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Posted: 2 years ago

I think the reason Sarvadaman was so awkward as Krishna was that the direction was kind of bad too, and also such a long time period passed between the earlier Krishna episodes and the latter ones. When there's a break in a show, it's harder to get back in the groove comfortably, particularly when the direction of the show completely changes. Sarvadaman really was good as Golok Krishna/Vishnu. He had that serene smile and soft, lilting voice that people associate with the divine character, but the human Krishna requires a little something more...he needs that playful smirk, that naughtiness, that political charisma (that Swapnil excelled at) and the ability to carry off witty banter well. This is why SDB and even Vishal did well in this role, no matter the direction that StarB and Dwarakadheesh took.

Posted: 2 years ago

Imo, the roles also played a...role smiley36  Sarvadaman was good as a preacher, a lecturer, a narrator and an instructor, like when he'd sit and talk to the likes of Radha, Narada, Yogamaya, the devas and so on.  But those are not the same  qualities as that involved in someone who had great interpersonal skills, like Swapnil had.  Which is why I thought that Swapnil was great as Krishna and should have solely played that role, but Saravadaman could have made cameo Vishnu appearances.


Incidentally, when RSK resumed after Ananda and Moti took over, was Swapnil unavailable?  B'cos by then, he'd have grown some more and looked adequately adult enough to play Krishna, no?

Posted: 2 years ago

In ramand sagar shree krishna they have shown that aswathama  went to shree krishna and  ask shree krishna to give sudarshan chakra to him. Is it so.? 


And also they have showed that satybhama  donated Lord krishna to narad ji. Is this really happend? 

Posted: 2 years ago

^^^ Yeah, it's there in the Mahabharat, in Sauptika Parva.  But I don't recall Krishna saying yes, and then Ashwatthama being unable to sustain its weight, as they showed


The Tulabharam story was not there either in SB nor Mahabharat: it must have been from one of the regional folk stories

Edited by .Vrish. - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago

Oh I have posted my question in wrong thread by mistakes.I want to post my question in  doubt and discussion thread 

Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by .Vrish.


Imo, the roles also played a...role smiley36  Sarvadaman was good as a preacher, a lecturer, a narrator and an instructor, like when he'd sit and talk to the likes of Radha, Narada, Yogamaya, the devas and so on.  But those are not the same  qualities as that involved in someone who had great interpersonal skills, like Swapnil had.  Which is why I thought that Swapnil was great as Krishna and should have solely played that role, but Saravadaman could have made cameo Vishnu appearances.


Incidentally, when RSK resumed after Ananda and Moti took over, was Swapnil unavailable?  B'cos by then, he'd have grown some more and looked adequately adult enough to play Krishna, no?


I can't argue with that. It's always been a big beef with me that Swapnil didn't stay as Krishna for the entire show. You'll hear Lola and me lamenting this many a time. smiley36 Like you said, by the time the show resumed, Swapnil too would have grown and could have carried off the adult Krishna perfectly. It beats me why they didn't just keep him, but maybe it's because they already had a contract with SDB and couldn't back out, or maybe it just never occurred to them since Swapnil was always meant for only the young adult Krishna role. 

Lola and I had discussed this just a while back. We wish they'd at least have done a smoother transition between Swapnil and SDB. I don't know if you know this, but the original Varnavat and Dwaraka nirmaan episodes were filmed with Swapnil before the show took a hiatus, but when it resumed those episodes were reshot with SDB, so the transition between Swapnil and SDB looks so blotchy and abrupt, not at all smooth like all the other transitions between the younger Krishnas. 

We feel like a smoother transition would have been to keep the original Varnavat and Dwaraka nirmaan epis intact, complete the Dwaraka nirmaan with Swapnil and show some initial scenes of the Mathuravaasis settling down in their new home, and then show a time jump in which Krishna "grows up" a little and the SDB could enter the show officially for the Rukmini haran track.

Posted: 2 years ago

What had happened?

Why had the show stopped mid way

Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by FlauntPessimism


What had happened?

Why had the show stopped mid way


Lol I have a PhD in this subject derived from loooots of articles, interviews, and Twitter conversations, so please allow me to bore you with the details smiley36 When Uttar Ramayan began, Ramanand Sagar got pulled into a looooot of court cases over what he did/didn't portray, and there was also a lot of political tension around airing "religious" content on a national channel. This was both financially draining and made it hard to get Shri Krishna on air even though RS had already begun working on it during Uttar Ramayan. So with the Dashavataar through VD's imprisonment pretty much ready in '89, they decided to start the show as straight-to-VHS and funded its continuation through preorders for the set (which was advertised as 26 volumes just because that's how many cassettes it took to cover Ramayan so they assumed they'd do the same). This went on from '90-92, with them sending subscribers an episode or two a month up until the phase in which Krishna is bound to the pillar and uproots the two trees. Then, by popular demand, Doordarshan lifted its ban on mythos and picked up the show in '93, but they put in on DD Metro/DD2 instead of DD National which reached only urban markets. This went on up until the Swapnil version of the Dwarika nirmaan track in '95, by which time the political environment and the channel's strategy changed so they decided to move it to DD National. BUT, since rural markets hadn't seen the show up to that point, there was demand to start it over from the beginning. By the time they reached the point where they had left off on DD Metro, RS had suffered health setbacks, Swapnil started his LL.B., and the junior Sagars had started working on a bunch of other shows which stretched the budget and led to them leaving the day to day execution of SK in wayyy lesser hands, hence the drop in quality (which keeps me from watching any of those later episodes to date). When the show hit 180 episodes (or something in that range), it hit DD's limit on how long they would air the same series, so it took another hiatus before it got kicked over to Zee TV for its final stretch (leading to another decline in the look and feel for those last 40-50 episodes). 

Knowing all of this has given me a bit of appreciation for the tenacity and perseverance that went into getting this show on air and overcoming obstacles to keep it going as long as it did, covering as much ground as it did, but as Janu said above--there will always be that sadness over what SK could have been, had it continued with the same leadership, cast, crew, care, and aesthetic that it had until the original end of Swapnil's run.

Edited by MagadhSundari - 2 years ago

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