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Posted: 4 years ago

How come it's so one sided and biased 

They say no alimony when divorced ..

And according to law no alimony pre nups r invalid 

Also agreement should be signed between bride and groom not bride and FIL lol 


Makers just claiming realistic is not enough ..just follow simple basics and should not do blunders when intro concept like prenups 




FL is acting like parvathi ..she is no more Sona 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

How come it's so one sided and biased 

They say no alimony when divorced ..

And they want sona to discontinue her work 

They will give her 1 lakh per month ..when she is married 

How can a gal with an ounce of self respect agree to this 

She should ruin her career and when divorced she should beg in streets ??? With no alimony and no career ..


Isn't it so demeaning ...i.e what the hell how can any gal agree to this 

Script writers have gone mad ..do they want to insult women by making Sona sign to this freaking agreement 

Even in ekta show I never saw this kind of demeaning agreement to women ..

FL is acting like parvathi ..she is no more Sona 

On top of that she made a big hungama .no secrets to Rohit on a silly issue 

Why is she keeping this as a secret from Rohit 

Arey it does not say she will not work. 

Also Sona cut that 100000 ka clause. 

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Posted: 4 years ago

But I read it in Google 




Prenuptial Agreements in India- An OverviewPrenuptial Agreements in India- An OverviewA prenuptial agreement or premarital agreement or ante nuptial agreement is an agreement or a contract that is signed by the couple who intends to get married or is soon ready to tie the knot or stay together in the form of a civil union. Also abbreviated as prenupt or prenup, this formally written agreement is a signed, registered, recognized and notarized contract/document that includes provisions pertaining to distribution or division of assets, liabilities and property post separation of couple or spousal support in case of child custody, maintenance or alimony. The document also comprises of terms and conditions for forfeiture of assets on the basis of adultery, conditions of guardianship post dissolution of marriage, etc. The contents of pre nuptial agreement are subject to change and vary at any point of time. The concept of prenuptial agreements is popular in European Countries, Canada, Italy, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. 

A prenuptial agreement can be enforced if it fulfills the following conditions:

  • The agreement or contract should be clear, fair, voluntary, mutually signed and in writing. 
  • The agreement or contract must be signed and executed before marriage. 
  • The agreement or contract must not be developed in a way wherein either of the parties is forced, pressurized, coerced, beaten, etc. 
  • The agreement or contract should be certified and notarized. 
  • The agreement or contract should comprise of a particular clause which mentions that irrespective of any provision being an invalid one, yet the agreement will be valid and be in force. 
  • The agreement or contract should list all the assets, liabilities, financial possessions, etc owned by both husband and wife. 
  • The agreement or contract should not have any information that is invalid, false or fake. 
  • The agreement or contract should comprise of all the provisions.

Legal position on the enforceability of prenuptial agreements in India

Prenuptial agreements are not valid and legal in the eyes of Indian Law because as per marriage laws in India, a marriage is not considered as a contract. The institution of marriage is considered to be pious, sacred and a religious bond between two persons i.e. husband and wife who have decided to stay together till eternity. The Indian Contract Act, 1872 does not consider such agreements or contracts with respect to marriage or wherein marriage is taken into consideration. 

Objective behind making a prenuptial agreement in India

The following are the objectives behind drafting a prenuptial agreement:

  • The prenuptial agreement considers both husband and wife as equal. Hence, it prepares both the parties to furnish their financial assets, liabilities, possessions, etc… before getting married and further prevent them from getting into legal hassles that might occur in case of divorce, mutual separation, child custody, child maintenance, alimony, etc. 
  • Generally, most of the alimony laws support women spouses and forget to consider the financial situation of male spouse. As a result, the financial decisions tend to get biased and ultimately the male spouse suffers. However, in case of prenuptial agreements, the financial status of both the spouses is clear and hence there will be an equal flow of money post separation. 
  • Prenuptial agreements prevent male spouses from any sort of abuse caused by female spouse in lieu of seeking maintenance post separation. 
  • Prenuptial agreements encourage transparency and furnish the real financial positions of both the parties wherein there is no chance of any fraud. 

