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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: cassiop

Exaxtly my thoughts Charu.. jab koi cheez is working for CVs (I fail to understand why) to fir CVs ko mehnat hi kyu kare..

Its simple for the cvs..arz kiya hai


Ek chumma tu anupre ka de de

Aur badle mein 6 mahine ki trp le le


They will give chummi after 6 months and we will go aaawww what great chemistry...and we cant stop watching in the wait of the next one...but kzk2 cvs r kamaal.. chumma chodo sindoor se neeche nai aata koi..hence the chappad phaad trps ...🤣



@Sanjana, you are so right..as a couple fan and me as a solo fan, we expect better writing ..it pains to watch parth mouthing ridiculous dialogues like ma behen nahi hai So acc to him , how are those people wrong and what is he with prerna and with his wife komo? And why cant prerna just reveal the truth to her family or his family ?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The writing of this show has always, ALWAYS been made fun of in this forum by EVERYONE from day one. BUT what has clicked for those who have stuck to this show from the very beginning till now is Parica as Anupre. Not because their scenes are written even half decently...BUT because Parica makes it work SOMEHOW what ever is given to them most of the time and it translates into audience appreciation.


If Anupre the couple does not appeal to some when they were at their peak best during NB track, what are some of you expecting to see from this show currently I have no idea. Why continue to watch a shoddily written show when there is nothing that looks good for you is something to think about really seriously at this point because it can't be good for your over all psyche being involved in this for so long. Maybe it would be better to wait for Bajaj to come back or another new character that would appeal to you than crib continuously about the writing which nobody is denying is bad.


And please stop insulting us TRP aunties as if we would keep watching a show for the drama value that looks like and smells like gobar. Yes romance too does appeal to us and Anupre is the ONLY thing that keeps us watching this because of Parica. Its not rocket science to figure out what could be making people watch this show despite everything.

I mean I don't like Scarlet Johansen, but I am not going to deny a large majority of people find her very beautiful just because I don't.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope4u

See im not talking about individual POVs and definitions because individual opinions cannot become the gauge for defining something as quantitative as trps. The trp last week was 2.2. That cannot change according to my individual perception. Similarly, 2.3, 2.5, and 3 are trps more than 2.2 while 2.1, 2, 1.9 and 1.8 are lesser are also facts, not subject to perceptions. Fair enough?

You may not be talking about individual POVs but I am and that individual is me. And I always will be talking about my own POV, interpretations, understanding and observations. TRPs 2.3, 2.5 and 3 are for sure are you saying Komolika 1 who lead show to 3 the highest ever for the show was logical? And another fact is there that post Komo1 and end of last track ratings took a deep dive.

Right so combining that with your observations regarding what gets trps, let's talk about that. See, no one can deny that the show was always illogical. I will go a step further and say itv, in its very nature of daily dramas, survives by showing illogical things. Now let us not even indulge in a discussion of what is more illogical, because as I already said that's upto individual perception.

I just expressed an observation in simplest of words that illogical stuff is gaining more ratings. So even if its the nature of ITV, is it wrong to mention it? You and I have different experience with ITV, so may be you have seen worse than we currently see in KZK, but why should that stop me or any individual to say what they want to say about KZK. I would not like to blv that when show was launched viewers were expecting something like this just because ITV works like that.

So without bringing that in, when you say that illogical tracks bring trps, it's impossible to quantitatively judge that because simply put in the small pool of audience that is this forum, the perception of what is most illogical and therefore highest trp gainer will differ. How then, can that be used to judge a pool as wide as a pan india trp audience? How can we say that the more illogical the track, the more the trps, when we among the 200 or so members in this forum ourselves cannot reach a consensus on WHAT qualifies as MOST illogical?

I mentioned TV trps so what made you think I wasn't talking about pan India viwers but 200 members of this forum? If you could help me understand that connection coz m not sure where this came from.

@bold- you have reversed what I actually said and that changes the whole meaning. I did not say track has to be illigical to get higher ratings. I said illogical tracks seems to be getting more trps. The crazier the fight between Komolika and Prerna got higher ratings were fetched. So there is a difference in what I said and how you've mentioned it above.

