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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

The show shows that a man can walk in n out of his wife's life ,use her,abandon her, then find new woman,then again forget her n come back,or maybe not.

But a woman,the wife,she can't move on. She should be waiting for the husband n in the end she has to be with the husband only,she has to forgive him n accept him back,even if he didn't even apologize.


Totally patriarchal,irresponsible writing. Im dissapointed by all the characters n the writers. There rr already enough shows propagating patriarchal thoughts,couldnt this one just once be progressive?

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First they promoted EMA via divine angle when audience gave him left right and cente they killed the other woman and now shifted to safe route of patriarchy.
There is nothing progressive in this show like makers claimed. Its age old garbage with working wife.
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Posted: 5 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: yurimehta11

I am glad there is people in the forum who shares same opinion as mine. This writer is so unfair with female characters first she gave cringe worthy dialogues to Nandini now she turned Mauli desperate. In short women in love has no dignity and Kunal the great is always right whatever he do.


I had been vocal about this from the time when affair hadn't started. I so wanted women to stand for women in this show, Nandini to choose friendship over that jerk and be Mauli's rock solid support.
But nopes, makers gave her worst dialogues like no one has ever loved me or gifted me before liKe Kunal as if only that sort of love matters in life and everyrhing else is a waste.

Now, Mauli is shown to have not move on. I mean why. Women like Mauli can move on after betrayal and I have seen them with my own eyes. She has a guy like Ishaan who worships her in every sense and is devoted to her and still this woman is shown to be pinning for him. I have n't seen women who are independent getting back to guys as wives after divorce And infidelity. They either stay single or move on with other guy, but don't go back to the same guy. That happens in rarity.

Gajra has done terrible job when writing this show. She wrote Anandi and she was thousand times better written character. Anadi didn't pin for Jagiya even though she couldn't love her new husband Shiv for a long time. She took time indeed. Her Kunal is one rotten man. He still gets to play a victim card and Mauli lets him do it by feeling guilty and terrible for having hidden Mishti's truth.

This is no where close to path-breaking show. Kunal and Mauli didn't separate just like that. Kunal cheated without blinking and didn't even regret it. He didn't come to her in his own. I don't know how can a woman forget it. Nandini's death changes nothing about what Kunal did. He is still responsible for everything he did 7 years ago.

Gajra could have made it close to reality but it's not. She is still stuck at man-worshiping man like Kunal.
Kunal may be a good human in generl but for Mauli as a betrayed wife, he still remains a cheater.
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Posted: 5 years ago
#13
@kiran -- i totally understand whatever u said.. pls read my previous reply to this post if u havent yet, to refer what i am going to say now..
see, it doesnt look like patriarchal thing /a man vs woman thing at the surface level.. but deep down it is.. if u imagine kunal as a victim and mauli as a cheater then probably it will help u understand this thing..

its NOT SHOWN that kunal is overpowering her bcz of his male ego and she is giving in to circumstances just bcz she is a woman..
and in case of rajdeep nandini it was crystal clear that she is giving in to his demands bcz both have patriarchal SOCH (mentality).

but what @yuri is saying is that we women are designed in this way and have been treated this way since birth that we don't understand our self worth..

do u remember when mauli's mother blamed her that she is the reason for his straying away and she should have taken care of kunal , she agreed to her mother. i know she was disappointed, hurt , confused and was wondering the reasons for his straying away and this led her to agree to her mother and i know that she didnt even mean that..
but what about all the efforts she made till date?? love can be a reason for this.. but if kunal were at her place then could he have done those efforts????
have u ever seen such man?? any example??
if there is any example the guy would be hazaro me ek..
and what mauli is doing is something that every second betrayed woman does..
so there is definitely a mind set in our society that women are supposed to make MORE efforts than man to make her relationships work and sometimes its ONLY women who are supposed to do ALL the efforts..

i have seen many majnoo deewanas who sulk recalling their ex girlfriends betrayal and out of them only few want those gfs back. but i havent seen any husband who is been betrayed for no reason and yet want his wife back..
exceptions are always there.. there may be examples but its RARE..

and if writers keep on pushing mauli towards him again and again and for no reasons then they will definitely set up an example that she was a weak woman bcz this time juzzbat and love can not justify her actions..



