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Posted: 5 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...


That promo is nothing before today episode🤣


Haan abhi pata Chala how characters r twisted and revealed for drama🤣

In short viewers and everyone r made pappu till now.😆🤣
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I am not going to focus on whether Nakuul should play Shivaansh or if his reprisal of a newly minted SSO is going to pay off! If we focus on the 'karma' brigade, then the show is doomed to failure immediately after leap. But I think otherwise, I think they will get good ratings for the leap premiere because there'll be a curiosity factor attached to it. And going by the regressive content of colour discrimination (rudra's initial LS is being copy/pasted here where 'fat' is just replaced with 'dark'😳) then trp aunties will lap up such stuff but do i see IB sustaining for long periods of time like Season 1? ...judging by the subpar writing skills of Gulneet & Co...it is a BIG no!!!!! I think somewhere down the line NM will end up trampling on the legacy he created in ITV in the form of Shivaay Singh Oberoi.

The last epi of IB that i caught was few days back on an unofficial site😆 And the one scene that I remember from that entire epi was the face-off between Shivaay & bua. The bua was OTT as usual but I couldn't believe how shivaay was coming off...he was hamming so darn hard!!!!😡 NM while acting needs a 'Surbhi' who remains balanced even in her OTTness. They both are so in sync with each other that the audience is not able to catch both their flaws. Surbhi's performance after the leap-reveal fiasco has not been upto the mark as well. It seems as if she's mentally checked out after the entire debacle (which is not her fault) coupled with the awful storyline and the same $hitty costumes does take a toll on an actor. Nakuul is going to have to find & re-create the almost perfect chemistry he had with Surbhi with the new girl. And both are gonna have to bring their A-game to the table. It is going to be a gruelling task and Gulneet will gladly offer him on a platter to be turned into mince-meat by the naysayers once everything crashes and burns.


Personally I am not keen to watch IB anymore. Shivika were awesome & no one can replace them. Also I am skeptical about the authenticity of NM as a lover-boy. Few months ago, I tried to watch his previous venture PKD...omg...eeeksss. So NO to his playing a chocolate lover-boy. Nor would I want to witness another LS of Shivaay-in-the-making...been-there-done-that, witnessed the best, don't want Shivika's clones anymore.😛 In fact, I am actuallu expecting Shivaansh to be an amalgamation of both OSO, RSO & SSO. Can imagine NM playing guitar in muscle tees, sporting an earring, spouting shayaris like OM in dukh-bhari soliloquies, insulting his FL like Rudy did Saumya, while clinching multimillion dollar business deals like a pro...but business chalane ke liye Sahil as shakuni mama bhi hai.


Needless to say, the coming weeks are going to be interesting for Ishqbaaaz. I am gladly taking away the beautiful journey of two amazing fictional characters with me but it is a FULL STOP when it comes to other offshoots of that journey...DBO (didn't watch), Redux(sporadically), leap (not interested in watching). I am sad that all of us(audience) have been discarded like last night's trash because producer madam wants a new means to fill her coiffers. I am pissed that Surbhi just became a 'means to an end' for the people she held & still does in high estimation. And do feel for NM who is just stuck between 'abused if he does/blamed if he doesn't'. And I am super-pissed at Gulneet at letting everything turns so ugly. I am deliberating whether I need to join the 'karma' brigade now?😆



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Posted: 5 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Granbois

I am not going to focus on whether Nakuul should play Shivaansh or if his reprisal of a newly minted SSO is going to pay off! If we focus on the 'karma' brigade, then the show is doomed to failure immediately after leap. But I think otherwise, I think they will get good ratings for the leap premiere because there'll be a curiosity factor attached to it. And going by the regressive content of colour discrimination (rudra's initial LS is being copy/pasted here where 'fat' is just replaced with 'dark'😳) then trp aunties will lap up such stuff but do i see IB sustaining for long periods of time like Season 1? ...judging by the subpar writing skills of Gulneet & Co...it is a BIG no!!!!! I think somewhere down the line NM will end up trampling on the legacy he created in ITV in the form of Shivaay Singh Oberoi.

