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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by Amy142


If I am understanding it correctly, after she threw them out, she was the one who went out seeking the mittals. Empathy is probably never received by force. But then we might look at it differently.  So you think that normal people would sit quietly and watch if they are made homeless out of the blue and not lash out? None of the characters are behaving normally,  that's a topic for another day.smiley36

Kabir more or less knows his dad was a baddie, he acknowledged it in not so many words. I feel survival instincts fuels everyone's motives.

And I am not sure why you think that pooja would move on if the junior mittals said sorry. Or kabir moving on would have made pooja move on. on another note, if that would happen,  show would shut shop.

I never said anything about anyone saying sorry to Puja.

I am analyzing the characters of the junior Mittals from the eyes of a viewer considering them as individual human beings. I never said anything about their direct effect on Puja or the inter-relation between the characters. If you feel that I did, please copy that part and show me. I will clarify about it .

Humanity includes some basic traits including compassion and empathy about other humans. I was judging those characters individually in the humanity scale on the basis of those traits from a viewer's point of view. It had nothing to do with their effect on Puja or rather anyone. I even mentioned their reaction (or rather no reaction) about the thousands of other families that were harmed in the process. It was about how they see situations and treat other human beings in general and analyzing how they are as individual human beings.

Edited by stormborn - 3 months ago
Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by stormborn


I never said anything about anyone saying sorry to Puja.

I am analyzing the characters of the junior Mittals from the eyes of a viewer considering them as individual human beings. I never said anything about their direct effect on Puja or the inter-relation between the characters. If you feel that I did, please copy that part and show me. I will clarify about it .

Humanity includes some basic traits including compassion and empathy about other humans. I was judging those characters individually in the humanity scale on the basis of those traits from a viewer's point of view. It had nothing to do with their effect on Puja or rather anyone. It was about how they see situations and treat other human beings in general and analyzing how they are as individual human beings.

I am not saying that you said that.  I am just questioning how these things can happen. 

Those kids are spoilt,  but look at their parents. Doubt they paid any attention to upbringing.  Probably money was all they needed. 

Edited by Amy142 - 3 months ago
Posted: 3 months ago

Pooja betrayed Kabir's family. 

Although she was wronged by PK, but she took revenge on the other innocent members of the family. She drove his mum crazy with wrong medicines and got her insulted in public many times. She had got Kavya insulted by the family as well. She then usurped Mittals wealth and got the Mittal family homeless. 

Are these not enough reasons for Kabir to be angry on Pooja? 

Take a scenario where a person enters in your life as a close family member plays all goody goody and at the back drives your mum crazy with medicines. 

Then suddenly it is revealed that this person is taking out revenge due one of your family member doing wrong with that person in the past.  

Later in the name of revenge this person whom you considered your family throws you out of the house for revenge. 

What would be your reaction? 

I dont understand what people expect from Kabir. Should he be like ohhh I am so sorry my fake bhabhi, you were wronged so its ok for you to usurp our wealth and get us homeless. I will do "aarti" of you smiley36

Point is whatever Pooja did in the past with innocent Mittals was WRONG. It cannot be justified. 

It was not Kabir's fault that Pooja suffered in the past. 

Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by sumz_d


Pooja betrayed Kabir's family. 

Although she was wronged by PK, but she took revenge on the other innocent members of the family. She drove his mum crazy with wrong medicines and got her insulted in public many times. She had got Kavya insulted by the family as well. She then usurped Mittals wealth and got the Mittal family homeless. 

Are these not enough reasons for Kabir to be angry on Pooja? 

Take a scenario where a person enters in your life as a close family member plays all goody goody and at the back drives your mum crazy with medicines. 

Then suddenly it is revealed that this person is taking out revenge due one of your family member doing wrong with that person in the past.  

Later in the name of revenge this person whom you considered your family throws you out of the house for revenge. 

What would be your reaction? 

I dont understand what people expect from Kabir. Should he be like ohhh I am so sorry my fake bhabhi, you were wronged so its ok for you to usurp our wealth and get us homeless. I will do "aarti" of you smiley36

Point is whatever Pooja did in the past with innocent Mittals was WRONG. It cannot be justified. 

It was not Kabir's fault that Pooja suffered in the past. 

TM said she's just analysing the characters of junior mittals as humans and nothing else.  I think she wont like what you have mentioned in your post.  May be you should consider editing your post,  else you will be tagged hater again by a bunch of folks.

Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by Amy142


TM said she's just analysing the characters of junior mittals as humans and nothing else.  I think she wont like what you have mentioned in your post.  May be you should consider editing your post,  else you will be tagged hater again by a bunch of folks.

@bold arre arre its fine if I will be considered a hater. 

Waise please tell me whats a definition of a hater? I am not hating all the characters of the show so how does that make me a hater? 

I just stated the fact that was portrayed in the show. smiley24

Calling a Spade a Spade is not wrong... 

@TM please dont take anything personally... It was just meant as an example.

No offense

Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by SRKisLove


"In conclusion, the whole Mittal family never gave a single damn about anything other than money and all their entitled offsprings are no different. I don't want Janruv, I don't want Janvir, I want Puja to successfully run the company and eventually start the hospital and become a successful businesswoman as well as a philanthropist." 


