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Originally posted by: Shaavi
I do have a question regarding today's episode. In today's episode, during the mehendi ritual, Mann was sitting on a big throne at the top of the stage which is fine. One one side, her mother sat which is also fine. But why was Ruqayya on the other side next to her and why was Jodha sitting so far away from Mann. Shouldn't Jodha be the one next to Mann from her being the grooms mom perspective. Or was it that Ruqayya was the first wife of Akbar and Salim's badi ammi, so she was given that respect.

It just seemed weird that Jodha sat so far away from Mann. It was like she was equal to Anar or belonged to that level or something like that. Somehow that seating did not gel with what they showed till now.

If jodha sat next to maan bai how ruqaiah will teach her how to misbehave with anar 😆

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Shaavi

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Posted: 5 years ago

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The person I really felt bad today was Khannum. I really liked his acting. His eyes were very voluble and showed his pain in a beautiful way.

But whatever Mann said to him was true at that time. Servants were treated as dispensable. Neither they themselves nor their lives had much value. All the dynasties had to fall for that class system to fall.

Another thing is Khannum was insulted because of Anar. I feel that her talking to Mann that way was incorrect. It might be that she loved Salim, yet she had to remember her place in the palace. Whatever Mann was saying was for Anar and Khannum got the brunt of it.

This is just my thoughts after today's episode. Not intended to hurt anyone.

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Originally posted by: Shaavi
The person I really felt bad today was Khannum. I really liked his acting. His eyes were very voluble and showed his pain in a beautiful way.
But whatever Mann said to him was true at that time. Servants were treated as dispensable. Neither they themselves nor their lives had much value. All the dynasties had to fall for that class system to fall.

Another thing is Khannum was insulted because of Anar. I feel that her talking to Mann that way was incorrect. It might be that she loved Salim, yet she had to remember her place in the palace. Whatever Mann was saying was for Anar and Khannum got the brunt of it.

This is just my thoughts after today's episode. Not intended to hurt anyone.

Ruqaiah for a moment i thought will save him buttt

Even today a maid or servant is treated not so good in house holds

I did not like salims behaviour with his gaurds too poor guys whys he removing anger of anars burnt pic on them?

This maan bai and salim are like twin copies of each other in behaviour very volatile and anger on nose always

Yes anar - she said my mehendi of salim is permanent yours will go away in few days

What did anar mean by that?

Does she real want maan to marry salim and both together

Or shes just acting all this goody goody till salim marries her after 4 days

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Shaavi

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Posted: 5 years ago

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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Yes anar - she said my mehendi of salim is permanent yours will go away in few days

What did anar mean by that?

Does she real want maan to marry salim and both together

Or shes just acting all this goody goody till salim marries her after 4 days

Anar is someone who is taking both Jodha and Salim's words literally. 😆 😆 . Both Jodha and Salim did not treat her as "kaneez". With Salim frequently saying that she is the next empress, his first wife, she has completely detached from reality. Jodha begging her to convinced Salim to marry Mann has not helped the matters. It actually made it worse because now Anar is looking like she is making a sacrifice. And others are supposed to appreciate her for that, especially Mann since she is the one who is gaining Salim only because of her sacrifice. The more she acts like she is better than Mann or equal to her, the more Mann's anger will grow causing even more harm.

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Originally posted by: Shaavi

Anar is someone who is taking both Jodha and Salim's words literally. 😆 😆 . Both Jodha and Salim did not treat her as "kaneez". With Salim frequently saying that she is the next empress, his first wife, she has completely detached from reality. Jodha begging her to convinced Salim to marry Mann has not helped the matters. It actually made it worse because now Anar is looking like she is making a sacrifice. And others are supposed to appreciate her for that, especially Mann since she is the one who is gaining Salim only because of her sacrifice. The more she acts like she is better than Mann or equal to her, the more Mann's anger will grow causing even more harm.

From childhood only anarkali does not behave like a maids daughter or now like a maid

Its ok with jodha and salim may be because they have lived with her from childhood

But Maan bai is new to her - she cannot behave so dominating and rudely with maan bai

After all maan bai is future malika e hndustan

Anarkali is not making any sacrifice -- salim has planned to marry her after 4 days and she knows that is it not? Indeed if qazi had not objjected they would be married by now only.

Than what sort of sacrifice is that?

Maan Bai is better off not marrying salim than her becoming second wife of Salim

Which royal princess wants to become secondary wife of a prince while his chief wife is a maid?

No wonder nur jahan faced so much opposition and hatred - Salim had many royal princess as wife yet he made nur jahan an empress, all those royal princess who had married him for many decades must have been truly angry for that. after all they have helped him thru u and downs in life etc now suddenly he marries a wife in his 40s and makes her empress.