Important provisions which a prenuptial agreement should contain

The following are the key provisions that must be stated by both the parties in the prenuptial agreement:

  • Disclosure of assets and liabilities 
  • Financial or monetary state 
  • Ownership of property or real estate 
  • Estate planning 
  • Alimony, spousal support or maintenance and child custody & maintenance 
  • Financial state of business, partnership rights in business
  • Monetary savings 
  • Life insurance, medical insurance, claims 
  • Credit card limits, debts, spending, payments 
  • Financial investments 
  • Management of bank accounts or joint accounts 
  • Management of household expenses, bills, etc
  • Retirement benefits and accounts 
  • Division of property 
  • Gifts in the form of jewellery, engagement ring, precious bands, art, etc 

Advantages of Prenuptial agreements in India

 The following are the advantages of prenuptial agreement:

  • Prenuptial agreements facilitate the process of seeking maintenance speedily and also prevent the parties from spending exorbitant fees of advocates. 
  • The agreement or contract protects both the parties from each other’s debts. 
  • Both the parties are financially secured even in situations where in either of the spouses passes away. 
  • The agreement or contract protects and secures the child’s future even if both the parties decide to go for divorce or mutual separation. 
  • Women tend to give up their careers after marriage and decide to focus only on raising their family well. But this agreement financially secures the future of women.
  • Prenuptial agreement guaranteed custodial issues and remarriage rights.
  • The agreement prevents the business from getting divided.
  • The agreement ensures spousal support, maintenance and alimony. 
  • The agreements prevent couples from facing embarrassing situations in court proceedings and simplify the process of separation for both the parties. 
  • The prenuptial agreement reduces conflicts between both the parties. 

Disadvantages of Prenuptial agreement in India

The following are the disadvantages of prenuptial agreement:

  • Deciding to go for a prenuptial agreement is a difficult and complex step for both the parties.
  • The agreement implies that the couples do not envision the marriage to last forever. 
  • The agreement can adversely impact life of both the parties post marriage. 
  • The agreement can enhance the importance of money than the thought of living together for both the parties. 
  • The agreement can adversely impact the lifestyle of both the parties. 

Provisions in a prenuptial agreement that can be over ruled by the courts

The following are the provisions in a prenuptial agreement that can be rejected or over ruled by courts in India:

  • Agreements that promote or encourage divorce/separation. 
  • Mention of spousal waivers 
  • Waivers of counsel fees, temporary alimony and permanent alimony 
  • Agreements that do not support child custody, child support and maintenance 
  • Regulation of conduct during marriage 
  • Agreements that mention religious upbringing of children
  • Enforceability of no child provisions 
  • Limiting the grounds for divorce
  • Agreement comprising of provisions requiring the spouses to marry
  • Severability 

Under the above conditions prenuptial is termed to be invalid even if signed by two parties ..

Clearly this NO  alimony is  clashing with the  4 th clause 

So govt itself not agreeing to biased pre nuptials 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Yeh sab kahaan hogaya.. 

Free advice lena hai toh lo.. Warna jaane do..😂🤣

 Yeh segments dekhne se kuch nahi bas apna excitement (if anything romantic) ya gussa (if smthg against ronakshi happens) sirf badhta aur saara suspense chala jaate hai... 

I know we cannot just stop suddenly... But kam toh ho sakta hai.. Right... Let the makers do whatever they want and we will see how the story proceeds nd when should we stop watching it ( though I don't want them to ruin it and we are forced to stop watching.. But we can't help certain things) 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

 

Under the above conditions prenuptial is termed to be invalid even if signed by two parties ..

