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Posted: 8 years ago
hi everyone! i am making this thread to invite all my fellow friends to join me in the discussions of jodha akbar the show we all love so much is being aired again from monday onwards on zee anmol and lets reminisce those moments of glory!...let the magic begin...




i will be also posting links to shyamla's precious pearls of writings on the episodes in parts which will continue as the show moves on...



LIVE LINKS TO THE EPISODES

Episode 1

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/125836918

Episode 2

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/125914314

Episode 3

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/125955920

Episode 4

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/125993321

Episode 5

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/126063679


Episode 6

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/126096751 

Episode 7

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/126130104


Episode 8, 9, & 10

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/126240581


Episode 11 & 12

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4457317


Jodha Akbar 13-15: The Ruqaiya enigma

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4460548Jodha Akbar

16-21: Coming of age

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/126680130


Jodha Akbar 21-23: The heart prevails

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4466961


Jodha Akbar 24-27: Neeyat vs Niyati

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4470285

Jodha Akbar 28-30: The clearing of the decks

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/127006496


Jodha Akbar 31: The Emperor strikes back

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4473406


Jodha Akbar 32-34: Prelude to the storm

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4474878


Jodha Akbar 34-36: Shaahi Shaadi 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/127215144

Jodha Akbar: Turbulent beginnings

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4480617


Jodha Akbar 41-42: The  yo-yo effect

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4482333



Jodha Akbar 43-45: A smorgasbord

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4484574

Jodha Akbar 46-48: 50/100

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4487340&PID=127676489&#p127676489




Jodha Akbar 55-57: A raging storm

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4495162


Jodha Akbar 58-60: A poisonous miasma

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4497187


Jodha Akbar 61-64: The miasma lifts

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4499584


Jodha Akbar 65: Revelations

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4499588


Jodha Akbar 66-68: Changing equations

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4504661


Jodha Akbar 69-72a 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/128553490

 B.Cowsik



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Posted: 8 years ago
Jodha  begum into urdu mishrith Hindi after 400 yrs...'zindagi  jeene ka tareeka' instead of 'jeevan jeene ka dang'??????😲
The actor playing Murad  should  have  played  Salim or RT should  have. The show would probably  be  running  still as season  2.  His eyes resemble  RT's in close up shots.


PS looks pretty without  that proud-peacock  look she donned later. But she looked  best in shaahi shaadi  saptah!😳

Btw, why did she come all the  way running  to  catch the kabootar...only to let it fly again? Or did the bird fall  at such a wide  trajectory  that she ran across  the entire  palace and could catch  it still...

Jalal  in his blue jama...☺️

The lines...'the Rajvanshi's were  arguing  on how to defeat/kill Jalal...but they didn't  know that  they had in their armour  a weapon that could pierce his heart...Jodha '. ...was beautiful.

And Moti bhai was dropped so  soon...unlike  Khaibar  safari...yet she chose to jump into  the  fire?????😲 Buddhu ladki...It was a relief  to  watch  the  old Moti  Bai...πŸ˜ƒ

Mainavati probably never taught  Jodha  the value of silence and grace...😑 Always ready to speak impressive dialogues anytime  and everytime.
Edited by Sandhya.A - 8 years ago
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What a grand grand opening... πŸ‘

Majestic settings, great production values...truly a visual splendour on television...loved the opening episode...n loved our dearest RT...what a majestic stance!!

Azeemoshan Shehenshah. ...salutations!! πŸ‘πŸΌ

(PS:  Hypervati - πŸ€£)



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Is it really being air on zee Anmol please tell 
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Originally posted by: SHADESOFNATURE

Is it really being air on zee Anmol please tell 



yes it is from monday onwards and the timing is 0830 i believe!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Jodha Akbar 1:  Sound and Fury

Folks,

Here I am again, right at the beginning of a series that I had promised myself I would not touch again. Famous last words!πŸ˜‰ But Episodes 1-9 did not feature in the earlier list of (almost) daily analyses that I had done between June 30, 2013 and April 2014, so these will be, in that sense, new for me and for you too.