The last epi of IB that i caught was few days back on an unofficial site😆 And the one scene that I remember from that entire epi was the face-off between Shivaay & bua. The bua was OTT as usual but I couldn't believe how shivaay was coming off...he was hamming so darn hard!!!!😡 NM while acting needs a 'Surbhi' who remains balanced even in her OTTness. They both are so in sync with each other that the audience is not able to catch both their flaws. Surbhi's performance after the leap-reveal fiasco has not been upto the mark as well. It seems as if she's mentally checked out after the entire debacle (which is not her fault) coupled with the awful storyline and the same $hitty costumes does take a toll on an actor. Nakuul is going to have to find & re-create the almost perfect chemistry he had with Surbhi with the new girl. And both are gonna have to bring their A-game to the table. It is going to be a gruelling task and Gulneet will gladly offer him on a platter to be turned into mince-meat by the naysayers once everything crashes and burns.


Personally I am not keen to watch IB anymore. Shivika were awesome & no one can replace them. Also I am skeptical about the authenticity of NM as a lover-boy. Few months ago, I tried to watch his previous venture PKD...omg...eeeksss. So NO to his playing a chocolate lover-boy. Nor would I want to witness another LS of Shivaay-in-the-making...been-there-done-that, witnessed the best, don't want Shivika's clones anymore.😛 In fact, I am actuallu expecting Shivaansh to be an amalgamation of both OSO, RSO & SSO. Can imagine NM playing guitar in muscle tees, sporting an earring, spouting shayaris like OM in dukh-bhari soliloquies, insulting his FL like Rudy did Saumya, while clinching multimillion dollar business deals like a pro...but business chalane ke liye Sahil as shakuni mama bhi hai.


Needless to say, the coming weeks are going to be interesting for Ishqbaaaz. I am gladly taking away the beautiful journey of two amazing fictional characters with me but it is a FULL STOP when it comes to other offshoots of that journey...DBO (didn't watch), Redux(sporadically), leap (not interested in watching). I am sad that all of us(audience) have been discarded like last night's trash because producer madam wants a new means to fill her coiffers. I am pissed that Surbhi just became a 'means to an end' for the people she held & still does in high estimation. And do feel for NM who is just stuck between 'abused if he does/blamed if he doesn't'. And I am super-pissed at Gulneet at letting everything turns so ugly. I am deliberating whether I need to join the 'karma' brigade now?😆






story theme and the actress all are speculation. there is no confirmation. Just bec the rumored actress is dark, color discrimination bola. I'm not even sure if she is selected. She could be current track entry. Prinku ka pati has a sister😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: ithihaas


Thanks AY !

Fair enough reason on why shouldn't NM play Shivaansh !

But NM might have had his own reasons for playing that character...money, role or whatever PH promised.

My post is mainly about the bashing he is getting because he choose to play Shivaansh ! and suddenly most of the fans calling him hypocrite, fakester and that he is showing off as the only one who has hand in making IB a success.

Yes, we as fans who are attached to the characters, might not be able to move on as easily as actors...we will need time and its our own wish if we have to watch after leap or not !

Gul and channel can come up with any number of videos, posts and what not that doesn't gaurantee the TRPS unless the story is good...

But we have also seen shows which are TRP toppers and yet the story /acting is not to our liking...

So whether leap works or not , only future will tell...




Ofcourse bashing NM for all this is not right...but as far as I've seen, most ppl are more focused on wanting to end the show given what a mess it's become rather than fixating on NM's reasons for continuing on. A few random ppl spouting nonsense on Twitter is not the sum of the situation right now...most are focused on wanting answers from the channel/PH.


Just like NM's free to make his choices for whatever reason, so are the fans who invested their emotions and literally kept this show afloat when it has been utter shit for so long and if possible has managed to become even MORE shit now that the only actors who were pouring SOME soul into it have also checked out😆...SC is busy planning her future career and NM is busy prepping for Shivaansh...so in all this, where are the fans left? Who spared a thought for them? No one.