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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya


I had been vocal about this from the time when affair hadn't started. I so wanted women to stand for women in this show, Nandini to choose friendship over that jerk and be Mauli's rock solid support.
But nopes, makers gave her worst dialogues like no one has ever loved me or gifted me before liKe Kunal as if only that sort of love matters in life and everyrhing else is a waste.

Now, Mauli is shown to have not move on. I mean why. Women like Mauli can move on after betrayal and I have seen them with my own eyes. She has a guy like Ishaan who worships her in every sense and is devoted to her and still this woman is shown to be pinning for him. I have n't seen women who are independent getting back to guys as wives after divorce And infidelity. They either stay single or move on with other guy, but don't go back to the same guy. That happens in rarity.

Gajra has done terrible job when writing this show. She wrote Anandi and she was thousand times better written character. Anadi didn't pin for Jagiya even though she couldn't love her new husband Shiv for a long time. She took time indeed. Her Kunal is one rotten man. He still gets to play a victim card and Mauli lets him do it by feeling guilty and terrible for having hidden Mishti's truth.

This is no where close to path-breaking show. Kunal and Mauli didn't separate just like that. Kunal cheated without blinking and didn't even regret it. He didn't come to her in his own. I don't know how can a woman forget it. Nandini's death changes nothing about what Kunal did. He is still responsible for everything he did 7 years ago.

Gajra could have made it close to reality but it's not. She is still stuck at man-worshiping man like Kunal.
Kunal may be a good human in generl but for Mauli as a betrayed wife, he still remains a cheater.

Aanandi, Jagya and Gauri were well written character. Jagya look human but kunal is lost case.
Woman standing for woman is not their story. They want to show that other woman isn't vamp but they failed miserably.
It will be pathbreaking if they showed N and M ditching K but unfortunately they don't want to think something new. Both M and N are ordinary regular characters, explored much better in other shows.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettywomaniya

@kiran -- i totally understand whatever u said.. pls read my previous reply to this post if u havent yet, to refer what i am going to say now..

see, it doesnt look like patriarchal thing /a man vs woman thing at the surface level.. but deep down it is.. if u imagine kunal as a victim and mauli as a cheater then probably it will help u understand this thing..

its NOT SHOWN that kunal is overpowering her bcz of his male ego and she is giving in to circumstances just bcz she is a woman..
and in case of rajdeep nandini it was crystal clear that she is giving in to his demands bcz both have patriarchal SOCH (mentality).

but what @yuri is saying is that we women are designed in this way and have been treated this way since birth that we don't understand our self worth..

do u remember when mauli's mother blamed her that she is the reason for his straying away and she should have taken care of kunal , she agreed to her mother. i know she was disappointed, hurt , confused and was wondering the reasons for his straying away and this led her to agree to her mother and i know that she didnt even mean that..
but what about all the efforts she made till date?? love can be a reason for this.. but if kunal were at her place then could he have done those efforts????
have u ever seen such man?? any example??
if there is any example the guy would be hazaro me ek..
and what mauli is doing is something that every second betrayed woman does..
so there is definitely a mind set in our society that women are supposed to make MORE efforts than man to make her relationships work and sometimes its ONLY women who are supposed to do ALL the efforts..

i have seen many majnoo deewanas who sulk recalling their ex girlfriends betrayal and out of them only few want those gfs back. but i havent seen any husband who is been betrayed for no reason and yet want his wife back..
exceptions are always there.. there may be examples but its RARE..

and if writers keep on pushing mauli towards him again and again and for no reasons then they will definitely set up an example that she was a weak woman bcz this time juzzbat and love can not justify her actions..



You explained much better than me.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: yurimehta11

Aanandi, Jagya and Gauri were well written character. Jagya look human but kunal is lost case.

