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Posted: 5 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: lostloveforever

I am asking only about yours. I gave you a reference of a thief and a pickpocket to know if earning for a living is somehow linked to morality of action involved in making such a living. Do you believe that the constitutional or legal morality in India justifies such conclusions as drawn by you?


Apologise for butting in but I'll give my two cents.

I believe comparison between earning a living through prostitution and stealing is wrong.
Usually those who get thrown into prostitution are victims of human trafficking. They are looked down upon by society when they are victims themselves. But then again even if some get into prostitution by their own will, society should not judge. Prostitution is legal in India except for some related activities like child prostitution,owning/ managing a brothel etc.
On the other hand, stealing is against the law and is ethically wrong hence socially looked down upon. We can say that sometimes some get into stealing because of their financial situation so should it be considered a wrong? In that case still stealing is a choice, an unethical one. There are people who struggle with financial problems but choose to earn through legal, ethical means. Prostitution is largely not a choice.

Edited by Jo_March - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: lostloveforever

I am asking only about yours. I gave you a reference of a thief and a pickpocket to know if earning for a living is somehow linked to morality of action involved in making such a living. Do you believe that the constitutional or legal morality in India justifies such conclusions as drawn by you?


I feel like I am back at high school again sitting for my exam papers lol
Go a little easy on the questions na.πŸ˜†

Thieving is not legal in any part of the world I would think.There are consequences and the law to punish,whereas prostitution is legal in many parts of the world.Barrring pimping and human trafficking it's also legal in India too, right?
It's a way of living and earning bread and butter for many be it out of force or of free will.

Thieviing is not a legal means to earn a living or to feed an empty stomach,although many may do it because of their poverty stricken state,but it still doesn't make it ok.
All we, out of humanity can do is empathize with this state of majboori, but the law would not
would not hold such empathy and would not be so forgiving.You do the crime,you do the time.
That's just how it works.

So if I am to judge thieving based on a moral compass,i won't say it's the right thing to do,but like I said, all I can do is empathize that is if it was out of sheer helplessness due to a poverty stricken state.

If I or anyone is to judge the above given scenario or anything in general based on moral compass then it depends on the individual school of thought we belong to.
It's not necessary that what maybe immoral to you should also be the same to me or to anyone else. and so on.

Also I cannot answer or say for sure if the constitutional or legal morality in India would deem my so called conclusions as justifiable since I am not from India-Can only go by on what I know and have seen or heard about the Indian justice system or of the morals of majority Indian's- and I also can't speak for all because the moral compass one holds to judge differs from person to person.


The only point I was trying to make in all this is,those women that Sree so easily shamed in the process in his so called rage,without giving a second thought were not there to defend themselves,and neither did I see any topics on it in their defence.

I think we all get that he was poked and provoked to no ends,but he could have said so many other things under the sun in his fit of rage-Why go down that route?Was it really necessary and called for?And my qualm is, that it didn't seem like it was just done in a fit of rage but more in a very calm,calculative manner.


Anyways I hope I have been able to answer the question in the right manner in order to get full marks on that exam paper.

Also I think I have derailed the topic enough lol-As it is I do tend to get accused a lot for derailing topics-Don't blame anyone.I hold my hands up-I do have a tendency to go off topic quite a bit.πŸ˜†
And I don't want Hippo to have to come down here all angry and guns blazing just to shoo me away with his walking stick, or maybe give me a few blows over the head with Mrs Hippo's belan.πŸ˜†













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Posted: 5 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Jo_March


Apologise for butting in but I'll give my two cents.

I believe comparison between earning a living through prostitution and stealing is wrong.
Usually those who get thrown into prostitution are victims of human trafficking. They are looked down upon by society when they are victims themselves. But then again even if some get into prostitution by their own will, society should not judge. Prostitution is legal in India except for some related activities like child prostitution,owning/ managing a brothel etc.
On the other hand, stealing is against the law and is ethically wrong hence socially looked down upon. We can say that sometimes some get into stealing because of their financial situation so should it be considered a wrong? In that case still stealing is a choice, an unethical one. There are people who struggle with financial problems but choose to earn through legal, ethical means. Prostitution is largely not a choice.


Well done Jo for putting it in a more eloquent manner than I was able to.πŸ‘
Full marks for you on that exam paper,I'd say.πŸ˜†


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Posted: 5 years ago
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KV laughing when Jasleen and megha are insulted but then calls Sree names, that too unprovoked. Also when Megha says she won't cook he flips out. God this man becomes more spineless as time passes. It's not about cooking, he thinks his group can say anythjng and it's all fun even when you're reducing someone to tears, that too for your groups fault. He encourages stealing and then in the end gets pissed that someone won't serve his sorry ass , food.

Ungrateful and cowardly are the right words to describe Bohra. Good salman ha stopped giving him footage on weekends.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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KV looks bad is a fact. But who asked Dipika and Megha to cook ? πŸ˜† Just like Shilpa last year they want to be in the kithcen zabardasti se. πŸ˜†
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Posted: 5 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Jo_March


Apologise for butting in but I'll give my two cents.