As for whether the leap will succeed or not...lol so I'm deffo not one of those ppl who feels obligated to wish well for the leap just cuz NM is in it😆...maybe you and the rest of the NM fans do...I certainly don't...and that definitely doesn't mean that I hate him or something...I was anyways unlikely to follow his career much post IB...my interest begins and ends with Shivaay as far as NM is concerned...and similarly for SC...Anika is what really connected me to her...what she does after this, I don't know how much I'll follow.


Gul's shows are shittily written in general...so forgive me if I don't have high hopes for the upcoming😆...as for crappy shows managing to get TRPs...lol sure there are many like that on TV...heck NM's previous show was pretty lame IMO but still managed to survive for 2+ years I dunno how😆...funny thing is I don't think it was surviving for HIM in so much as the ensemble cast😆


But now, it seems Gul expects him alone to carry the whole of this "season 2" of IB...and that's a tall order...pun unintended😆...especially keeping in mind all the factors at play...NM does not suit the cliched Gul hero template...he's not the muscled guy walking around shirtless which is part of the Gul staple...Shivaay was built more on an intellectual/upper crust vibe...if Shivaansh is just a rinse/repeat of that, NM is setting himself up for inevitable comparisons and copying his own iconic role as Shivaay...then there's the matter of chemistry...lol again, I dunno if NM seems to realize JUST how unique his dynamic with SC was in uplifting his work as Shivaay...his regular loverboy mode alone really wouldn't have cut it without SC for him to play off of, setting up the perfect give and take...so with her gone...well...the odds don't look good for him...simple.
Edited by AreYaar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: KALVIN


Please read my all replies, i never questioned about NM playing role in leap or about IB2 success. My arguments are about treatment given to SC by blaming her for leap and wrong statements like logical ending by makers. If NM is profession then SC is also professional, they can not ruin her image for their benefit.


Kalvin,

This post was about the bashing NM is receiving bcoz he choose to play Shivaansh post leap...No where in my post I had mentioned about SC !

yes Gul was wrong in her statement when she said about leap and also about logical ending...but Gul is always like that...she has most of the time twisted facts and made statements just to suit her decisions..

Who ruined SC image ? Gul did say wrong facts but SC did clear up in all her IVs...In all these things, its SC who got all the sympathy as being a victim of Gul's decisions (forgive me for that word but I couldn't come up with a better word )
I am not saying what happened with SC is incorrect or that I support leap or SC not being part of leap..but I dont see this as ruining SC's image...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: itzMYattitude

One more thing people can bash gul ph writer whoever. Dont forget after barun left ipk the channel have subtitles that humiliate an actor he still worked with the same ph twice.

Neha was kicked out of the show saying love story is not working she worked with the same ph again in the same serial. If given a chance everyone will work with the same ph. When u r working u keep the emotions aside


yes I agree...things change, relationships change , people change over time...and in entertainment industry these are more often...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Well I don't see any fault in NM accepting new role in season 2 of IB.. it's his career and his choice . At the end of the day we e al mere human who r selfish in what we do compared to what we proclaim. But I just hope he stop talking big on social media..
Edited by Santhi_Priya21 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Santhi_Priya21

Well I don't see any fault in NM accepting new role in season 2 of IB.. it's his career and his choice . At the end of the day we e al mere human who r selfish in what we do compared to what we proclaim. But I just hope he STOP preaching and passing judgements on others


@bold...sorry, but I didn't quite get that...how is his decision to stay back after leap is anywhere related to his ideologies that he expresses on SM ?
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Santhi_Priya21

Well I don't see any fault in NM accepting new role in season 2 of IB.. it's his career and his choice . At the end of the day we e al mere human who r selfish in what we do compared to what we proclaim. But I just hope he stop talking big on social media..


So if SC is not in show NM should also quit? Nice Gul logic here which no one gets as usual


Btw reported!!
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Freebird_91



So if SC is not in show NM should also quit? Nice Gul logic here which no one gets as usual


Btw reported!!

when someone talk that big in the social media people expect something to transpire in action... rise above and beyond. hey women empowerment , gender equality don't stop at home. All I'm saying he is any other actor who is not at fault in grabbing the opportunity but pls no big talk...that's my option and Thanks for reporting.
Edited by Santhi_Priya21 - 5 years ago
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