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Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by Roch



Madam aapko salaam, aapki analysis humara din bana deti hain. Thanks for making it happen, was missing it since morning. Watched the episode first and then read your analysis. However re-watched the episode post reading your analysis. 


Well it was a good episode and no over the top drama. And I think I did like all the scenes that played out. Virat though was sober but was still feeling guilty for what he did. And that reflected in his actions, emotions and dialogues for that matter. 

Sai takes everything at face value, so guess she has also acknowledged his apology and did not want him to feel guilty for what has happened. 


Well Vahini has gone on another level of delusion, tila kay bolaycha tech samjhat nahi. The man was loud and clear when he said "Mere dil mein tumhare liye koi feelings nahi hai, na kabhi ho sakti hain" phir bhi ye madam itna react kyun karti hain. What Sai told her was absolutely right, its about your self respect which you are crushing by behaving like this. Pan hyana kon samjhavnar. 

But somewhere I do pity her, she hasn't seen a married life, has not felt the affection of the other human (her husband), she is vulnerable and that makes her obsessive. The question she asked her mother made sense and she thought after such an argument they wont make up. It was a very nice scene actually. Execution is an issue, i had a problem with the trio scene as well, the scene was very well placed but somehow Pakhi's character brings the scene down (pulls the chemistry down - this is my feeling could be completely wrong). 


I think Virat did address the elephant in the room (a little), I think he was clear to the ladies about what he feels about. Told Vahini.....i have no feelings for you and told Baiko.....you matter to me. 

No where he mentioned to Vahini that i don't have feelings for you as i now have feelings for Sai. Thats his Status Quo simple and he has been maintaining that stand. But Vahini is very Machtoor so she understands his actions and knows his changing feelings for Baiko. And Baiko is on another tangent, she wants everything spelled out but Navra wants to give hints. 

Waise the scene where he did demand her to feed him, was vocalized by him and acknowledged by her. So has Virat gone more vocal after yesterday, after stating "Tum bohot mayne rakhti ho" and "Waqt bitana chahta tha". Thoughts welcome sister on this one smiley24


Well lets see how it progresses from here, he has seen behavior of both the ladies. He knows what angers his wife and his vahini does not consider him as a friend. So lets see what happens from here. 


Aaj ka ek sawal, bohot logo ne poocha main bhi pooch leti hoon smiley3

Ye vahini ka room sound proof hain kya???? Awaz bahar nahi jaati, Toh kya is Samrat's photo the secret bearer who has witnessed all this. 

@bold Vahini intelligent hain. Pehla pot floor pe pheka, but baaki sab cheeze carpet pe pheka taaki noise thoda absorb ho jayein aur zyada bahar na jayein 

Plus ghar ke sab log Sai ko zyada pasand karte hain ((bas dikhate bhi) tabhi to uski minute minute detail pta hoti hain in logo ko.

Posted: 2 months ago

I actually felt sorry for Pakhi today. I think it's the first time I felt sorry for her. Her dialogues were totally undignified and she let herself down so badly. I wish the nuances were acted out better though. 

Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by jankiraghav


Good afternoon sisterhood! 🌷🌷

Today the mood is built for an evening chaat outing 😜

Ab the "make up fight" menu was so tempting that a visit to the chaat house is mandatory. 😅😅😅 Whoever wants to join please do... I promise lip smacking dahi pooris and whatever you like. Kisi ke Saath share Karna ho toh unhe bhi Lete aana 😂🤗😜

Picking my moments from today --

Today Chavan Saheb gave lessons in how food is broken down into energy. But does he know that for a third person watching the act of food-sharing and feeding between a couple, it is a big indicator of the level of intimacy in their relationship... It has been a very established fact of intimacy that sharing a plate of food, feeding one another -- and that too with the same spoon -- is one of the 'physical' intimacies that are shared among the closest people -- especially spouses. 