Clearly this NO  alimony is  clashing with the  4 th clause 

So govt itself not agreeing to biased pre nuptials 

Agar humare TV serials mein law ko sahi se dikhate toh baat hi kya hoti... We should not expect so much from a fictional show... How much ever different it is.. (I feel so) 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Based on at least what was shown so far, I have a question. From what I know of a prenup agreement, it is "an agreement made by a couple before they marry concerning the ownership of their respective assets should the marriage fail." In the agreement that was given to Sona it says "PRENUPTIAL AGREEMENT of SONAKSHI RASTOGI and NAREEN SIPPY". 😲😲😡

Seriously??? How can makers make such a blunder? 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: TV_kobold

Based on at least what was shown so far, I have a question. From what I know of a prenup agreement, it is "an agreement made by a couple before they marry concerning the ownership of their respective assets should the marriage fail." In the agreement that was given to Sona it says "PRENUPTIAL AGREEMENT of SONAKSHI RASTOGI and NAREEN SIPPY". 😲😲😡

Seriously??? How can makers make such a blunder? 🤣

Lol prenuptial is valid only if signed by bride and groom ..it's so clear in law 

Also law says ..no alimony prenuptials r biased and court will strike them off 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: sohit-mishbir

Agar humare TV serials mein law ko sahi se dikhate toh baat hi kya hoti... We should not expect so much from a fictional show... How much ever different it is.. (I feel so) 

But such a blunder ..is not pardonable ..i.e any agreement should be signed between bride and groom ..that's basic ..right basic common sense 

Prenuptial agreements won't be between bride and FIL or bride and MIL ..what a joke they r making 

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Posted: 4 years ago

I am a practicing Lawyer and prenupts are not enforceable at law in India. In laymen's terms they are as good as raddi ka kagaz. No show that shows prenupts in India is logical. 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Bold and red is the real position of prenupts in the eyes of law. (Nill bata sannata. Prenup bhartiya kanoon mein koi nmanyata nahi rakhta.

The only prenupt valid if you can call it that is nikahnama ....


Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

But I read it in Google 




Prenuptial Agreements in India- An OverviewPrenuptial Agreements in India- An OverviewA prenuptial agreement or premarital agreement or ante nuptial agreement is an agreement or a contract that is signed by the couple who intends to get married or is soon ready to tie the knot or stay together in the form of a civil union. Also abbreviated as prenupt or prenup, this formally written agreement is a signed, registered, recognized and notarized contract/document that includes provisions pertaining to distribution or division of assets, liabilities and property post separation of couple or spousal support in case of child custody, maintenance or alimony. The document also comprises of terms and conditions for forfeiture of assets on the basis of adultery, conditions of guardianship post dissolution of marriage, etc. The contents of pre nuptial agreement are subject to change and vary at any point of time. The concept of prenuptial agreements is popular in European Countries, Canada, Italy, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. 

A prenuptial agreement can be enforced if it fulfills the following conditions:

  • The agreement or contract should be clear, fair, voluntary, mutually signed and in writing. 
  • The agreement or contract must be signed and executed before marriage. 
  • The agreement or contract must not be developed in a way wherein either of the parties is forced, pressurized, coerced, beaten, etc. 
  • The agreement or contract should be certified and notarized. 
  • The agreement or contract should comprise of a particular clause which mentions that irrespective of any provision being an invalid one, yet the agreement will be valid and be in force. 
  • The agreement or contract should list all the assets, liabilities, financial possessions, etc owned by both husband and wife. 
  • The agreement or contract should not have any information that is invalid, false or fake. 
  • The agreement or contract should comprise of all the provisions.

Legal position on the enforceability of prenuptial agreements in India

Prenuptial agreements are not valid and legal in the eyes of Indian Law because as per marriage laws in India, a marriage is not considered as a contract. The institution of marriage is considered to be pious, sacred and a religious bond between two persons i.e. husband and wife who have decided to stay together till eternity. The Indian Contract Act, 1872 does not consider such agreements or contracts with respect to marriage or wherein marriage is taken into consideration. 