THIS!! 

I Just want her to find some peace. Maybe find Aarush and genuinely apologize to him, because she had a bond with him, which got affected due to revenge. Mostly, she connects with him. 

Also, Pooja needs a little counseling to get rid of years of childhood mental trauma.

Also, thanks man, you had the guts to point out everything, that I was thinking but didn't write 'cos of getting into arguments. Salute to you!  


ETA: I dunno whether it makes sense to post it here, but I always love this blogger's blog posts, and she has made some points connected to this discussion, though I don't agree with all. Have a look, if you are free. 

https://tellywoodtrash.tumblr.com/post/186237061179/ebss-11-120719-lbs

Exactly. Kabir needs to find a job and Pooja needs therapy. But they just wanted to do a reverse office love story. Where the FL is a shrewd businessman who puts the other one in trouble using silly but apparently ruthless antics and the ML is strong minded determined person who can tolerate any lanchhan for 'riston ki akmiyat'. But as he is the male in this scenario, he can't only tolerate it like the other numerous office romance female leads. Instead he is going to show her a bigger humiliation. I don't want Puja to lose those clients because of Kabir's antics. I want to see her gracefully handle the situation. If I have to choose between who should handle a business between a money-minded family and her, I am choosing her. I want her to become more philanthropic and not just the occassional charities. Now that she has the power, she can help people like her as well as the people who were wrong by the Mittals even more.

I feel like the show is taking the approach where they are revealing Kabir's flaws one by one and Janvi's goodness of heart simultaneously to bring out the grey in those characters. I certainly hope so. This is why I am watching it. I just hope it doesn't turn to the point where Puja gets obsessed with Kabir and become black and then Kavya gets back to become the typical SP heroine. That would be the worst. I don't mind if Kavya comes back. I just don't want the characters to lose their shades.

Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by stormborn


Exactly. Kabir needs to find a job and Pooja needs therapy. But they just wanted to do a reverse office love story. Where the FL is a shrewd businessman who puts the other one in trouble using silly but apparently ruthless antics and the ML is strong minded determined person who can tolerate any lanchhan for 'riston ki akmiyat'. But as he is the male in this scenario, he can't only tolerate it like the other numerous office romance female leads. Instead he is going to show her a bigger humiliation. I don't want Puja to lose those clients because of Kabir's antics. I want to see her gracefully handle the situation. If I have to choose between who should handle a business between a money-minded family and her, I am choosing her. I want her to become more philanthropic and not just the occassional charities. Now that she has the power, she can help people like her as well as the people who were wrong by the Mittals even more.

I feel like the show is taking the approach where they are revealing Kabir's flaws one by one and Janvi's goodness of heart simultaneously to bring out the grey in those characters. I certainly hope so. This is why I am watching it. I just hope it doesn't turn to the point where Puja gets obsessed with Kabir and become black and then Kavya gets back to become the typical SP heroine. That would be the worst. I don't mind if Kavya comes back. I just don't want the characters to lose their shades.

Everything you said. Same man, I mentioned in several posts in the forum, why is Pooja running the business because I always thought (after the land donation episode) that she would use all that money to invest in the hospital, like her Dada's dream. The writers should have remembered this earlier. 

Now that they have remembered it, I hope they keep at it. Also, like you said, it will be good, if Pooja does something for the other victims too. I wish there was some way to reach the makers. 

I'm watching for the exact same reason. Mostly, now I am watching with my brain switched off, because the main revenge plot is done, so the show's point is somewhat lost. 

I just find EBSS better than EK or Gul dramas, right now, I'm bored of them. So, literally just watching it for Shrenu and Zain, and a little more sensible plot than the usual SP shows. 

Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by sumz_d


Pooja betrayed Kabir's family. 

Although she was wronged by PK, but she took revenge on the other innocent members of the family. She drove his mum crazy with wrong medicines and got her insulted in public many times. She had got Kavya insulted by the family as well. She then usurped Mittals wealth and got the Mittal family homeless. 

Are these not enough reasons for Kabir to be angry on Pooja? 

Take a scenario where a person enters in your life as a close family member plays all goody goody and at the back drives your mum crazy with medicines. 

Then suddenly it is revealed that this person is taking out revenge due one of your family member doing wrong with that person in the past.  

Later in the name of revenge this person whom you considered your family throws you out of the house for revenge. 

What would be your reaction? 

I dont understand what people expect from Kabir. Should he be like ohhh I am so sorry my fake bhabhi, you were wronged so its ok for you to usurp our wealth and get us homeless. I will do "aarti" of you smiley36

Point is whatever Pooja did in the past with innocent Mittals was WRONG. It cannot be justified. 

It was not Kabir's fault that Pooja suffered in the past. 

Kabir was not angry at her until she refused to let them live in that mansion. All hell broke loose after that. It's all about money and lifestyle.

Secondly: All the points that I mentioned about Kabir, I never said he shouldn't be angry on Puja or be sweet to her or whatever. I said nothing about their relation with Puja. I analyzed them as per their individual characteristics and how they are as human being. That's it. I am not a Puja fan. Puja is just off topic here. She was not my concern in the post. I am not anyone's fan. I am just a person who loves to think in her spare time and analyses characters after she watches a show or reads a book.

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