Two people witnessed their moment of intimacy -- Aai, with all her good wishes and sincere prayer to keep them safe from evil eyes; and then the evil eye herself, who couldn't stop applauding them for their 'beshkimti' private moment in their private space and even rue the fact that she didn't have a camera on her to click the picture to share on the Chavan family WhatsApp group...

It made me think of the most commonly asked question: Does good win over evil or does evil triumph?

Aai - in her moment of anxiety and worry when she learnt that Sai was leaving the house, instinctively assured Usha Maushi and rushed to stop Sai from leaving. At that moment, it appeared as if Ashwini did not have the hope that Virat would have sobered and been in the frame of mind to stop Sai from leaving -- or perhaps that he would even know that Sai was leaving. For the first time, she appeared to be in no mood to pander to Virat which is understood by the fact that she was first concerned about Sai and Usha having a meal more than Virat. (and of course, Bhavani could only think of Chavan niwas ki maryada rakhne wala mard being hungry). 

The moment Ashwini sees Virat and Sai feeding each other the morsels of the meals, she knows they are taking steps towards reconciliation and leaves with a sincere prayer to save them from all evil eyes and to give them the faith to trust one another to rebuild that which has been damaged.

Patralekha witnesses that same moment in her moment of newfound hope that the fight has been the "ultimate"-- almost like a nail in the coffin in which the marriage was brought home. Yes, wasn't she aware that it was a marriage that was lying in a "coffin" that would be eventually buried once the consideration (Reason) of the deal between her 'imaginary husband' and his 'deal wife' was complete -- that she would become a doctor and leave? It was always supposed to be a 'dead marriage'. At the back of her mind, she was always worried about the deal wali shaadi becoming a 'dil wali shaadi' because she knows cohabiting in the same room can never leave two people untouched (not physically) by one another's love and affection. in between, she has witnessed the moments of Virat's conviction for Sai, his support to her against his family-- something that she could never have for herself when she needed it the most. When he refused to take her hand in marriage, it was because of this "family" that he rejected her... It also makes me wonder why does she not harbour a grudge against the family, actually? Is it because she thinks they would have eventually accepted her as 'wholeheartedly' (pseudo-feelings) as they have done now or because she knows that the only way to avenge her "beizzati" is to use the family as a crutch/cover? 

So, Patralekha until now never witnessed Sai and Virat's moments after their fights and disagreements that she thought were big enough for "Virat apne aap ko kuch kar na le"... Today, was the first time she actually witnessed their intimacy that she had only once heard of during a conversation between Ashwini and Sai. She actually witnessed them 'breathing life' into what she thought was the 'dead' marriage. 

The face-off between Sai-Virat and Delusional Didi was a pretty good one because Virat did not actually stay silent this time.  Thank God for small mercies... Usi par hum zinda Hain...

Loved each of Sai's dialogues to Delusional Didi -- and each coming not as a retort to the 'taunt' but as genuine advise. It might appear as a reply to her acerbic comments about husband and wife, but Sai with all her goodness actually wishes well for Vahini. 

Right from her reminder about her 'atmasamman' to PP's 'beizzati' rant and her reminder to PP about her 'conduct' in a couple's room. 

In fact, Sai brought up the issue of the 'relationship' of "bura lagna" and expectations between Virat and PP and it was another 'missed chance' from Virat to clarify the 'sach' between Sai and PP. 

Of course, one would desire that he should really open his mouth spashthly and make the stand clear because the "mera sach tumhare sach se alag hai" has been said to both Sai and Vahini but the spashthta is yet to be communicated to at least the 'wife'. I think it was a definite moment where he could have addressed it and backed Sai's comment about Mohit and Karishma with equally stern words about it being the space that belongs to the husband and wife. Does anyone believe in striking while the iron is hot? It was the perfect moment to end this entire "butting in" business. But no, how would we continue watching the show with 'special effects of zehereeli vahini'?