As far as consensus is concerned we may not reach a consensus ever but we can still share and exchange views.

Now let's look as some other facts.

This show is a love story of two individuals who are destined to never meet, as advertised by the PH. They are the lead couple of the show : fact

There are principle negative characters, or kasautii's which keep coming and going in their lives, each of which separate them: fact.

Now when you put these two facts together with a quantitatively definable trp, things become more interesting and easier to understand. That is to stay, the trps are the highest when the story revolves around the lead couple and there's enough drama (illogical for sure) AROUND them and ABOUT them. Not the ML or the FL alone, but them as a couple.

Okay this is where we are on different route to reach same destination. To you it looks like it is around and about lead couple figting illogical fight (we both agree its illogical) against villian, Komolika in this case. To me I only see Komolika and Prerna on screen, with a few scenes of lead couple here and there to keep this notion alive that we do have a lovestory somewhere. And both of us are neither right nor wrong. Just our ways of looking at things are different.

Irrespective of whether or not they hold hands or make gooey eyes at each other in a particular episode or episodes. And also then, it's not upto individual observations, opinions and perceptions, because comparing major tracks of the show till date with the average trps during their course, it basically speaks for itself.

@underline- i don't think I understood this particular part very well.

All I can say data is just data.. it becomes meaningful when its read and put as information.. it has several ways to be interpretated. A lot of information can be deduced from same pc of data. Every individual will have a different take so its always open to discussions.

Maybe this way, we can all stop peddling individual opinions as the law of the land and lay this trp debate to rest once and for all.

I think as long as we are civil in expressing our views let the individual views coming in. Because that's what the base of any open forum is. So let the Meaningful debate continue and learn more.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope4u


But this observation does not explain why the highly illogical track of a man marrying a woman he knows nothing about just because his daughter met her twice and liked her, and the even more highly illogical track of a man moving his entire family into his current wife's ex boyfriends house did not fetch trps?🤔Since illogical=trps, that should've fetched trps.

So looks like it's just the audience's preference there. Or maybe there must be a special reason only for that track.

Content was never great. That's the only constant. It's just people who watch it inspite of shoddy content for their preference. Only difference is that some accept it, whereas others pretend. 🤷‍♀️

I think (not sure) that people like the leading ladies to be strong. And, lady vs lady track fetches higher TRPs, than guy vs guy. 😆 The direct competitor of KZK on another channel, had the lady vamp vs heroine a few months ago, and then villain vs hero + heroine - which did not fetch as high ratings as the other. Or maybe, during the latter track KZK had and still has Komo/Sona so some audiences switched to KZK.

I really want to see the ratings in the coming weeks though, coz both shows now have sautan vs sautan. 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

Its simple for the cvs..arz kiya hai


Ek chumma tu anupre ka de de

Aur badle mein 6 mahine ki trp le le

Arey Charu aaj aapne Arz kia.. waah wahh...


They will give chummi after 6 months and we will go aaawww what great chemistry...and we cant stop watching in the wait of the next one...but kzk2 cvs r kamaal.. chumma chodo sindoor se neeche nai aata koi..hence the chappad phaad trps ...🤣

Ever since I started the show, I have only seen them apart, so never seen any chemistry. I am bit releived CVs have saved us the flying dupatta and sindoor for sometime, thanks to Komolika crazy plans.. so ek crazy se bache..dusre mein phase situation it is. sometimes I do feel how frustrating it would have been if I were madly in love with any character of the show sply Leads.


@Sanjana, you are so right..as a couple fan and me as a solo fan, we expect better writing ..it pains to watch parth mouthing ridiculous dialogues like ma behen nahi hai So acc to him , how are those people wrong and what is he with prerna and with his wife komo? And why cant prerna just reveal the truth to her family or his family ?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SheAish

The writing of this show has always, ALWAYS been made fun of in this forum by EVERYONE from day one. BUT what has clicked for those who have stuck to this show from the very beginning till now is Parica as Anupre. Not because their scenes are written even half decently...BUT because Parica makes it work SOMEHOW what ever is given to them most of the time and it translates into audience appreciation.


