Sep 4 : Blind or Stupid or Both? + New Promo(Page 2)

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by fria319


Not going to full quote whole post, but my reactions: 

"  Shaira asks Noor to shut up. Noor continues with her drama 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ such a shameless woman, it is a different thing when one boasts after getting some action but dude, there's no chance of your dry spell ending in near future. You are dependent on mercy of your "Husband's" first wife to get laid, like SHUT UP!!  🙄🙄 " 

smiley37smiley37smiley37smiley37 TRUTH. 


"Blind, Stupid or Both was the question for Shaira. Is she blind that she can't see what Noor's demand has done to Razia? Does she realize what Razia went through when her only son, the reason she lives was trying to kill himself for her? All she can think about is that pathetic leech Yasmin and her daughter. What about her love for Azaan? What about her duties as a wife? What about her duties as Bahu Begum? Is she trying to be Yasmin's daughter in true sense being Noor's servant, following her orders, giving Noor everything Noor wants, who the fu©k is Noor to Shaira?

Is she stupid enough not to see that Noor is not good for this house?" 


I don't understand Shaira either. It was ok maybe in the beginning of this arc for her to be dumb / blind to Noor's negative effect on the family.  However, Shaira, based on her responses to Noor, can see her negativity now. She definitely sees how she's hurting Razia & Azaan by making them make this choice, is her guilt that overpowering? How can it be when she barely knew Yasmeen? Did Razia also not treat her as a daughter? Does Azaan also not treat her well? Did they not also provide her a home, a family? Why are promises made to them not valid enough, or not worthy enough for Shaira to keep? Shouldn't she be standing with the righteous? 


" Why should Azaan go through a woman trying to touch him without his consent? Isn't he a human? He has as much right on his body as any woman, when Khalid touched Noor, it was molestation and when Noor is forcing herself on a man who is not interested, it is seduction and a game? 

Isn't Azaan's dignity as much important as Noor or Shaira's dignity? It is very disturbing that he is being forced to share a room and tolerate uninvited advances from Noor. 

Why should Azaan go through a woman trying to touch him without his consent? Isn't he a human? He has as much right on his body as any woman, when Khalid touched Noor, it was molestation and when Noor is forcing herself on a man who is not interested, it is seduction and a game? 

Isn't Azaan's dignity as much important as Noor or Shaira's dignity? It is very disturbing that he is being forced to share a room and tolerate uninvited advances from Noor.  " 


I don't understand this either. So much uproar over what Khalid "did" to Noor ( I still maintain it was insensitive manhandling, not a molestation for sexual desire), but just because Noor and Azaan are now married, its still ok?  

I really just have no idea why everyone is heeding to Noor's wishes... She has no dirt on them. What can she do to them?  Press charges against Shaira? Don't they need real evidence that she started the fire? All they had to accuse Shaira was her insistence that she was last in the kitchen. How the heck would that even hold up in real court as evidence towards Sharia's guilt? It doesn't. There's no real evidence linking her to the fire. 

Actually, to this day, I don't know why Azaan agreed to marry Noor... FOr me, there's no logical reason behind it.  He was not backed into a corner like the showrunners want us to believe. 

Shaira asked him to yes, but why did he listen to her? Forget that this is the story of the show so the writers had to make it happen.  Characterwise - what was the point. Shaira is not "with" him now anyway. He was going to "lose" Shaira in both situations. Why is this situation any better? He gave her a promise while she was 'fighting for her life', ok, sure, but now, take back your promise. Why did that promise need to be fulfilled. 

Azaan gave Shaira, a home and a family. It sucks that she can't see how he must be hurting due to her actions. She made a promise to Noor and didn't convince Noor to take her promise back but she is going to convince Azaan into divorcing her.

Shaira saw Razia begging Noor to take her promise back, she saw what Razia is going through, she can see that Azaan is living a nightmare but all she cares about is that Noor should get a bedroom, Noor should get a husband on her bed, I am surprised she didn't arrange contraception for Noor or painkiller for after effects. 