Moment of the day: 

To me, the moment of the day came from Patralekha's conversation with her mother:

"Ek baat poochun... Aapke aur Baba ke beech mein kabhi aisa hota hai ki aap dono ke beech khoob jhagda hua ho aur aap dono hi baad me maan gaye hon.."

"Haan, ek baar kya, aisa hazaar baar hua hai. Aur hum dono hi kya, har pati patni mein aisa hi hota hai..." 

"Matlab Sai aur Virat bhi pati patni ban gaye hain?"... 

It was not easy for her to witness the moment when she saw them breathing life into what she assumed was a dead body between them. All the time, so far, she has walked into their space when they have been silent, at a distance from each other physically or emotionally -- when they have been fighting or anxiety taking over their conversations. She has seen them turning their backs on each other in public. She has always found the space between them, where she could slide in and make her presence felt. Today, was the first time she witnessed that space had been "sealed". She could not find that space even when they were physically distanced apart -- when Sai was nowhere in close physical proximity to Virat, when she was outside the house and even when Virat was brooding alone in a distant corner. Yet, there was no space for her to slide in because it remained occupied by Sai even in her absence. When she tried to breach that space, she was snubbed and pushed away hard. 

And finally, she witnessed them 'sealing' that space they had created in their own moment of loss. Her meltdown in private was her acknowledgement of the fact that she had been trying to find her hope so far, assuming that the 'dead' would eventually be buried and she would have that space to herself because it should have originally "belonged" to her. But that is not going to be the case. A woman's instincts about a man are strong. And Patralekha's intuition about Virat's 'connection' with Sai has been right from the first time she heard him speak of her. 

Her mother's words were a reminder to her about the world's biggest fact, as Ashwini said, "Pati patni ke beech me kya chalta hai, ye sirf unhe hi pata hota hai.."

It would be so apt if Patralekha can still accept the reality and decide to find her 'atmasamman' that Sai spoke of. The reason why she feels the "beizzati" is not because someone else is doing it to her but because she is actually keeping her 'atmasamman' at stake to be able to get a oneupmanship in the power struggle that she's actually running alone -- "Sai jeet hi gayi" ... But Sai is actually running no race! 

I can't help but ask --ye Vedi Vahini ke room mein aise kya special acoustics use kiye hain that she can get away with all kinds of sounds, screamings and vase breaking -- without drawing the attention of the ever-ready sound investigators in Chakram niwas? 🤔😑🙄 Right from her suhaagraat wali cry "Main tumse pyaar karti hoon Virat" to her screaming all day of the never-ending Sunday and the ultimate tehes nehes of the pots and trinkets in the room-- and no one can hear her?😑😑😑 Kamaal hai! Aur wahan, lead couple ke bedroom se toh whispers bhi udd udd kar bahar aa jaate hain? Ye kaisi nainsaafi hai? 😒👿

Coming to the "sealing space" part: There is a lot left to be desired, a lot left to be stated and clarified. A lot of unanswered questions need to be asked again and answered spashthly (Will Websters' or Oxford accept the entry of this word to be included??😎🤓) There are unsaid emotions that need to be ironed out. And of course, the latest knot that has been added to the already tangled rope with the public spat needs to be "untied" eventually.

The attempt at reconciliation is filled with tender moments in the evident effort to move on from the ugly spat --most real life couples make the mistake of pushing away the crux of the fight aside while trying to first broker peace. But in this case, the marriage is far from being a rock solid one. The attempt has the potential to come down like a bridge built with a pack of cards that can never be strong enough to withstand even someone blowing a mild wind by their mouth at it -- and unfortunately there are more than a handful people waiting to bring their precarious bridge crashing down. Someone play the 'London Bridge is Falling Down' rhyme for them for tips... 

Sai's "Aapko mere haath se khaana hai, toh saaf saaf boliye na... ye drama karne ki kya zaroorat hai" -- it is a symbolic line. It applies to their entire relationship and the issue it faces -- lack of spashthata. 🤥🤕🥴

******

So, Why does it seem that 'evil' can win over good? Does it always win over good? Does Good really triumph over evil? 