If Anupre the couple does not appeal to some when they were at their peak best during NB track, what are some of you expecting to see from this show currently I have no idea. Why continue to watch a shoddily written show when there is nothing that looks good for you is something to think about really seriously at this point because it can't be good for your over all psyche being involved in this for so long. Maybe it would be better to wait for Bajaj to come back or another new character that would appeal to you than crib continuously about the writing which nobody is denying is bad.


And please stop insulting us TRP aunties as if we would keep watching a show for the drama value that looks like and smells like gobar. Yes romance too does appeal to us and Anupre is the ONLY thing that keeps us watching this because of Parica. Its not rocket science to figure out what could be making people watch this show despite everything.

I mean I don't like Scarlet Johansen, but I am not going to deny a large majority of people find her very beautiful just because I don't.

It's actually rocket science for me since I dont understand how bad writing translates into great anupre ...when the writing is bad how can anupre be good? Just accept that you like the writing bec anupre are not doing their own thing , mouthing their own dialogues and romancing on screen..they are made to do this which comes through writing only...accept it has always been good to keep you glued.



Plz stop insulting the people who care to watch the crap show for their favourites yet have the courage to be honest about their work and the pathetic writing ......like you just said my dear, everybody's perception is different so why so surprised that someone may not like them? ..it works both ways.....everyone has their reasons for watching it n it's the same...yours parica and mine parth...



anupre is very different from parica as parica r just 2 individuals who look good off screen but I guess that trp aunties JUST want to LOOK at 2 good faces and how they touch and feel each other or see each other and not bother about WHAT they do on screen? How bad they are being portrayed on screen may be they dont care ? I guess nothing else could explain the high trps , that's what I said in my prev post ? As per you writing was always bad isnt it ? What else is left ? How they look? How they touch? How they kiss? How they hug? Arent you watching all the crap to watch their love story ? Calling it crap and watching also? .I am doing the same...only diff is I am not watching for love story I am watching to watch my fav actor therr...you and I are the trp audience.. ...Is there a precondition to like the "couple only" to continue watching the crap? I praised him when I liked him, I didnt when I didnt like him . Period..rest of the cast and characters and the writing and the cvs are collateral damage so I will continue to say what I genuinely feel about it ..till the time parth is there



Trp discussions are too vague and done only to mock and fight. Nobody is aware of the facts ..but it's the benchmark . So yes , trp aunties will always be in the picture..n I am one of them..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

It's actually rocket science for me since I dont understand how bad writing translates into great anupre ...when the writing is bad how can anupre be good? Just accept that you like the writing bec anupre are not doing their own thing , mouthing their own dialogues and romancing on screen..they are made to do this which comes through writing only...accept it has always been good to keep you glued.



Plz stop insulting the people who care to watch the crap show for their favou9ùrites yet have the courage to be honest about their work and the pathetic writing ......like you just said my dear, everybody's perception is different so why so surprised that someone may not like them? ..it works both ways.....everyone has their reasons for watching it n it's the same...yours parica and mine parth...



anupre is very different from parica as parica r just 2 individuals who look good off screen but I guess that trp aunties JUST want to LOOK at 2 good faces and how they touch and feel each other or see each other and not bother about WHAT they do on screen? How bad they are being portrayed on screen may be they dont care ? I guess nothing else could explain the high trps , that's what I said in my prev post ? As per you writing was always bad isnt it ? What else is left ? How they look? How they touch? How they kiss? How they hug? Arent you watching all the crap to watch their love story ? Calling it crap and watching also? .I am doing the same...only diff is I am not watching for love story I am watching to watch my fav actor therr...you and I are the trp audience.. ...Is there a precondition to like the "couple only" to continue watching the crap? I praised him when I liked him, I didnt when I didnt like him . Period..rest of the cast and characters and the writing and the cvs are collateral damage so I will continue to say what I genuinely feel about it ..till the time parth is there



Trp discussions are too vague and done only to mock and fight. Nobody is aware of the facts ..but it's the benchmark . So yes , trp aunties will always be in the picture..n I am one of them..

