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NONIE

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Posted: 8 years ago

I learned a lot about ashoka 😃

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999318

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Posted: 8 years ago

Can any1 share any info. About sushim's wives or any connection of ujjain with magadh? Coz lyk i wanna know if this track is totally fiction or is der any truth in it?? Plz share!

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Kanchhi_
Awesome thread!! Two historical events of Ashoka's life where luckily I've visited as well. :D.
One, after when he accepted Buddism, he came to Birthplace of Buddha, Lumbini, and built a "Stambh" Pillar and it's called "Ashok Stambh" It also has the "Shilalekh" where it's mentioned that he was there and all.
Second is,He went to then Capital of kingdom of Nepal with his daughter Charumati where she built a "Vihar" which is still called "Charumati Vihar". Later she was married off to the Prince (I forgot his name, either Dipanker or Dikpal).

Here's a link of old Dursarshan series based on Chankaya's life story. I've been (binge😃) watching. It's quite fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnRN9DGOS4

thanks for link
it was awesome serial by dr. chandraprakash dwivedi

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Brishti Sarkar

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: love_chitra
Can any1 share any info. About sushim's wives or any connection of ujjain with magadh? Coz lyk i wanna know if this track is totally fiction or is der any truth in it?? Plz share!

Well Sushima wasn't connected to Ujjain. Ujjain has some rebellion going on. AFAIK they weren't in good terms with Mauryans. Ashoka was sent to Ujjain to suppress the rebels. He was incharge of Ujjain to suppress the revolts, and Sushima was governor of Taxila.

And Sushima's wives, definitely he must have been married. 😆 Well the winners write history to Sushim's history isn't collected or preserved or the information has not been written down at all because after he was assassinated by Ashoka, he isn't mentioned in Ashokavadhana anymore.

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Putija

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Posted: 8 years ago

|Chanakya The Legend

Son of rishi Canak, Chanakya, also known as Kautilya or Vishnugupta, was born in Pataliputra,Magadh (modern Bihar), and later moved to Taxila, in Gandhar province(now in Pakistan). At a very early age little Chanakya started studying Vedas. The Vedas; considered to be the toughest scriptures to study were completely studied and memorized by Chanakya in his infancy. He was attracted to studies in politics. In politics Chanakya's acumen and shrewdness was visible right from childhood. He was a student of politics right from child hood. Known as a masterful political strategist, He knew how to put his own people in the opposite camp and spy the enemy without his knowledge before destroying him forever. Chanakya was an ace in turning tables in his favor irrespective of the circumstances. He never budged to pressure tactics by the ruthless politicians. In this way after studying religion and politics, he turned his attention to economics, which remained his lifelong friend. "Nitishastra", a treatise on the ideal way of life shows his in depth study of the Indian way of lifeHe was a professor (acharya) of political science at the Takshashila University and later the Prime Minister of the Emperor Chandragupta Maurya. He is regarded as one of the earliest known political thinkers, economists and king-makers. He was the man to envision the first Indian empire by unification of the then numerous kingdoms in the Indian sub-continent and provide the impetus for fights against the Greek conqueror Alexander.

Chanakya is perhaps less well known outside India compared to other social and political philosophers of the world like Confucius and Machiavelli. His foresight and wide knowledge coupled with politics of expediency helped found the mighty Mauryan Empire in India. He compiled his political ideas into the 'Arthashastra', one of the world's earliest treatises on political thought and social order. His ideas remain popular to this day in India. In Jawaharlal Nehru's Discovery of India, Chanakya has been called the Indian Machiavelli. Three books are attributed to Chanakya: Arthashastra, Nitishastra and Chanakya Niti. Arthashastra (literally 'the Science of Material Gain' in Sanskrit) is arguably the first systematic book on economics. It discusses monetary and fiscal policies, welfare, international relations, and war strategies in details. Many of his nitis or policies have been compiled under the book title Chanakya Niti. Nitishastra is a treatise on the ideal way of life, and shows Chanakya's in depth study of the Indian way of life. According to a legend, while Chanakya served as the Prime Minister of Chandragupta Maurya, he started adding small amounts of poison in Chandragupta's food so that he would get used to it. The aim of this was to prevent the Emperor from being poisoned by enemies. One day the queen, Durdha, shared the food with the Emperor while she was pregnant. Since she was not used to eating poisoned food, she died. Chanakya decided that the baby should not die; hence he cut open the belly of the queen and took out the baby. A drop (bindu in Sanskrit) of poison had passed to the baby's head, and hence Chanakya named him Bindusara. Bindusara would go on to become a great king and to father the greatest Mauryan Emperor since Chandragupta - Asoka.

