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Tapu! It aint EVIL! - Page 7

Posted: 13 years ago
That is an excuse. If she has not murdered him, she could not be convicted. Like Veer. He has  not committed any offense. Once there will be investigations truth will come out. So even if your Tappu is innocent in the death of Vansh and not committed any crime there is nothing to be afraid. She could just corroborate the entire incidence. But now hiding (probably playing more games to evade the investigation) she will be in more trouble. Once it is discovered that she was at the crime site with the last person with the victim, obviously she will be in neck-deep trouble and then no body will believe her any words or explanations. 

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Posted: 13 years ago
This content was originally posted by: lambooo

That is an excuse. If she has not murdered him, she could not be convicted. Like Veer. He has  not committed any offense. Once there will be investigations truth will come out. So even if your Tappu is innocent in the death of Vansh and not committed any crime there is nothing to be afraid. She could just corroborate the entire incidence. But now hiding (probably playing more games to evade the investigation) she will be in more trouble. Once it is discovered that she was at the crime site with the last person with the victim, obviously she will be in neck-deep trouble and then no body will believe her any words or explanations. 



oh dear
ji im sure u know as well as i do about the botched up and corrupt indian legal system๐Ÿ˜† its simply has so many cases on its hand they cant do everyone justice! and believe me there are many innocents put behind bars these days! if they cant prove their innocence then they are stuck!
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oh dear
ji im sure u know as well as i do about the botched up and corrupt indian legal system๐Ÿ˜† its simply has so many cases on its hand they cant do everyone justice! and believe me there are many innocents put behind bars these days! if they cant prove their innocence then they are stuck!

 
Yes but this is a tv serial and here they dare not show the law being corrupt and Tappu getting away. They dont want their serial to flop. Do u think if they show Tappu saying sorry to everyone and they applauding her for her brave acceptance and then forgive her. Veer then starts to live happily with her and Icha in the corner crying again alone. No person in their sense will accept such rubbish.
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Yes but this is a tv serial and here they dare not show the law being corrupt and Tappu getting away. They dont want their serial to flop. Do u think if they show Tappu saying sorry to everyone and they applauding her for her brave acceptance and then forgive her. Veer then starts to live happily with her and Icha in the corner crying again alone. No person in their sense will accept such rubbish.



well of course not even I wouldnt like this๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 13 years ago
Well Tapu is d main vamp of this show and vamps r duty bound to do all d evil na ๐Ÿ˜† otherwise how will story proceed  ?
 
 
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Posted: 13 years ago
yes u wudnt accept this. but then u also want veer and tapasya to live happily ever after. This is no fairy tale my dear. and fairy princesses dont attempt murder or plot evil plans. So its better to come out of fairy tale land and grow up. The ways of the world aint that simple.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello! Well since everyone is still wondering how some of us can still possibly not hate Tapu after everything shes done and Im sick of explaining the same thing in every post I thought I may make it official once and for all!๐Ÿ˜Š I dunno bout other Tapu supporters but i'll give my view!๐Ÿ˜Š

Evil for me is an extremely strong word! I dont use it rashly or for just ANY purpose! I define a person has become evil when they have no regard for human life left! When they lose their heart and their humanity in every way. When they cannot feel emotions like regret...guilt or love for anyone~...they cannot feel scared...they dont fear god any longer and they can do absolutely ANYTHING to acheive their own selfish ends! When they take pleasure in watching someone die! These are people like Bin Laden...who can deviously plan to kill 6000 innocent people...without batting an eyelid or ever feeling remorse or regret. In fact such people dont even stop! These people's minds have not only been corrupted but their heart is also beyond repair! People who its proven care for no one but themselves! Ammaji from Laado is another example! She can do absolutely anything...she kidnapped a girl and handed her over to a rapist so she could escape jail! She killed an innocent girl for wanting to marry outside her caste! She has long since done very evil things and how easily she can threaten to kill! People like Mogambo in hindi films...Gabbar Singh from Sholay...the Raja Sahab from Koyla or the Amrish Puri character from Karan Arjun.