Objective behind making a prenuptial agreement in India

The following are the objectives behind drafting a prenuptial agreement:

  • The prenuptial agreement considers both husband and wife as equal. Hence, it prepares both the parties to furnish their financial assets, liabilities, possessions, etc… before getting married and further prevent them from getting into legal hassles that might occur in case of divorce, mutual separation, child custody, child maintenance, alimony, etc. 
  • Generally, most of the alimony laws support women spouses and forget to consider the financial situation of male spouse. As a result, the financial decisions tend to get biased and ultimately the male spouse suffers. However, in case of prenuptial agreements, the financial status of both the spouses is clear and hence there will be an equal flow of money post separation. 
  • Prenuptial agreements prevent male spouses from any sort of abuse caused by female spouse in lieu of seeking maintenance post separation. 
  • Prenuptial agreements encourage transparency and furnish the real financial positions of both the parties wherein there is no chance of any fraud. 

Important provisions which a prenuptial agreement should contain

The following are the key provisions that must be stated by both the parties in the prenuptial agreement:

  • Disclosure of assets and liabilities 
  • Financial or monetary state 
  • Ownership of property or real estate 
  • Estate planning 
  • Alimony, spousal support or maintenance and child custody & maintenance 
  • Financial state of business, partnership rights in business
  • Monetary savings 
  • Life insurance, medical insurance, claims 
  • Credit card limits, debts, spending, payments 
  • Financial investments 
  • Management of bank accounts or joint accounts 
  • Management of household expenses, bills, etc
  • Retirement benefits and accounts 
  • Division of property 
  • Gifts in the form of jewellery, engagement ring, precious bands, art, etc 

Advantages of Prenuptial agreements in India

 The following are the advantages of prenuptial agreement:

  • Prenuptial agreements facilitate the process of seeking maintenance speedily and also prevent the parties from spending exorbitant fees of advocates. 
  • The agreement or contract protects both the parties from each other’s debts. 
  • Both the parties are financially secured even in situations where in either of the spouses passes away. 
  • The agreement or contract protects and secures the child’s future even if both the parties decide to go for divorce or mutual separation. 
  • Women tend to give up their careers after marriage and decide to focus only on raising their family well. But this agreement financially secures the future of women.
  • Prenuptial agreement guaranteed custodial issues and remarriage rights.
  • The agreement prevents the business from getting divided.
  • The agreement ensures spousal support, maintenance and alimony. 
  • The agreements prevent couples from facing embarrassing situations in court proceedings and simplify the process of separation for both the parties. 
  • The prenuptial agreement reduces conflicts between both the parties. 

Disadvantages of Prenuptial agreement in India

The following are the disadvantages of prenuptial agreement:

  • Deciding to go for a prenuptial agreement is a difficult and complex step for both the parties.
  • The agreement implies that the couples do not envision the marriage to last forever. 
  • The agreement can adversely impact life of both the parties post marriage. 
  • The agreement can enhance the importance of money than the thought of living together for both the parties. 
  • The agreement can adversely impact the lifestyle of both the parties. 

Provisions in a prenuptial agreement that can be over ruled by the courts

The following are the provisions in a prenuptial agreement that can be rejected or over ruled by courts in India:

  • Agreements that promote or encourage divorce/separation. 
  • Mention of spousal waivers 
  • Waivers of counsel fees, temporary alimony and permanent alimony 
  • Agreements that do not support child custody, child support and maintenance 
  • Regulation of conduct during marriage 
  • Agreements that mention religious upbringing of children
  • Enforceability of no child provisions 
  • Limiting the grounds for divorce
  • Agreement comprising of provisions requiring the spouses to marry
  • Severability 

Under the above conditions prenuptial is termed to be invalid even if signed by two parties ..

Clearly this NO  alimony is  clashing with the  4 th clause 

So govt itself not agreeing to biased pre nuptials