Charu I have read your post thrice 😊

I can say am yet to come across anyone who is so clear about their thought process and expresses it with same clarity. That makes your post even more lovable and interesting 🤗

We all have different reasons to watch the show and I dont think anyone of us needs to give an explanation or justification for watching it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

It's actually rocket science for me since I dont understand how bad writing translates into great anupre ...when the writing is bad how can anupre be good? Just accept that you like the writing bec anupre are not doing their own thing , mouthing their own dialogues and romancing on screen..they are made to do this which comes through writing only...accept it has always been good to keep you glued.



Plz stop insulting the people who care to watch the crap show for their favourites yet have the courage to be honest about their work and the pathetic writing ......like you just said my dear, everybody's perception is different so why so surprised that someone may not like them? ..it works both ways.....everyone has their reasons for watching it n it's the same...yours parica and mine parth...



anupre is very different from parica as parica r just 2 individuals who look good off screen but I guess that trp aunties JUST want to LOOK at 2 good faces and how they touch and feel each other or see each other and not bother about WHAT they do on screen? How bad they are being portrayed on screen may be they dont care ? I guess nothing else could explain the high trps , that's what I said in my prev post ? As per you writing was always bad isnt it ? What else is left ? How they look? How they touch? How they kiss? How they hug? Arent you watching all the crap to watch their love story ? Calling it crap and watching also? .I am doing the same...only diff is I am not watching for love story I am watching to watch my fav actor therr...you and I are the trp audience.. ...Is there a precondition to like the "couple only" to continue watching the crap? I praised him when I liked him, I didnt when I didnt like him . Period..rest of the cast and characters and the writing and the cvs are collateral damage so I will continue to say what I genuinely feel about it ..till the time parth is there



Trp discussions are too vague and done only to mock and fight. Nobody is aware of the facts ..but it's the benchmark . So yes , trp aunties will always be in the picture..n I am one of them..


OK behen. Nvm. If you insist that despite XVZ being always there along with the bad writing but still somehow the show went down hill when they started to show one half of Anupre move away from showing their love for each other has NOTHING to do with Anupre then so be it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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See the difference between us is that I am watching the show because I find Parth excellent most of the time as Anurag, I love the character Anurag and Parica as Anupre looks great to me. I'm watching something I LIKE or LOVE.

You say you are watching this for Parth, whose character you find pathetic, whose story with the FL you find boring and many times you've mentioned you find even his acting average majority of the time in this show....

We've all agreed the drama as a whole is BS, so excuse me if I find it hard to believe that those people who are watching and contributing to the TPRs are like you, .....watching something they just don't like at all just because they like an actor or that they like the drama which btw is not different from all the other shows, except its worse. I'm just not convinced most of the TRP audiance are crazy fan girls of an actor to torture themselves for more than a year when nothing looks good on the show.


So I'll agree to disagree with you.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SheAish


See the difference between us is that I am watching the show because I find Parth excellent most of the time as Anurag, I love the character Anurag and Parica as Anupre looks great to me. I'm watching something I LIKE or LOVE.

You say you are watching this for Parth, whose character you find pathetic, whose story with the FL you find boring and many times you've mentioned you find even his acting average majority of the time in this show....

We've all agreed the drama as a whole is BS, so excuse me if I find it hard to believe that those people who are watching and contributing to the TPRs are like you, .....watching something they just don't like at all just because they like an actor or that they like the drama which btw is not different from all the other shows, except its worse. I'm just not convinced most of the TRP audiance are crazy fan girls of an actor to torture themselves for more than a year when nothing looks good on the show.


So I'll agree to disagree with you.

Yes. Now its clear...


I am sure you also dont find parica or anupre great in most of the scenes but still you are watching right? In the HOPE to see something better? Because previously they were ? I also HOPE to see a better anurag hence I am not giving up . N plz dont assume that I dont like "anything ", I like all actors except erica..I like all characters except prerna..and currently I like aamna/sona more than parth. I loved him till the end of bajaj track n then I couldn't bear to watch him



Absolutely , we all r trp audience, I have seen many shows till the end which I liked only for 6 months ..all trp audience dont care much about the story but daily entertainment n my entertainment is komo and the comedy which comes out of illogical writing.

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