Then theres Tapu! I know she has done many wrong things like bride swap...murder attempt...photo exhibition and letter swap. But I cannot see any of those things except the murder attempt as defining actual EVIL! Even someone who tries to commit murder once is not necessarily evil but the act was evil I admit. But I see tapu as a 23 year old girl with a childish and immature nature whos 10 year hatred towards Ichha, fuelled and encouraged by Satan Nani, has developed inside her extreme anger...which bursts out of her at times in the form of her ego...or mostly as just uncontrollable anger! The childhoos scenes were natural! It was jealousy and completely understandable! No child is born evil!

Now obviously the bride swap was just to not let Ichha have what she felt was her right! But I was shocked by the madness that propelled her to cut her wrist...its like she had really lost her senses! Cutting ur wrist is not easy! It needs guts! That just made me feel more sorry for her cos I wondered what had possibly happened to make her develop SUCH an obsessional hatred for Ichha! Blinded by this...she could not see that Veer not accepting her was her own fault and in a fit of anger she tried to throw a vase at her...again she had lost her senses! She was behaving insane! Then came the murder attempt which I will admit was horrible! But again I could not see the satisfaction in her eyes as she watched Ichha in hospital...so again I felt bad for her! Her scared prayers to bhagvan again reiterated to me how she was just a child...immature scared and vulnerable and again her anger and ego had made her do something she at that moment regreted! Also the fact that she drew no pleasure from it told me her humantiy was still there! She had not lost it yet! She has never tried to murder again!

Then came the letter postage to Vansh, the lie to her family and the letter swap and the photo exhibition! There was nothing EVIL about that just the stupid games her head made her do because she had now become obsessed in her love for Veer and at all costs wanted him back! Also because she still was under the perception that her failed marriage was Ichha's fault! She wanted ichha to be miserable as long as she was! Again ego and anger were the main culprits but she became very scared! Those who still fear God arent evil because when they become evil they think THEY are the most powerful...that theres nothing above them!

Then there was the whole park scene with Veer...which is the most disgusting thing shes done but again I couldnt hate her...her ego and anger was again at action telling her that Veer had to grovel to her and she got satisfaction from that cos she thought it healed wounds of his insult that night! She wanted him to feel insulted like she had felt! Another stupid selfish disgusting action but not evil!

The entire SR fiasco second time...I had said if she forced Veer into sleeping with her then I would lose everything I felt for her but I knew in my heart that she would never force him...she wouldnt be sooo cheap as to do that! She wanted love not satisfaction. I cannot tell u my joy when i saw that SBS segment that proved me right! Again told me that she is not evil or cheap just poor innocent misled and having a mind full of hatred...but her heart was still fine. Then the entire honeymoon sequences, the Bepanah Pyar sequences and when Veer filled her maang with sindoor I remember the way she genuinely became emotional! if u remember the day Veer had to fill it in front of her parents when he came to get her back...she was looking at him with satisfaction with a smirk on her face. but this time 4th June epi...there was not a sign of that! It was all genuine! Again told me she really does love Veer...but that her hatred was drowning that emotion at many times and it wasnt coming to the top but remaining buried deep below!

Then came the Delhi scenes which made me pity her again. The day she refused to help Veer clean really annoyed me but again...ego and anger...she was still upset that Veer lied to her! but then she stayed kindly with him in Delhi for the remainder of the time..sometimes she became upset but I remember her offering to iron his shirt...helped him organise the party...looked after the guests and was so sweet that morning! Her innocence totally came out in Delhi and I thought...now look! If she stayed AWAY from Ichha and Nani...had her own house where she had responsibilities and there was only Veer with her who took care of her and made her feel normal again...she would heal and get cured in no time! Alas for me...the cvs brought them back!

Then came Sid's stalker behaviour! Now the fact that she was afraid...feeling alone...the way she latched onto Veer for comfort and solace again made me feel her innocence..the way she talked to her mom that day...very genuine. Again she still held Ichha responsible for the troubles in her life! The pity increased...especially as I could see her hurt by Veer's indifference towards her!