I am not very sure how relevant the quote will be but Friedrich Nietzsche had said  ‘that which an age considers evil is usually an unreasonable echo of what was formerly considered good - the atavism of an old ideal’

I guess it’s really not fair to portray things as completely white (good) or black (evil). I think it’s always a mixture of both- only more grey and less grey

Now, I first want to say that by 'evil' I don't mean people are "Evil". They do evil things because of warped reasons that make them feel justified in trying all means to achieve the 'goal'. It also depends on who is telling the story that decides who is 'good' and who is 'evil'. 

It depends on the "good". I don't think it is fair to generalise that good will always triumph. Good has the potential to triumph but in an ongoing war between good and evil, evil can definitely win if the good is unwilling to go far enough to thwart the bad. The weakness of the 'good' in a war is that it does not think of "outsmarting" the evil by hook or by crook -- using any necessary means, at the cost of conscience, is the doing of the evil. The goodness of the 'good' actually makes it vulnerable and easier to defeat. 

Evil thrives on selfishness and greed (for power, oneupmanship or whatever be the consideration). Evil does not conform to rules, values or even ethics because it puts survival first. 

That most probably may be why maybe Guru Chanakya coined the terms- sam, daam, dand, bhed.

So that one doesn’t completely digress from ‘good’ and transforms into ‘evil’

That makes it even more significant for the 'good' to do much more than just believing in its value system... if not, evil can certainly appear like it is trampling the good, although deep within the fruits are only borne by the good. 

It's time for high-tea, but what would a high tea 🍵🍵🍵 party be without the dose of coffee ☕☕☕

Aaj aane mein der huyi, lekin aa hi gayi 

Kaisa tha din, do baatein pyaar ki kar ke batao na... bhook mitao na! 

🤗🤗🤗🤗❤️❤️❤️❤️

Love you all,

❤️J 

 

As usual in awe of your thought process and writing style.

Edited by Srijeeta06 - 2 months ago
Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by jankiraghav


Thank you soo much dear smiley31smiley31smiley27I get extremely enthused about the discussions we have here. I try to reply to each message and join as many threads as I can and I feel its such an enriching platform! 

It sure is a great platform and some of you guys , use it so well. I literally look forward to read your thread before i actually watch the episode. 
Love your detailed explanations and always enjoy all your posts !! And i am always amazed that you never miss a moment in any of your posts .

Just love your posts and you ofcourse smiley27smiley31

Bighug !!

Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by jankiraghav


Her conversation with her mother made me feel that not only has she been brought up to get whatever she wanted but also raised in an extremely cocooned environment where she doesn't even know that there were fights between her parents  -- much as we would say children should not witness parents fighting, it is important that they know that relationships have dynamics. Healthy disagreements, compromises and also differences of opinions are normal. When you put up a facade in front of a child, he/she grows up as an insecure individual with no sense of self-worth during a conflict situation, almost unprepared to accept the solution that would be sitting right in front of them. 

Janki, you're right. How come in all these years Pakhi never witnessed her parents fighting? It doesn't have to be a huge drama but sometimes there can be a difference of opinion between couples. No wonder, Pakhi behaves like a queen and expects everyone to treat her the same way and wants everything to go her way. 

Posted: 2 months ago

I just log in after years and years  ! to read your analysis ! mindblowing write ups ! and always to the point ! thank you !

Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by maahi11



Wow what a lovely post, the chaat seems thekha and if the chaat is not theekha its not a chaat. 


what an amazing post and well written 

1stly yes even I thought of the fact that itna thord phord karne kay baad bhi no one came to the room, and if i am not mistaken Kaku must be waiting for her to call Virat for dinner. So Kaku should atleast visit the room if she does, 

I hope she does tomorrow. Would love to see how she cajoles her susheel bahu after the tod phod


Like I posted earlier atleast they should have updated usa Mausi with the developments she was packing her bags and dint had anything either. 

