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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: ninag

children that are adopted are done so because either their real parents have badly treated them or because the biological parent couldn’t look after the child for certain reasons. That isn’t the case here. Karan as a bio father who loves him and wants to take care of him. As for Vikrams fake mother - why should he risk her life by revealing his truth. Is he that callous? I don’t think so. 



I am not saying he is being callous. My point in both the above cases was that biological father has rights but that doesn't mean that the person who raises the kid have no right on them. Manav is ready to treat Mr and mrs Dewan as their own parent and do anything for them. Two people who have no blood relation with Manav but have given him all the love and support in the world. If we believe that Manav should love and respect them and they have every right on Manav then how can we say Sarab has not the same right on karan.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Tvfanatic85


I am not saying he is being callous. My point in both the above cases was that biological father has rights but that doesn't mean that the person who raises the kid have no right on them. Manav is ready to treat Mr and mrs Dewan as their own parent and do anything for them. Two people who have no blood relation with Manav but have given him all the love and support in the world. If we believe that Manav should love and respect them and they have every right on Manav then how can we say Sarab has not the same right on karan.

Here no one is saying that Sarabh has no right on Karan but he is wrong because the way they treating Manav is not correct. We can understand that Meher as a mother afraid of loosing her child. That doesn't mean that to keep her child with her she can question Karan's biological father. And taunt Manav that he is not capable of taking responsibility . How can she say that? Manav got new parents after Meher 'S mom killed him. Before that he himself raised up. He is more responsible than Meher because though he is orphan and no one was there for him to guide what should be life goal. His poverty and his self respect lead him to achieve a goal like clearing IAS exam. Before he achieve it he not went to ask Meher's hand for him from KK even though Meher's insistence.  That Meher herself told it before in earlier episodes. That means he knew his responsibility when to take. His mistake is that he loved her and believed her who told that love itself is  childish. I learnt one more time that childish love is also become god. 

In that case Meher is not responsible human being because she  broke her mother's, brother's trust for her childish love. Manav never forced himself on her. Whatever happened that happened with each others acceptance. Even knowing her pregnancy with his child happily accepted and was ready to take the responsibility never took his step back. In his place if some other guy who thinks just like Meher and has background like hers may have cheated her. 

And moreover no one should force any relationship on anyone to accept. Manav accepting his new parents because they saved his life. And his step father requested him to keep quiet for the sake of his wife. This show 'S how well behaved person he is. And also once learning that Meher is moved on he never forced her to come back. Meher cheated him hiding Karen's relationship he has with him. She knew that he got his memory back. It was her responsibility to inform and convince him what all happened has to accept it. How honestly she explained her past with Sarabh with the same intuition would have explained Manav that what happened with her after he died. Instead of that she is judging him which is not correct. Cvs spoiled the story. 

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: S_ami

Here no one is saying that Sarabh has no right on Karan but he is wrong because the way they treating Manav is not correct. We can understand that Meher as a mother afraid of loosing her child. That doesn't mean that to keep her child with her she can question Karan's biological father. And taunt Manav that he is not capable of taking responsibility . How can she say that? Manav got new parents after Meher 'S mom killed him. Before that he himself raised up. He is more responsible than Meher because though he is orphan and no one was there for him to guide what should be life goal. His poverty and his self respect lead him to achieve a goal like clearing IAS exam. Before he achieve it he not went to ask Meher's hand for him from KK even though Meher's insistence.  That Meher herself told it before in earlier episodes. That means he knew his responsibility when to take. His mistake is that he loved her and believed her who told that love itself is  childish. I learnt one more time that childish love is also become god. 

In that case Meher is not responsible human being because she  broke her mother's, brother's trust for her childish love. Manav never forced himself on her. Whatever happened that happened with each others acceptance. Even knowing her pregnancy with his child happily accepted and was ready to take the responsibility never took his step back. In his place if some other guy who thinks just like Meher and has background like hers may have cheated her. 

And moreover no one should force any relationship on anyone to accept. Manav accepting his new parents because they saved his life. And his step father requested him to keep quiet for the sake of his wife. This show 'S how well behaved person he is. And also once learning that Meher is moved on he never forced her to come back. Meher cheated him hiding Karen's relationship he has with him. She knew that he got his memory back. It was her responsibility to inform and convince him what all happened has to accept it. How honestly she explained her past with Sarabh with the same intuition would have explained Manav that what happened with her after he died. Instead of that she is judging him which is not correct. Cvs spoiled the story. 

@bold - this is the crux of the whole thing.

Many people here are saying that Sarab has no rights on Karan and that is why I said that Sarab has the same rights.