I have seen the charming posts on Episode 1 made,  later on this thread (I had reserved this place as soon as Mandy opened this thread!),  by Mandy and Khushi,  but my take on it will be somewhat different. I must confess that when I watched it on June 18, 2013, Om Puri and his Jalal = Jallad ranting got on my nerves so much that I detested the whole episode. Why No.1, I detested No.2 as well, and almost dropped out then itself. However, I thought I should wait at least till the end of the week, which was only of 4 days as the show opened on a Tuesday. By then, I  was fascinated by this young man and his Jalal, especially after the searing bitterness he brought to his scene with his estranged mother Hamida Bano, and I stayed. '

Which was a great piece of luck for me, for I would not have missed Rajat's Jalal for anything. Or the very large number of delightful friends I have made in this forum!

Anyway, enough of all this, and here goes!

Roohon ki baatein: The voices were softer than at any other time in such scenes shown later, and Jalal's was almost unrecognizably gentle. His Jodha, without the Begum, pleased me inordinately, as also that, in  a charming contrast with his irritating habit later, he does  not add Jodha Begum  in every sentence he utters, as if he was in danger of forgetting her name!πŸ˜‰

Now where do you suppose this scene in Hamara maqbara ,as Jodha puts it, is situated? The opening line, by Jalal, is  Tum yahan kya kar rahi ho, Jodha?, and she responds Aapko dekhne aayi hoon!  Which would put it at Sikandra, Akbar's mausoleum, which seems to be in remarkably good shape, and not in Jodha's  1 km or so away.

There is a lovely, throwaway line from Jalal next, Tum to khudh ko aaine mein dekh rahi ho!  It has deep, romantic implications, for she has come to see him, but now she looks in her mirror. Where she sees, not herself, but him, for he is part of her, indeed more. He is woven into the warp and woof of her being, and as Harry Potter when he looks into  the Mirror of Erised, Jodha looks into her aaina,  and she sees her heart's deepest desire, Jalal. It is an intensely moving line, but I wonder how many who watched it really grasped its true significance.

By the end of the scene, however, the magic faded away, and  my teeth were set on edge as Jalal intoned: Wo Jalal jo ek hi rang jaanta tha, ek hi rang samajhta tha, ek hi rang bahata tha, khoon ka rang. As if every young conqueror, from Alexander to Napoleon and all those in between,  with Asoka the Great in the first place,  did not do exactly the same thing!

Bharat ka itihaas a  la Balaji:  I did not expect the natakiya rupantar to begin with historical dates, no matter what they did to Chittor (the last quasi-historical track taken up by Ekta's CVs) later.

What does the  Balaji equivalent of a PPT say?

-66 years ago*: 1947:  Independence (*in 2013, of course)

- 156 years ago: 1857:  The  first war of independence

- 256 years ago: 1757: East India Company

-333 years ago: 1680: Veer Shivaji

-456 years ago: 1557: What seems to be the Second Battle of Panipat, though there is no Hemu, and the man Jalal executes (with entire justification, seeing that after the recumbent foe has chosen zindagi,  he rises and makes a cowardly attack on Jalal from the back) is only a subordinate, seeing that Jalal sends a fierce warning  to his king.

As far as the history I have studied goes, the Second Battle of Panipat was fought in 1556, on November 5, 1556 to be precise,  between Jalal/Bairam Khan and Hemu,  more than 30 years after the First Battle of Panipat, on April 21, 1526, between Babur and Ibrahim Lodi.

So what would you say this battle of 1557 was supposed to be?

I would say that it is due to an obsession with the number 6, possibly for numerological reasons. Thus 66/156/256/456 (they would not have dared to tamper with Shivaji Maharaj, otherwise he would have been shifted to 1683,   336 years ago!)! No one seems to have told this 6-obsessed Ekta that in Christian belief, 666 is the sign of Satan!πŸ˜‰

There are other very curious things about this battle.  In the opening shots, the soldiers on the left seem to be ambling along rather than rushing into battle. Worse, Jalal is shown riding all alone in full battle gear, a risky and unheard of manoeuvre.  His intense participation in the fighting is  in blatant contradiction of the historical fact that  Jalal, born on October 15, 1542, was only 14 years old at the time of the Second Battle of Panipat,  and that Bairam Khan did not let him participate  in the fighting. Why,  in Ekta's version, it seems to be a Jalal solo show, with Bairam Khan nowhere in evidence! The film did  this part  far more credibly and with greater historical accuracy.