Haan, i wondered, khud khaa pee kar phir usha maushi ko surprise karenge kya? smiley36


2ndly, he had already told sai that she means to him (obvio he doesnt realize his feelings tabhi bola i dont know why I dint liked Sai going out for lunch with her prof or that he wanted to spend some time with her on trip and today for lunch) I dont really felt the need to clarify Sai that he has no feelings left for Pakhi because if Virat had clarified her or corrected her it would meant he is giving justification. Love is slow process and for them before love its imp to realize each others worth in each others life. If its portrayed and Cvs takes effort it can be portrayed beautifully, the feel of love is different, the idea of falling for someone hard. But before that ehsaas they both need to grow more nurture and acknowledge each other. 

I think it is not justification but clarification that is needed. They need to have this open conversation. Simply because the 'condition' was placed very vocally and repeated on multiple occasions. So the part about having it gone must be explicitly stated instead of feeling resentful about the other not responding... The slow love story is a joy to watch. 


Earlier Virat might be confused. He might not able to come in terms of his feelings. He made Pakhi clear that he doesnt loves her earlier I thought he should draw a line for Pakhi Which i guess he did today by saying why cant i bring food for Sai today he did replied Pakhi that if she ask any question she will get a reply and earlier he told Pakhi in front of everyone that Pakhi behaves differently with rest and different with Sai. I used to feel when Virat says zimadari uttana hai become more of an ehsaan, but somehow I am getting a feel that he is trying to come in terms of the fact that he is married. Whether Virat was in love with Pakhi or not thats subjective but he wanst sure shot ready to marry anyone let alone Sai. But he married when did not get time to even come in term of his feelings, Sai and Virat are that two individual who trying to know each other payaar tho dur hai. Where Virat is double of Sai's age. So he will take time to comprehend their feelings there attachments, somehow Virat is mesmerized by Sai's daring behaviors coz that what he needed to be inbuilt but its his childhood that had made him submissive. Yes Submissive I feel he is one  the way story has been projected so far I feel he is like is mother a submissive in thought and actions. Though he became an IPS officer but for me that was to please his family and to get recognized by them. From childhood he saw his mother been ill treated by the family members where an officer like him should have raised voice against the abusive, bad and unacceptable behavior of his family. Instead he let his fam treat his mother no less then a servant. he was shocked when aai compared him with his father, what aai meant was jitni bhi achi parvarish kari tumhari genes to tumhe tumre dad kay hi mile and so u misbehaved with ur wife or should I say when other day pakhi mentioned that u need to teach some manners to your wife u found this was best way to do so. Aai told Virat she saw Ninad in him, So was this the reason he apologized Sai because  he could not accept the comparison of him to his father, that somehow he hated his father for ill treating his mother but surprisingly never did anything to protect her honour. I guess Virat has this broken childhood, a childhood where he has seen his fam ill treating his mother and all wanted a recognition and acceptance from his fam and therefore becoming an IPS officer gave him that recognition from his family

He's older, but not that old... The part about his father is now confusing. He was shown as someone who idolised his father, but may be it is only from the 'duty' pov because the man is clearly not a good human being. If he was taken aback, as I mentioned the day before, I don't know why he idolised him all these years. Or was it surprise that she said he behaved like his dad because he did not know his father was like that. But it is unlikely .. I do agree he has had a broken childhood... a toxic one for sure. 


Today epic for me was finally Pakhi saying Virat is not a good friend, for me Virat and Pakhi were not friends at all let alone best friends. Yes Virat cares for Pakhi like he cares for all other family members probably Karishma too. In 1st first case Virat and Pakhi were attracted to each other they how did Pakhi become his best friend bhai dosti humne bhi ki hai and it takes time to call anyone ur best friend let alone that person u thought u loved, whose number you lost and had no ways to reach out to her. and then u meet her as ur hone wali bhabhi. tho yeh best friend kaha say aya. 