Woman standing for woman is not their story. They want to show that other woman isn't vamp but they failed miserably.
It will be pathbreaking if they showed N and M ditching K but unfortunately they don't want to think something new. Both M and N are ordinary regular characters, explored much better in other shows.


There is a show Patiala Babes touching on the same subject where the wife is cheated and her daughter helps her fly and both mother-daughter suppport each other. That is path-breaking and inspiring. Even there they have a second woman with a persective and is flawed but not a vamp.

Even Tujh se hai raabta touches the same subject of a betrayed wife and how other woman's daughter comes to her suppprt when she finds out the truth.

Why was Nandini even made best friends with Mauli if you wanted to belittle marriage as well as friendship in this era. The worst thing about the show was belittling friendship. Nandini didn't betray any woman, she betrayed her best friend who had saved her life. And still you want to prove that what she did was not wrong and divine. Kunal cheated with that very friend he barely knew and mocked his marriage of 7 years and still you want to say he was just a victim of divine juzzbat. Mauli was humiliated on every level and still you want to show that a woman like her can't move on with another guy or even sty single for the rest of her life and still dwells in her terrible past. So many real life cheated wives move on in such better ways. But nopes, we still wanna stick to regressive thinking.
Gajra sure has lowered her standards in portraying women in path-breaking ways or it is someone else who is writing this show's story.
Edited by arshi_asya - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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This new girl is common friend of Kunal and Nandini ,then y the heck didn't nandini give responsibility of Pari to her? Or made her promise that ?Is this new entrant to reunite Maunal by this time kunal faking it so Mauli moves ahead ?
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: yurimehta11

You explained much better than me.


na naa.. we all are trying to understand things and explain those in our own ways..😊

even i never felt this way until it really striked hard..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya


There is a show Patiala Babes touching on the same subject where the wife is cheated and her daughter helps her fly and both mother-daughter suppport each other. That is path-breaking and inspiring. Even there they have a second woman with a persective and is flawed but not a vamp.

Even Tujh se hai raabta touches the same subject of a betrayed wife and how other woman's daughter comes to her suppprt when she finds out the truth.

Why was Nandini even made best friends with Mauli if you wanted to belittle marriage as well as friendship in this era. The worst thing about the show was belittling friendship. Nandini didn't betray any woman, she betrayed her best friend who had saved her life. And still you want to prove that what she did was not wrong and divine. Kunal cheated with that very friend he barely knew and mocked his marriage of 7 years and still you want to say he was just a victim of divine juzzbat. Mauli was humiliated on every level and still you want to show that a woman like her can't move on with another guy or even sty single for the rest of her life and still dwells in her terrible past. So many real life cheated wives move on in such better ways. But nopes, we still wanna stick to regressive thinking.
Gajra sure has lowered her standards in portraying women in path-breaking ways or it is someone else who is writing this show's story.

both that show is about EMA victims but this show supposed to be about other woman. Daughter in patilyala babes is very good and step daughter is understanding and supportive after revelation. Here emotions of cheaters is more important than victim.They want to sh how that everyone supported wife and other woman and husband doesn't get desired love from family. Their love should be accepted and supported.It can't be ridicule by society. Society is so cruel by rejecting them. In short makers want public shouldn't support the victim but the accused. Its about love at the beginning for such couple but later love is not enough for them. They start demanding respect and love from others too.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettywomaniya


na naa.. we all are trying to understand things and explain those in our own ways.. 😊

even i never felt this way until it really striked hard..

still you explain better. We never felt because no one showed us this side of spectrum. Man is provider and protector of family in patriarchal system so its essential to forgive for the sake of kids. Women's importance isn't that much. Grandmother, aunts or stepmother can replace the cheating mother according to society
. She cheated, she should be punished.
He cheated, chalta hai, hota rahta hai, bacche ko bap ka pyar milna chahiye. Unfortunately we have double standards for man and woman.

My Nani used to say a husband should always careful about his wife's need. Her point of view should be listened, she shouldn't be left on her own. May be she won't cheat like man do but she can be emotionally attached to another man which kept hidden. Movies and shows rarely explore such aspect.
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