Gangster, Antagonist, Parallel Lead, Revenge

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would have accepted Sultan's story if there was any logic behind his character and whatever he does. His whole character a gangster does not make sense to me.

Sultan was introduced as a Gangster why it makes sense for the CV's to introduce him as such, was to pave the way for a Rishbala reunion. RK being the better choice for Madhu, I was not happy when I saw he was going to be a gangster rather than a rival filmstar of RK's, had that been his profession it would have made him the better choice for Madhu.

He still is an antagonist, as RK gets upset doesn't he on the mere sight of Sultan. Every action Sultan does antagonises RK. So he is fulfilling what they told us he would be and also because he is a parallel lead and that's why he is having him with his own storyline also, however they are linked. I don't know for sure if they are brothers, I'm waiting to see Radha's reactions today and if soon she is going to reveal if she knew about Meera. The precap is looking like she might know. Otherwise on seeing RK fighting, she would have been shouting his name "Rishu, Rishu" and telling Bittuji to go and hold him separate them, instead look at her expression and whole demeanor...she looks terrified, I think if she knows and possibly she is paying the hospital bills for Meera having been told in the suicide letter maybe by her husband about Meera then we can believe the story Sultan has been told by Rashid. A lot of people are saying Sultan should have waited to confront RK or go see Radhaji when he had more proof, but perhaps Radha herself can testify to the truth of this story, she is honest always has been, most likely she will. If its not true it's a conspiracy and we wait to see if it is, but in the meantime it's going to be interesting whilst we wait and Interactions in the house between RK and Sultan, RK and Aryan, Sultan and Madhu, I think those interactions would be good viewing.

Why take revenge from RK for something he has not done.
RK is not responsible for his mother's state nor his. The man who was is dead.
This is all because he hates RK and has been since they introduced him.
He hates RK because what he represents. A superstar who has everything money, fame and good life, which he does not have.
What Sultan does not know is that RK has also has a hard life. Seeing his father hanging from the ceiling, loosing everything money, home.
His mother had to marry a man like Kukuji.
Deepali rejected him because he had no money and fame.
That was the point that made RK today what he is.
Madhu has now accepted his RK and Rishab side.
If Sultan thinks that RK got this easy, then he is so wrong.
As they say, "Other side always look greener".

Revenge for a dead man it maybe but that dead man gave away his son, without caring for his welfare if he was fed (he paid Rashid only for a few months that's it, looked after or even if he was educated (at 8 years old he was abducted by a gang that killed Nazia, she lay dying on the floor, watching from the door as they took Sultan away) that means he had no formal education because of his father's actions, Meera Mohan's first wife went into a mental asylum because of his actions, so even though RK didn't know if Radha knows they must recompense Meera and Sultan ...Mohan Kundra's property the Sitara studios and the freehold land of RK mansion sell it and split the money. Normally people apologise yes and also give the legal entitlement, though he doesn't want anything else from them then just for them to stop honouring Mohan Kundra as a person of good character (respectable), by them splitting everything down the middle it's a recognition that a wrong was done and they are trying to make everything right. Doesn't matter if he doesn't want the money, he can give away to a charity for orphan kids or better abandoned kids because he was also abandoned. Meanwhile he can also put his mum in therapy to make her adjust to the change in time.


Sultan does think RK had a better life than he did, but I think comparing to what Sultan had, lack of education, taught to be a killer by gangs when just 8 years old, RK had it better with his mum Radha were wealthy, he was not on the street, he didn't need to struggle for his meals, his education, instead what we had with Rishabh is he put up a barrier after feeling his mother gave her love to someone else and stopped taking care of him, but she didn't stop taking care of him, he was fed, educated all of that perhaps he took for granted but Sultan didn't have that. RK had love of both parents until he was 12 years old as well, he could have had his mothers love after the death of his father but chose to put her at arms length, because she married again. But she didn't know anything about raising a son, she thought to do what's best, and married to give him a male role model, that was what Radha was thinking. Sultan married but his wife died in an accident when Aryan was a baby. So similarly to how RK thinks those that loved him and left him, here Sultan also the same. But I really think despite everything RK went through Sultan had it worse.
Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Really nice post Nafs👏


I took two things home from your post.

