musicals even in the west. What are the differences between something like Sound of Music and Bollywood films? Why does Slumdog Millionaire win an Oscar? Why is Mama Mia still a guilty pleasure? Why is even Spielberg remaking a classic musical? 

It often feels that western audiences won't embrace Bollywood escapism when it is Indians just being Indians and reveling in their Indianness - but will lap it up if there is an angle of poverty or overthrowing oppression.


Slumdog millionaire was/is complete trash. Not even worthy of a paan masala award. 

Posted: 11 months ago
Originally posted by Mahisa_22



Slumdog millionaire was/is complete trash. Not even worthy of a paan masala award. 


Paan Bihar award smiley36

Posted: 11 months ago
Originally posted by melody442


Kpop and kdrama has gone much more ahead of bollywood in last 5 years in terms of international appeal and visibility. There's no to way about it. And it's not that every thing Korea produces is of exceptional quality. But they offer so much variety and have built a brand and fandom for themselves which is sure to check out their content.

Their shows do not drag for years with same actors and storyline. They are over in 16 episodes most of the times. And these show offers new faces and new stories. Even if you don't like 8 out of 10 shows,chances are that remaining 2 will catch your interest. 

They have utilized social media to maximum level. Plus they have these young, handsome / pretty, well packaged idols and actors/ actresses which especially appeals to teen and young audiences.

 Bollywood offers same 50 year old actors that we have watching from past 30 years. Even our so called younger actors are above 35. Kpop has tonnes of good looking idols in early 20s debuting every other month.It's anyones guess which choice is more appealing for a young girl.  Bollywood masala movies show 50 year old uncles getting pretty girls of 25 years of age. Kdrama sells the fantasy of an ordinary girl being wooed by 2-3 handsome and young male leads. So again it's anyone's guess what kind of story young girls and women would want to see on screen. Being Centre of attention of couple of handsome 25-30 year guys or being a side kick for a 50 year old. A new trending it girl and boy emerges like every 6 months which keeps things fresh and moving. 

Female idols follow latest trends and styles and kind of become a role model to take inspiration from in terms of styling. 

Kpop and kdrama is nothing exceptional or intellectual for  most part, especially the trending ones that have most fans. But it is well packaged, takes into account the taste of its core audience, is fast paced, offers variety, sells fantasy in a much more effective and appealing way. So no wonder it has left bollywood far behind which  has no newness and diversity in terms of looks or themes. 


Well, our women viewers too indulge old uncles wooing (and getting) young women. 

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