I believe comparison between earning a living through prostitution and stealing is wrong.
Usually those who get thrown into prostitution are victims of human trafficking. They are looked down upon by society when they are victims themselves. But then again even if some get into prostitution by their own will, society should not judge. Prostitution is legal in India except for some related activities like child prostitution,owning/ managing a brothel etc.
..,...Prostitution is largely not a choice.

@KD apologies for my question but needed to understand that before I could address this finally.
I will keep it short and simple. The bolded part is a wrong premise to start with since u are assuming prostitution is entirely linked to human trafficking which isn't the case, easy money plays a big role in that decision wherein the reference to thieves fits in. Legality of an action comes into play only when one is caught, I was talking about individual reaction to pickpocketing or stealing. Since you are already aware that law treats the girls as victims except for solicitation under Indian legal system, your grievance seems to be societal reaction.

The premise that "what's not forbidden is right" is actually a fallacious premise, e.g though adultery is no longer a crime but an adulterer will always be shunned or looked down upon. It brings me to the next question if your sense of judgement is the best available one or people have a right to differ and say that this profession isn't respectable?

Coming to specific event regarding Sree, I am starting with a premise that behavior of Surabhi of winking, throwing kisses, or making sounds to attract attention resembled someone who indulging in such acts, why should this reference be offending? If that's the behavior attributable to a specific group, it becomes offending only when I think that "the reference to the group itself is offensive or demeaning because of their choice of profession". So in a way people outraging have the aforesaid thinking to start with, don't you think so? You may accuse me of stereotyping certain acts to a group, and I accept it, because it comes from movies other visual media.

I totally understand your point it's a profession, but doesn't have legal sanctity in India, and case maybe different else where. I also understand the point that they should not be looked down upon for their choice, whatever their motive maybe. I was only intending to point the dichotomy wherein a person with these biases would be more outraged with this reference than a neural one.

Conclusions:
1. People have a right to decide or choose for themselves the profession of their choice but that choice is limited by legal and constitutional morality while the former maybe codified the latter may not be. Just because law doesn't prohibit it, doesn't mean it encourages it and terms it a noble profession.
2. People who look down upon this profession will be the ones outraging at even remote reference to this group.
3. The aired video was just a plain simple reference owing to certain attribution of acts, if its demeaning or offensive is entirely one's state of mind.

Edited by lostloveforever - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: subhs

Achha toh diwali cookies chupa ke kaun kha raha tha aur bol raha tha "K ko nahi milni chahiye"



Those were not Deewali cookies. He had won those cookies in Sultani Akhada. Those were his and not joint ration like sugar and all.


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Posted: 5 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Jo_March

Forget being grateful for the person who cooks dor them I don't think they have respect for the food itself. Stealing food items and keeping it in shoes.πŸ˜•


KV is so unhygienic na? Yuck, eating food from the shoes 🀒 Itane bure din aa gaye bechare ke ki jute mein se nikal ke kha raha hai disgusting man🀒
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Dear Hippo,
Reading d topic starter post n your other comments, you understood d difference between them perfectly...

Deepika has helped KV whenever she could...for me 1st indication of his true nature was when HMs voted for her as villain n she was called unfair sanchalak for KV's sake...even he voted for her as villain for torture room...but Sree did not...if KV thought she cheated, why didn't he give up his captaincy or atleast offer to?...

Whereas Sree fights with Dips like siblings do, but he has always saved her even in secret nomn...coz despite d fact that she voted him out, Sree never forgot d kindness she once did for him by looking after him when he was unwell...

Btw, Sree can cook too...when d 3 ladies were in jail, they didn't want to eat food prepared by HC, Sree cooked/served for them...whenever Dips feels unwell, Sree makes parathas also...

KV's animosity towards Dips is irrational n mean...she is so dignified...

KV is lost n clueless or maybe he was always like that...I don't know...

But Surbhi's provocations r all pre-planned...a day before her altercation with Sree, she looked in d camera n said...'main sab ko dhoka dungi, Papa ki bhi, chacha ko bhi'...

Once Surbhi turns on KV, let's see how he handles it...πŸ˜†




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Posted: 5 years ago
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I know KV was your fav, Hippo...so you must have been so disappointed in his BB journey...
I never liked him...but really yst epi - he's hiding coffee n sugar in his shoes n there's no sugar for other HMs for their morning tea - so pathetic d levels he has fallen to...such behaviour from Rohit n deepak is not surprising, but him?...

He doesn't even have an control on d HC - is he afraid of them?...
He does not even dare to tell Surbhi to stop picking on Deepika unnecessarily during her fight with Sree...

Deepika does not need an ungrateful friend like him...πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ

Due to d back to back WKVs where Sree n Co. r bashed by d host n HC club n he being let off scot free, he has been lulled into a false sense of security...
He'll be out if nominated against strong contestants...



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