1. Radha might know everything about MK-Meera.

If this is the case, then why does she worship a man like MK? When RK was cruel to Madhu, why did she always gave example of MK to him? Was it because she didn't want to break that good image of MK that RK had and wanted to bring him onto the right path by giving example of MK? Maybe🤔

But now, if she really knows the truth, then wouldn't RK again distance himself from her? What will happen to the equation of Radha-RK's relation?? Interesting😆 I guess if Radha knows everything, then RK would be more heatbroken than what he would be after learning his father's rangeen kissey. And that would be enough to make him ruthless again and not trust in relationships anymore because they have always been a joke for him.

This brings another question, Will RishBala's relationship's equation also change?😕


2. Sultan's life has been worse than RK.

I agree with you till some extent on this one. RK got unadulterated love of his parents till the age of 12 and after that he got a house to live in and food to eat and education also. Whereas Sultan was homeless and didn't receive any education also. This point is very much VALID👏

But Sultan always have had the advantage of PURE relationships which RK didn't have. Sultan always considered Razia to be his mother and she was killed. But that doesn't make her coward or prove that her love was untrue. Whereas RK's father committed suicide and all the promises he made to RK stood hollow. His father became a coward infront of his own eyes.

Sultan's wife passed away, but she never BETRAYED him for another man. RK's girlfriend and love betrayed him for his own step brother. Another dhokha.

Sultan was alone but his mother never married another man who was EVIL. Radhaji married evil Kukku Bhatia and we still don't know how he treated RK. He must have tormented him.


So all in all, while RK's surrounding have been better than Sultan's, I feel except for Rashid, Sultan always had better people in his life.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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hmmm...a good discussion. will come bak
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thank you for liking my post Chakku. 👍🏼

With regards to Radhaji, yes that's what I was thinking that because RK held his father is such high esteem, she didn't want to tell him that his father was married before, when she initially received the news when RK was younger, I'm thinking Mohan Kundra's suicide note told her about Meera and the father's first wife was in a mental hospital. Now RK' grown she thought let me leave well enough alone, why spoil a man's reputation and disillusion my son.

Radha's character and we can possibly conclude in this way, because Radhaji all that time RK was giving her the silent treatment and he insulting her, for her marriage and taking her love away from him, she never told him at least I'm here, the person you hold in high regard your father committed suicide and left us alone. I made sure to give you another father as you needed a male role model. She was astute enough perhaps that to destroy MK's memory would have made RK rebel even more against her and probably even leave home, become street child also, instead she waited him out until he was ready to patch up with her and he returned to her.

About Sultan's life being worse than RK's, I think I will still stand by that Chakku, though it's true you've looked at RK's father's promises to him being unfulfilled and perhaps society calling your father a coward, kids at school perhaps repeating what their parents were discussing about your father, maybe that might be hard on a 12 year old, so I'm not discounting his anguish, he was close to his father. Dipali's betrayal seeing the girl he loves marrying his own step brother and then she comes and lives together with them in the same house, yes it stung and perhaps that's why he mistrusted girls also and it was hard for him with Madhu to give into love, even though he could see she loved him, test after test on Madhu all Dipali's doing. Kukuji we can't assume too much perhaps he illtreated RK, but many people that are hard working high achievers will say it's because of the strictness of their parents and all these betrayals were feeding him to achieve more.

How I see it is the difference here between RK's betrayal's and lack of or requirement of love and understanding from MK, Radha, Dipali, Kukuji and Sultans needs of lack of shelter, food and an education do still point to Sultan being worse off then RK, his needs are basic requirements any child should have to live and he was deprived of them. But I understand if you still think RK's needs should not be ignored completely as though he had basic needs fulfilled he was still very much alone from year 12 until 29, but RK was very stubborn not to allow his mother to come close and love him as she wanted to do. It's funny but just in one conversation at the mandir on the steps Radhaji and RK talked and were able to resolve his problems, but I still think how Radha left him to come to her was the best way now, though at the time I was thinking why doesn't she solve things with him, but his a man you know you can't push until they are ready.

Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Agree with:
Why take revenge from RK for something he has not done.
RK is not responsible for his mother's state nor his. The man who was is dead.
This is all because he hates RK and has been since they introduced him.
He hates RK because what he represents. A superstar who has everything money, fame and good life, which he does not have.
What Sultan does not know is that RK has also has a hard life. Seeing his father hanging from the ceiling, loosing everything money, home.
His mother had to marry a man like Kukuji.
Deepali rejected him because he had no money and fame.
That was the point that made RK today what he is.
Madhu has now accepted his RK and Rishab side.
If Sultan thinks that RK got this easy, then he
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice anlalization Nafts. In my opinion some time it is not all the time what you got in life it is how you take and accept what you have ad be positive. In RK's case even he was provided with all the physical comforts mentally he was not happy with it for loosing his dad and loosing his mom in some way even though he did not loose his mother physically but in his mind he lost her so he became bitter towards life. same thing happen with Deepali blackly until he met Madhu he met all the selfish people in life and that is what he learn growing up and that why he behaves some time selfishly because that is what life taught him unless you are possessive you will loose what you have.

Where as for Sultan even though he did not have lot of comforts he was loved by adopted mother he knows the feeling of love and caring that is why even his profusion is a gangster he was never showed aggressive and selfish towards people and he believe in caring and sensitive to words other people as long as e thinks they are good people that is why when he met madhu and saw what she is his feelings for her became caring and friendship and gratitude. That is why people making fun of him saying he is a gangster why he is mushy mushy he should be stronger and ruthless and should not feel for girl he just met. His sensitive feelings towards people is nothing to do with his profusion he believe in relationships that is what we are seeing now in him how he treat his mother.

I think the whole point of CV's is to show how people look at things regardless how they grow up they want to show the differences between Sultan and RK from the beginning in their behaviors. They both are completely different personalities and have lot of contrast between them. This why some people like rk ad some like Sultan depend up on how you understood the character

Sorry for the essay

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with Radhaji being the next victim of Sultan's image makeover. They are hell bent on giving him a golden heart, doesn't matter which established character you butcher for it. They didn't spare the leads, Radhaji kya cheez hai..? Kal qurbaan hojaaye..

I don't think ANYTHING will justify Sultan's vengeance directed at RK, no matter who had it better or who worse. It is total BS.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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No matter how much money you have or all the luxuries, if you are not mentally happy. No amount of worldly things or objects will make you happy.


As they say " Money Can Buy Everything But Can not Buy Love Or Mental Piece".

Sultan may have not worldly things and had rough childhood, but he was surrounded by people who did love him and did not betray him.

What RK is seen is Betrayal. There is nothing worse then being betrayed by the people you love,

1st. His father betrayed him, by killing him self.
2nd. He counted his mother marrying another man, as betrayal.
3rd. When a woman whom you see could spend your life with betrays you for another man, on top of it that he is his own step brother.


If the cv's butcher Radhaji's character just so that GHG can take revenge.

For me nothing can justify the revenge that Sultan will take on RK and Radhaji.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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good post dear nafisa 😳👏may be Radhaji know about sultan & meera

nafisa i believed that sultan is not
Mohan Kundra's son😳
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3620174/bhai-ka-baap-koin-hai

I think sultan is kuku bhatiya's son

i think that its a big master plan made by some dangerous person against RK😔


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3634091/sfd-article-new-twist-in-madhubala😆😉


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sultan had a very caring and devoted mother till he was eight and she got murdered. Sorry, disagree with you that he had to go into this gangster profession. He accepted in one episode that he chose this way of life, he wasn't forced to live this life. That old Kaka was always around to help him, he wasn't totally alone. DO all kids who find their parents murdered end up killing the murderers? Do all orphans become gangsters?

I agree, Sultan hasn't had an easy life, but, RK too never had it easy. Whatever RK is today, is just coz of his hard work. Why should he give any part of his hard earned property to Sultan. His father MAY have had a fling, haven't yet accepted that as truth, but RK never did anything wrong. RK never hurt Meera or Sultan. So what kind of revenge is it? What's the proof that Meera/Rashid are telling the truth? If RK had inherited property from MK, then there could be some chance of splitting up that part of the property ... but no one can claim anything from RK's personal property which is thanks to his hard work and stardom.

As to your saying Radhaji looked terrified, which mom wouldn't be terrified on seeing a gangster at work rampaging and destroying things she has cherished all her life?

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