Regarding them not treating Manav fairly then yes Meher was flawed in that part. The makers should have shown Meher having a proper conversation and getting him to  understand what all she went through for Karan. Then Sarab Meher and Manav could have find a common ground. Had she done that Manav wouldnt have moved on stunts like kidnapping and forcing her to give Karan to him. It is makers trick nothing more.  On one hand they are showing that Sarab is more than happy to let Manav be a part of Karan's life and involved him but then they show two sides fighting for karan.


To be frank both the characters of Manav and meher are butchered to an extent and the only one character who has been consistent is Sarabjeet.


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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Tvfanatic85

@bold - this is the crux of the whole thing.

Many people here are saying that Sarab has no rights on Karan and that is why I said that Sarab has the same rights.

Regarding them not treating Manav fairly then yes Meher was flawed in that part. The makers should have shown Meher having a proper conversation and getting him to  understand what all she went through for Karan. Then Sarab Meher and Manav could have find a common ground. Had she done that Manav wouldnt have moved on stunts like kidnapping and forcing her to give Karan to him. It is makers trick nothing more.  On one hand they are showing that Sarab is more than happy to let Manav be a part of Karan's life and involved him but then they show two sides fighting for karan.


To be frank both the characters of Manav and meher are butchered to an extent and the only one character who has been consistent is Sarabjeet.


Sarab has no rights. Karan has a father who is living and breathing and wants his son. That is what is so disgusting about the whole issue. How would “Saint” sarab feel if Param was kept away from him in the same way? Sarab is playing games with Manav too. Remember the scene where he tried to get Manav to sign for Karan and then asked what his real identity was? Sarab needs to put himself in Manavs shoes. So the characters that have been butchered are Sarab and selfish Meher. Sarab and Meher are not liked by so many people if you look on social media. 

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: ninag

Sarab has no rights. Karan has a father who is living and breathing and wants his son. That is what is so disgusting about the whole issue. How would “Saint” sarab feel if Param was kept away from him in the same way? Sarab is playing games with Manav too. Remember the scene where he tried to get Manav to sign for Karan and then asked what his real identity was? Sarab needs to put himself in Manavs shoes. So the characters that have been butchered are Sarab and selfish Meher. Sarab and Meher are not liked by so many people if you look on social media. 


Sarab did that as a very important question had to be asked to Manav that which identity he is choosing and how will he lead his next life. That was is answer to Manav pressurizing Meher to hand over Karan. 


Regarding Social media the people I follow like them so there will always be two sides supporting each party.


As for Sarab not having any rights lets just agree to disagree. 

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Posted: 3 years ago

Fact is Sarab is not Karans real father and he needs to remember that and stay within his limits. 

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Posted: 3 years ago

you said it s-ami what i wanted to say that is why i have stopped to watch the show and wu as well 

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Posted: 3 years ago

The whole story is looking like a crap now.

Did Manav got chance to be a father? No. His right was snatched away. His whole life was snatched.

Now Sarab can be the world ke best papa but ManV is his father. It is not that Manav is bad father. He risked his life to save Karan from fire once. 

Problem is not with Papa.............problem is with the WILD CHOTI Sardarni. She and her screwed up brain. She made her mom+bros  murderer , boyfrnd killed & lost his identity +marry a revengeful woman  & now forced to live someone else's life........

.now ended Sarab+co at  the footpath. She is the one who has no stable mind to raise two children. LOL  She is judging "papa" now............khud toh most confused one.

The makers r making this serial as ridiculous as possible.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: jhalak7

The whole story is looking like a crap now.

Did Manav got chance to be a father? No. His right was snatched away. His whole life was snatched.

Now Sarab can be the world ke best papa but ManV is his father. It is not that Manav is bad father. He risked his life to save Karan from fire once. 

Problem is not with Papa.............problem is with the WILD CHOTI Sardarni. She and her screwed up brain. She made her mom+bros  murderer , boyfrnd killed & lost his identity +marry a revengeful woman  & now forced to live someone else's life........

.now ended Sarab+co at  the footpath. She is the one who has no stable mind to raise two children. LOL  She is judging "papa" now............khud toh most confused one.

The makers r making this serial as ridiculous as possible.

it’s absolutely stupid now, which educated sensible man makes his family homeless. paupers and beggars..like Really...🤦🏻‍♀️. Just to give Sarab more screenspace and reduce Manavs screenspace..they are giving us this stupid story line. A custody battle would have been great..but no..we got this stupid story instead .🤦🏻‍♀️

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Posted: 3 years ago

Param and Karan need to be put up for adoption

their parents and adult role models are absolute,shit

Edited by silvermoonlight - 3 years ago