Where is maan singh in all this? i wanted to know how he reacts to all this - he was salims teacher after all

Man Singh was so important to Akbar and empire - he will be willing to let go Salim not man singh at any cost

And bhagwan das has disappeared only - its his daughters marraige

I want to know what maan bais father and brother think of salims love affair

They both will be angry with jodha and akbar for hidding such big matter from them

Especially man singh would not think twice before speaking rudely with akbar once akbar and man singh even fought so much in court both were literally wrestling on floor with each other till someone seperated them 😆

Only salim was not one who could stand and answer back akbar in court even man singh could do that

If man singh gets to know salim-anar love affair akbar ki khair nahi - akbar is in trouble

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Shaavi

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Posted: 5 years ago

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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Anarkali is not making any sacrifice -- salim has planned to marry her after 4 days and she knows that is it not? Indeed if qazi had not objjected they would be married by now only.

Than what sort of sacrifice is that?

I want to know what maan bais father and brother think of salims love affair

Jodha Bai's words and actions remaking it seem like Anarkali is making a sacrifice. The moment Jodha acknowledged that what is between Salim and Anarkali is "love" and begged Anar to convince Salim to marry Mann, the idea of "sacrificing her love" got deepened in Anar's mind. And since then, Mann showing her contempt and scorn has cemented it further. She has gone so far into her illusion of being equal to Salim or Salim's words of her being the "empress" of his heart that she is not seeing the reality of life. She needs a strong reminder like Akbar branding her as "rakkasa" or something like that for her to realize her position.

When Salim first confessed that he loves her, Anarkali was shocked. Growing up in palace she knew that such love was not possible. Hence she asked Salim to hide their love. Her doubt had always been "will the members of royal family accept her as anything more than kaneez. When Jodha comes to ask Anarkali regarding their love, she should have "invalidatedit by saying that she feels betrayed. She should have told Anarkali that she had trusted her and had not just treated as a "mamooli kaneez. That she had accepted her as Salim's friend. And by assuming that she and and Salim were in love, she(Anar) has betrayed her(Jodha). She should have negated any possibility of there being any other relationship between Salim and Anar than of good friends.

By saying that she understands their love, that she knows Anar has already done a lot of favors, and that what she is asking of Anar is difficult for her, she made Anar feel that her love is valid. By saying that she should convince Salim to marry Mann for the sake of peace between Amer and Agra, for the sake of the throne of India, she inadvertently created a sense of "sacrifice of her love in Anarkali's mind. So now Anar feels like Mann should be grateful to her for letting Salim marry her. And it is that attitude which is making Anar act the way she is doing.

Adding Hamida to the list of people who is needed at this time in the series. I want to know what she thinks too because she was the one person who used to disarm Ruqayya's plans.

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Originally posted by: Shaavi

Jodha Bai's words and actions remaking it seem like Anarkali is making a sacrifice. The moment Jodha acknowledged that what is between Salim and Anarkali is "love" and begged Anar to convince Salim to marry Mann, the idea of "sacrificing her love" got deepened in Anar's mind. And since then, Mann showing her contempt and scorn has cemented it further. She has gone so far into her illusion of being equal to Salim or Salim's words of her being the "empress" of his heart that she is not seeing the reality of life. She needs a strong reminder like Akbar branding her as "rakkasa" or something like that for her to realize her position.

When Salim first confessed that he loves her, Anarkali was shocked. Growing up in palace she knew that such love was not possible. Hence she asked Salim to hide their love. Her doubt had always been "will the members of royal family accept her as anything more than kaneez. When Jodha comes to ask Anarkali regarding their love, she should have "invalidatedit by saying that she feels betrayed. She should have told Anarkali that she had trusted her and had not just treated as a "mamooli kaneez. That she had accepted her as Salim's friend. And by assuming that she and and Salim were in love, she(Anar) has betrayed her(Jodha). She should have negated any possibility of there being any other relationship between Salim and Anar than of good friends.

By saying that she understands their love, that she knows Anar has already done a lot of favors, and that what she is asking of Anar is difficult for her, she made Anar feel that her love is valid. By saying that she should convince Salim to marry Mann for the sake of peace between Amer and Agra, for the sake of the throne of India, she inadvertently created a sense of "sacrifice of her love in Anarkali's mind. So now Anar feels like Mann should be grateful to her for letting Salim marry her. And it is that attitude which is making Anar act the way she is doing.

Adding Hamida to the list of people who is needed at this time in the series. I want to know what she thinks too because she was the one person who used to disarm Ruqayya's plans.

I understand

Initially anar was sacrificing type and maan the villan

But with anar and salim secretly going to qazi to marry not once but twice

And anars rude behaviour to an crazy but still a princess maan - i mean what she means by my mehendi is permanent yours temproary etc its like taunting her as a souten and equal which anrakali was not and never can be even if she marries salim later. No matter what salim and anarkali think, if maan bai is alive and married to salim, anarkali will never be malika e hind or chief wife/padshah begum in this life. Indeed maan bai died young so nur jahan became malika e hind in history.