Then came Vansh's suicide! Now i know everyone flew off the handle here but think about it! Vansh came and pointed the gun at her head and threatened to kill...what could she do? I admit she shudve stopped when he lowered the gun but again her blindness as to what she had done wrong as she spoke to Vansh again increased the pity! her intention was never to hurt ot kill him! She oversaid many things in anger but never did she think he would shoot himself! Remember she didnt know he was suicidal! She wasnt there to witness the previous times he had attempted suicide and remember she had also attempted sucide once upon a time...but she wasnt suicidal! The look in her eyes as Vansh put the gun to himself then the shock...the horror as he pulled the trigger then the look of wanting to help him as she reached for him as he swayed...then repeatedly went near him as he lied there...unsure of what to do she was in absolute shock. She wudve stayed there had Veer not arrived there! And even then she didnt leave immediately! She was pondering what to do in a panic but obviously she ran ..because she knew she could never find the evidence to prove she hadnt shot him! We saw her horror as she washed her face and remembered everything as she hid in her bed...childish innocence to me cos evil people dont hide in their bed! Nor do they dwell on what happened! She felt bad!

Even now I can see she is not evil! Her reaction when Veer was accused told me she loves him! She said she couldnt allow Veer to get her sazaaa that she couldnt stay quiet but she was afraid...her whole life would be ruined if she opened her mouth...obviously she wudnt unless they were about to charge Veer for Vansh's murder and send him to prison! And I dont think her intention was to poison Mai against Ichha! Again though ichha had put her into an impossible position! How ichha could think that of veer was comepletely beyond anyone! Naturally Tapu would be upset by it!

So I say she is not evil but she is on the wrong path because thats where her obsessional hatred has put her! As long as her heart can still feel emotions like guilt...love...that she still knows Veer cannot take her sazaa...she is not smirking or smiling or pleased atm...she is not evil! Because evil is a very strong word! The day her heart becomes devoid of emotions...I will know she has turned evil! This is my definition of evil!

I love Tapu...I cannot hate her! I have often felt anger and disgust at her actions but I cannot hate her! Its like if ur own sister turns evil...you can feel disgust and anger and distance urself for sometime but u cant hate them...u still love them...because they are a part of u! I feel this for Tapu!

I know this post is long but ive put every feeling of mine out! So please read this b4 u decide to ask us again how we can feel she is not evil!๐Ÿ˜Š




SRKLuver...I can understand from what point u r coming...but still can't agree....
As per ur def of EVIL...I wd term that as 'barbaric'

But rest of explanations....No Tapu is not innocent.....
She get scared...but for hers well being only.....what if she wd get caught....
Luv can cure her...may be.....Ichha luved her unconditionally.....Her parents still luv her.....They never ignored her or put Ichha above her....they tried to treat her equally......Nani..though tech her wrong things but still luv her...
Its purely her jealousy/hatred...despite whatever Ichha does for her.....this can't be termed as Innocence either...

And when u talk abt smirk or other expressions.....I'll say u can't see whats going in a person's mind.....So in serials they play evil music in background to depict that if person is acting goody-2 but is evil in heart.....so even if smirk is missing and evil music is there...it depicts her state of mind....(though CV's can always mislead viewers with this if they decide to change tracks later on)....but as per current situation...I'll assume that music as her state of mind....

Examples of evil ppl u gave...I agree they have far more degree of badness in them...But Tap is also Bad...not just selfish...as she thinks of causing bad to others or harming others for her minuscule selfish motives.....
And her luv for Veer is also not true love....as it started with greed...and she still thinks of herself first compared to Veer...while love also means sacrifice or adjustments....For me that too is kind of she want to win over all best things for herself....Veer is just an asset for him that she wants to win over....

I don't favor Ichha as I know she has so many flaws.....so don't take my post in that regard as well....


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Posted: 13 years ago
A normal misled person does not have obsessional hatred towards people. Ruining a person's life and that too ur best friend is nothing close to being normal...she needs proper therapy and should be in some institutional facility getting her brain rewired