The biggest scam in this show is this forced love story between two people who didn't even know each other's names smiley36 To me it's just like virat carrying a monkey on his back, na jaan na pehchan bas peeche pad gayi bhabhi... 

Posted: 2 months ago

Originally posted by Ishradivani


Good evening ☀️

Aap aaye bahaar aayi ❤️❤️❤️

Today I waited for your post more than any other day. I couldn't find significant leads in the episode which is why I wanted to read your post and then go back watch again. So I was refreshing the feed many times since morning😂 . Chalo der aaye durust aaye.

Them feeding each other was such a significant moment. There is no awkwardness at all which is supposed to be a inherent part of a deal marriage. These people have come a long way and started holding bahut maayne in each other's life. Personally for me feeding someone with my own hands is a very intimate thing.  I only do that with the closest of ones. So I really wanted to know from you if that is considered intimate in a spousal relationship???? 

There is a Columbia University research paper on intimacy when feeding one another. I had read something a few years ago and it had remained stuck. It must be on google. 


Our dewdrop still cares about that family 🥺🥺🥺. Ye ladki bhi na !!!!! I also felt aaj virat thoda guilty tha shuru mein. He didn't even want to eat.


The relief that spread over ashiwini's face on seeing them together was so pure. I also liked that fact she considered sai as her own with every bit of her heart. "Mai aayi hu uski " was so poignant. And the small prayer she sent out later is the voice of everyone watching the show🧿🧿🧿


Patralekha ke baare mein kya hi kahun !!!! Sai was absolutely right when she said that she is only putting her self respect at stake. All this taanabaazi is only revealing the ugliest side of otherwise susheel sanskari shahanukulli maratha khaandaan ki beti. She has really slipped into a state of obsession about virat. She is unable to look at the other side even when virat has vocalised it in  sound mind in spasth words. Infact he expressed disgust about Sai's thoughts when revealing to pakhi. But still vahini is obsessed🤦🤦🤦. It makes me wonder sometimes about the values she inherited. Sai and virat have never seen a happy married couple all their life . Still these two have high values with regard to every relationship not just pati patni. On contrary to it patralekha grew up in a happy going household but failed to acquire these values. We can't attribute her behavior as a reaction to virat's marriage or vaada. She has not made any true relationship in chavan household not even with maansi. She is just being a oppurtunist and taking up every chance at hand to belittle sai and keep herself at a higher pedestal. Her " Tum mere dost nahi ho " left me in splits. Behen dosti ka matlab bhi pata hai tumhe 🤦🤦🤦🤦

I think she is a product of bad parenting. Her parents have shielded her from all realities of life and failed to make her a person who could make proper choices in conflicts. And it is clear that she has never been taught to share, let go or be largehearted for her own good. 


I can't understand her agenda. Maan lete hai ki sai will leave after her course and samrat will never return. Then is she expecting chavans to get her married to virat because she has been susheel all these days and kitna khyal rakhti hai virat ka as per bhavani words????? There is something seriously off with her characterisation. We just can't understand the motto behind all her actions🤷🤷🤷. And the actress is making it impossible to understand the nuances of pakhi of there are any 🤦.

It does look like that.. she felt hope in the backdoor entry she could make. Even if not but the fact that Samrat would not return and Virat would be single and pining for her would then have a clear chance of Virat asking the family to allow him to marry her... it was quite possible if Sai hadn't come into the picture. 


The audacity with which she enters sairat room and taunts them on their relationship is 😡😡😡. What would she have done if samrat was not virat's brother but a friend and rest of the story remained same???? Arghhhhh I really hate her !!!!!!!


Thankyou for the post. It was lovely and I get to learn a lot from you everyday❤️. Hope you have shifted to the new place. I badly want to hit ur place now for all the dahi puri love you shared and maybe try one too 😂😂😂

Lo, i went through the entire post of yesterday because you said you left a comment over there and here it is! smiley36 Aa jaao.. address bhi de deti hoon. Elco street, Bandra. Kab aana hai? smiley36


Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin 


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