When Bindusara became a youth, Chandragupta gave up the throne and followed the Jain saint Bhadrabahu to present day Karnataka and settled in a place known as Sravana Belagola. He lived as an ascetic for some years and died of voluntary starvation according to Jain tradition. Chanakya meanwhile stayed as the Prime Minister of Bindusara. Bindusara also had a minister named Subandhu who did not like Chanakya. One day he told Bindusara that Chanakya was responsible for the murder of his mother. Bindusara asked the nurses who confirmed this story and he became very angry with Chanakya. It is said that Chanakya, on hearing that the Emperor was angry with him, thought that anyway he was at the end of his life. He donated all his wealth to the poor, widows and orphans and sat on a dung heap, prepared to die by total abstinence from food and drink. Bindusara meanwhile heard the full story of his birth from the nurses and rushed to beg forgiveness of Chanakya. But Chanakya would not relent. Bindusara went back and vent his fury on Subandhu, who asked for time to beg for forgiveness from Chanakya. Subandhu, who still hated Chanakya, wanted to make sure that Chanakya did not return to the city. So he arranged for a ceremony of respect, but unnoticed by anyone, slipped a smoldering charcoal ember inside the dung heap. Aided by the wind, the dung heap swiftly caught fire, and the man behind the Mauryan Empire and the author of Arthashastra was burned to death. His main philosophy was "A debt should be paid off till the last penny; An enemy should be destroyed without a trace". He seemed to have lived - and died - by his philosopy.a paradigm shift. It has also emphasized the need for original and path breaking legal research to create new legal knowledge and ideas that will help meet these new challenges in a manner responsive to the needs of the country and ideals and goals of our Constitution.

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Ne kt

@Kanchhi_

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Posted: 8 years ago

Why everybody abandoned this thread?

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dontinvademars

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark
Thanks for this thread! Just the place I needed. I am enjoying the show and watching it for entertainment.. And I don't except undistorted history. But a basic structure is necessary. How come there are Muslims in that period? Characters like Meer Khurassan. They seem Islam by their costumes, names Etc. But it is impossible for Islam religion to exist at that time.

I've read many posts of people asking the same question: Islam didn't exist back then how come mir khurasan and noor are muslims in the show etc etc.

The religion Islam was established Exactly 1436 years ago by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). He was the last prophet to fight for Islam and succeeded!

Before him there were 120.000 other prophets who tried to establish Islam but didn't succeed so yes there were prophets before 1436 years but they weren't succesful in establishing islam in their respective countries/nations..so there is no possiblity that mir khurasan and noor were muslims at that time living in India..seriously cvs????

Edited by ILoveRamKapoor - 8 years ago

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Abhay

@history_geek

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Posted: 8 years ago

Hi all,

I am back with a new post. The topic this time is quite different from the usual debate about Emperor Asoka. This post aims to critically examine the veracity of the information contained in ancient texts about Asoka, including Buddhist, Tibetan and Sanskrit texts.

According to these texts, Asoka slew 99 of his brothers to occupy the throne of Magadha. This post analyses the circumstances in which Asoka ascended the throne of Magadha and whether he was truly guilty of fratricide on a mass scale.

The post is not only limited to the above topic. This post also aims to answer various questions like:-

1. Did Asoka kill Susima? If yes, then why and how ?

2. Was Asoka extremely ruthless and highly ambitious in his early youth ?

3. Who did Bindusara want to succeed him to the throne - Asoka or Susima ?

4. Who was Rani Dharma? Was she a commoner or a royal princess ?

I have made use of as many traditions and accounts as possible whose names are present in the post itself. English, Sanskrit, Pali, German, etc. scans from those texts are present along with them.

Here is the Link to the Post:

Mauryan Emperor Asoka Killed 99 brothers to get the Throne | Fact or Myth ? And other Questions | A Debate

Link of Forum Thread:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/4467011

Edited by history_geek - 8 years ago

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capricornrcks

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Posted: 8 years ago

China is apparently unveiling an Ashoka pillar that they have restored in Nangchen, an old Tibetan town.It is one of the 19 Ashoka pillars in China.

Check out the rest of the story at http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lost-ashoka-stupa-set-to-be-unveiled-in-china/1/472234.html

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siyakeraghav

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Posted: 8 years ago

I was surprised to read mention of Mauryas especially Chandragupta Maurya and Ashoka(mentioned as Ashokavardhana) in Bhagavat Mahapuran 12th chapter while listing the

future monarchs in the kali age. There was also mention of nanda dynasty but no mention of

any other dynasty we know historically.

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