The Jalal as Jallad ranting: But then Jalal has to be shown cutting down foes right and left instead of embracing them with daya aur prem. For Om Puri is here bent on asserting that Jalal  is a  beraham yoddha,  a bloodthirsty zaalim aur vaishi ( the CVs apparently forgot to add darinda!πŸ˜‰) and that his shamsheer ne khoon ka swaad chaka,  as though the shamsheers   of all the warriors seen  in Hindustan till then were raised on a milk diet.  πŸ˜‘

Even after that magnificent scene between  Bairam Khan and Jalal, when the shamsheer   is ceremonially handed over to the boy, Om Puri is at it again, with his lament about the zeher that he accuses Bairam Khan of having bharofied  into the young Jalal's ragein, ki uski soch mein insaniyat ki koyi keemat nahin thi. And then he begins to talk of Jalal nahin Jallad, jiski waqt ke saath kroorta badne lagi thi... By this time, I was close to gnashing my teeth, and I could  see why I could not stand this episode on June 18, 2013. 😑

However,  since at this point the brooding young Murad-to-be, perched  on a huge pedestal in the middle  of nowhere  like a  statue, had been replaced by apna Rajat,  with his handsome face and arrogant sneer, no one, at least none of the ladies, would have lent an ear to what Puri was babblingπŸ˜†. Which would have  been all for the best!πŸ˜‰

Bairam Khan: Naved Aslam is an excellent actor, whether as DK in Pavitra Rishta,as  Peter, Sultan Mirza's right hand man  in Once upon a time in Mumbai, or now. His Bairam Khan is as much, or more, a triumph of casting as of acting. He looks the role, and in comparison, the one in the film (blessedly very soon disposed of) was ludicrous.  As he intones:

Tum  soorma ho Jalal.. Fateh karna tumhara mazhab... Yeh shamsheer tumhari baandi.. Sultanat tumhari chahat...Beraham khauff tumhari shoharat..Fateh kar lo is mulq ko! ,

 he almost gave me goose pimples. Even the yoddha ke seene mein dil nahin hota mantra,which makes its  debut here, could not irritate me!  Bairam Khan's narrow face, with its deep-set, lambent eyes,  is imbued with one fierce and unwavering obsession, Mughal rule over all of  Hindustan, thru fear and force. He is wrong, of course, for no land this vast can be ruled for long by fear and force, but if it was a failing, it was in its way a magnificent one!

And the young Jalal matches him well, which is no easy feat, especially in the scene where  his Khan Baba blotches the map of Rajasthan with his blood. Obviously they had no fear of septicaemia in those days!πŸ˜‰

Kabootar aa, aa, aa: This part was as ludicrous the  second time around as it was at the first  showing.  But how on earth  does Jodha, who is clearly  a female, 16th century version of Usain Bolt, follow the fall trajectory of the  wounded pigeon? And then, when she releases it, it takes off as if it was not in the least hurt!πŸ˜‰

Sujamal scores: Of the Jodha-Sukanya spatting, the less said the better. But I liked the tulabhar  scene, and   the subtle, double significance of Sujamal's gift. Firstly, Saraswati trumped Lakshmi, and secondly, Sujamal trumped all the rest!

Mandir  ki loot:  I was again exasperated by the Ameri soldier asserting Jab se yeh Mughal aaye hain, tabse humare mandiron ki dharohar loot rahe hain,  as if this had not been done time and again by any number of conquerors from Muhammad Ghazni downwards.😑

But with that, and on top of that, the second assertion that Mughal sainikon ka ek hi sardar hai, Badshah Jalaluddin Muhammad (as if  the Shahenshah would be at all aware of 80% of what is being done in his name), Jodha's fuse is well and properly  lit. And not without reason, for the buck stops with the Shahenshah, and he is responsible for all the acts of his subordinates, whether he knows about them or not, whether he had ordered them or not.

Not that Jalaluddin Muhammad, with his trademark half sneer, seems at all bothered by such matters right now!

Oh Lord, see how, long this has become! Bye for now, folks!

 

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di

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Can't wait...πŸ˜†Edited by ---Khushi--- - 8 years ago
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Watching first epi for first time ...it begin finnaly n it's so good 
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