Imagine if maan bai was alive and she was malika e hind/padshah begum even salim will not dare take away title from her and give to his love nur jahan( Or anarkali in this serial). Nur jahan became padshah begum/ malika e hind only because maan bai was dead long back(she became in 1620 and maan died in 1605). After her sahila banu became padshah begum(1607-1619) and malika e hind(she was related to salim, a cousin and her dad was a mughal) only after her death than nur jahan. If maan bai dies there are mughal related wives of salim who are next in line only than anarkali may get chance( no matter she is first wife or last it does not qualify her for padshah begum or malika e hind as per mughal rules). After that mumtaz, jahanara, rosahnara etc daughters or sisters or cousin sisters of of emperors became padshah begum/malika e hinds in that order. Thats how usually mughals made malika e hind or padshah begums. Only two emperors broke this rule Salim with a commoner nur jahan and shah jahan with mumtaz mahal a commoner, all others followed these rules that mughal cousins or emperor mother or sisters were made malika e hind or padshah begums. To think of it mumtaz was next emperors mother dara sikohs/aurangzebs so its fine by rules only for nur jahan that rule was broken but as there were no mughal cousins or next emperors mother alive(Jodha had died by than who was shah jahans mom and so had maan bai khusrau mom and so had parvez mom sahib jamal so nur jahan became malika e hind and no mugahl cousin wife left)

I think little sympathy is reserved for maan bai too

After all her marraige roka happened without her knowing salim loved anarkali

That was 15th century once a marraige is fixed if it breaks she will not get another groom

That too for royal princess more tough

And in rajpuths pride was most important - the breaking of marraige that too with crown prince meant death for maan and humilaition for amer

So war would be iminent bet agra and amer

And a maid is misbeahving and talking back to her and competing with her for her husband its very pathetic situation for maan bai whose not used to that

Even in modern times imagine a highly qualified rich family high caste and status girl who is wife of another rich and class man has to compete with a house maid or dancer for position, anyone shall get offended.

When in 21st century that kind of thing is unimaginable by upper class/royals in 15th century it must be even more bad for maan bais psyche

Even akbar has maids/commoners as wife/cocubbine but will anyone dare speak to Salims mother or Ruqaiah/salima the way anarakali is speaking to maan bai never not even once they are aged at 60-70 years. If they dare they will be dead literally, class was strictly followed than and royals had very high stature even religious priests dare not misbehave with royals they could be in jail for doing that. So its shocking to see anar behave so with maan and even khanam is taunting her. If her brother Maan singh gets to know they all will be dead by now. Because Man Singh was very powerful person in mughal court, akbar would not dare offend him forget others even royal mughals.

I do not know where maan singh is leaving his baby sisters marraige(man singh was just 4-6 years younger to akbar so maan bai is his baby sister young enough to be daughter, he must be having sons/adughters bigger than maan bai because akbar had salim at age 28 years and that time everyone had kids by 15-16 years max 18 years. So man singhs kids must be atleast 6-7 years elder to his sister maan bai)

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Bollywoodlaver

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Something has gone wrong with shaheer's acting and that is a shame, I used to feel his emotions and now I feel nothing, his rage in today's episode was so underwhelming, he made the show, without his good acting what is even left? I am very disappointed! It is like he has suddenly forgotten his character and has just disconnected! Nothing good is left about this show, I wish I wasn't as addicted.

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Originally posted by: myviewprem

From childhood only anarkali does not behave like a maids daughter or now like a maid

Its ok with jodha and salim may be because they have lived with her from childhood

But Maan bai is new to her - she cannot behave so dominating and rudely with maan bai

After all maan bai is future malika e hndustan

Anarkali is not making any sacrifice -- salim has planned to marry her after 4 days and she knows that is it not? Indeed if qazi had not objjected they would be married by now only.

Than what sort of sacrifice is that?

Maan Bai is better off not marrying salim than her becoming second wife of Salim

Which royal princess wants to become secondary wife of a prince while his chief wife is a maid?

No wonder nur jahan faced so much opposition and hatred - Salim had many royal princess as wife yet he made nur jahan an empress, all those royal princess who had married him for many decades must have been truly angry for that. after all they have helped him thru u and downs in life etc now suddenly he marries a wife in his 40s and makes her empress.

Where is maan singh in all this? i wanted to know how he reacts to all this - he was salims teacher after all

Man Singh was so important to Akbar and empire - he will be willing to let go Salim not man singh at any cost

And bhagwan das has disappeared only - its his daughters marraige

I want to know what maan bais father and brother think of salims love affair

They both will be angry with jodha and akbar for hidding such big matter from them

Especially man singh would not think twice before speaking rudely with akbar once akbar and man singh even fought so much in court both were literally wrestling on floor with each other till someone seperated them 😆

Only salim was not one who could stand and answer back akbar in court even man singh could do that

If man singh gets to know salim-anar love affair akbar ki khair nahi - akbar is in trouble

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