Do writers really see good positive women like this? A good religious woman should readily share her husband, I am trying very hard to make sense of Shaira's character arc but the only thing I can think of is that Shaira is a lesbian and in love with Noor. She wants to see her love happy at any cost. If she is in love with Noor then why she keeps telling Azaan that she loves him? I can see Shaira fighting for Noor's happiness, she gave up her happiness for her, she gave up Azaan's happiness for her, she has ruined Yasmin and Azaan for her, but she loves Azaan 🙏🙏

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by fria319


Actually, to this day, I don't know why Azaan agreed to marry Noor... FOr me, there's no logical reason behind it.  He was not backed into a corner like the showrunners want us to believe. 

Shaira asked him to yes, but why did he listen to her? Forget that this is the story of the show so the writers had to make it happen.  Characterwise - what was the point. Shaira is not "with" him now anyway. He was going to "lose" Shaira in both situations. Why is this situation any better? He gave her a promise while she was 'fighting for her life', ok, sure, but now, take back your promise. Why did that promise need to be fulfilled. 

Me neither!

It is nothing but another plot convenience in a show that's infested with plot conveniences. Only point in his favour is that out of all idiots, his reasons look more reasonable. He legit brought a dead person back by promising to HONOR HER PROMISEsmiley5 and that too after almost causing her death. Going back on this would probably mean that he doesn't value Shayra's life (his POV). That's why they have shown that his only way out is Shayra revoking her promise so that there is no need for him to honor that anymore. He requests her to do that just before the nikaah as well. But it is convoluted AF, no doubt!smiley32

But here's where the plan plot line could be used and Azaan would not look as dumb. But that plot will also make Azaan the owner of more grey matter than the bare minimum intelligence allowed to human species in Bahu Begum .... most importantly, more intelligent than two-two female leads!smiley3 Can they allow a male lead to get away with that?smiley22 If they can, then good!

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by NoraSM


Azaan gave Shaira, a home and a family. It sucks that she can't see how he must be hurting due to her actions. She made a promise to Noor and didn't convince Noor to take her promise back but she is going to convince Azaan into divorcing her.

Shaira saw Razia begging Noor to take her promise back, she saw what Razia is going through, she can see that Azaan is living a nightmare but all she cares about is that Noor should get a bedroom, Noor should get a husband on her bed, I am surprised she didn't arrange contraception for Noor or painkiller for after effects. 

Do writers really see good positive women like this? A good religious woman should readily share her husband, I am trying very hard to make sense of Shaira's character arc but the only thing I can think of is that Shaira is a lesbian and in love with Noor. She wants to see her love happy at any cost. If she is in love with Noor then why she keeps telling Azaan that she loves him? I can see Shaira fighting for Noor's happiness, she gave up her happiness for her, she gave up Azaan's happiness for her, she has ruined Yasmin and Azaan for her, but she loves Azaan 🙏🙏


@BOLD:  PLOT TWIST smiley37smiley37

I don't think there is any sense to her character at the moment. As per usual, ITV writers make their heroines lose all sense, intelligence, and reasoning 1 week after the show starts. 

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by cuppa_n_cricket



It is nothing but another plot convenience in a show that's infested with plot conveniences. Only point in his favour is that out of all idiots, his reasons look more reasonable. He legit brought a dead person back by promising to HONOR HER PROMISEsmiley5 and that too after almost causing her death. Going back on this would probably mean that he doesn't value Shayra's life (his POV). That's why they have shown that his only way out is Shayra revoking her promise so that there is no need for him to honor that anymore. He requests her to do that just before the nikaah as well. But it is convoluted AF, no doubt!smiley32

@BOLD: YESSSS. I know most of ITV is all plot conveniences, but this show is one of the few where I have such a hard time getting over these plot conveniences. It's so obviously convoluted. I just smiley44. At this point I'm watching to see how they (writers) dig themselves out of this and how far they can take this story. 

@Italics: LOL at the first part. 2nd part: Makes sense. But he does value her life, thats why he made such a ridiculous promise at that moment. 

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Posted: 1 years ago

Please welcome Sree ( cuppa_n_cricket ) everyone. smiley14

@ Sree - I am not doing much thinking this time and look forward Nora's analysis more so than the episodes.smiley36

Missed you Yaara! smiley31

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