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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ah but where the 'moulding ' goes , women should not get very unreal  or lose touch with fundamental realities. Some realities Are unchangeable ............... eras have changed , we drive cars instead of riding horses and use guns while fighting instead of swords but some biological facts remain same like
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Women become pregnant and give birth to children NOT men
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The sex drive in men is hormonally far more than in women , thats the way GOd made them
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So if women think 'moulding' men enables them to tamper with fundamental facts of nature they are going to be in for a nasty surprise.  The powers of women are as limited as the powers of man . A man cannot conceive and give birth to his own baby even if he decides never to need a woman in his life ..........either he will have to adopt one , or if he wishes to see his own , he will HAVE to consummate with a woman . Similiarly , if a woman denies man sex for too long , he will either stray and look for it outside or force himself on her at home. What will NOT happen is he will remain like a monk as years flit by just because the woman is NOT yet ready . He is structured that way , will always have lesser control than a woman . These realities don't change.
 
There is no question of whose fault it is etc . We cannot afford to be immature and childish here and live in deliberate dream worlds where we fantasize about the extent of our powers and our influence on men and how we can 'mould' them . Neiother does this mean we should be scared of this fact and give ourselves up to men on demand ...thats not the issue here . All I am saying is this is the reality and we can only do so much ...........we have to know our limits. However beautiful a wife is , howmuchever a man may be in love with her , curbing his sexual desire for days if she plays hard to get  is NOT easy for him , his body isnt wired that way . He seeks emotional intimacy thru physical intimacy . If bulls don't get grass on their daily turf , they slowly venture towards greener pastures. Human beings are animals too , let us not delude ourselves here.
 
Shakti's crude example sheds one reality check........even during pregnancy months it is difficult for men to abstain for long . In case the teeny boppers who idolise Pratigya don't know this fact , when a woman becomes pregnant after a certain point the doctor calls the couple and advises them to abstain and tells this ESPECIALLY to the man . Why ? Coz the man is wired that way , blunt fact , take it or leave it . Educated , uneducated , sensitive , unsensitive doesn't work here , reality is reality . Well Krishna has been abstaining , without any rhyme or reason , for so long now.
 
If he had done exactly what Shakti has been doing , bringing prostitutes home during her HAte spree where she repulsed him every night and fought with him by hurling insults , what would she have done ? What would she have told the world....that he is NOT justified in seeking sex outside coz I am NOt giving it to him deliberately as a punishment ? And I am going to do it for LIFE yet he shud be loyal to a non existent relationship ? Any sense in this ? With what face wud she have defended herself or reprimanded him ? Coz not giving him physical intimacy was HER choice , he is free to seek it outside then , isnt he ? Fair , right ?
 
But the Maharani didnt face this situation coz she got an amazing man . One who loved her truly and remained loyal to her , struggling with his biological needs. She on the other hand remained choor in her ghamand that all this was due to her spirit and strength as a woman , and went on taking his love for granted .
 
Yes , men stray even if their wives are nOT witholding physical intimacy at home , just for the fun or heck of it . It proves my point even more .That those who do it even when everything is ok at home , see how much the possibility of their straying is if  they are deliberately kept away  in a marraige . Do young girls really think they will ADMIT to them about having affairs etc outside if they choose to be like Pratigya ? Men wont be as stupid as Shakti to bring women at hiome. The Straying will indeed start ........there are offices , parties , prostitutes , internet po*n ................various ways the women won't even understand .
 
At the same time there r men who , when their wives are crippled etc after accidents look after them devotedly , totally forgetting their biological needs. But it has to be noted that these r exceptions to the rule . And in most cases , this emotional bond comes coz the wife has won them over with love during their best days together , and that love helps them to rise above their biological needs later .
 
In real life if a woman tries to emulate Pratigya only two things will happen .......her marraige will land in divorce court and the court will give her a divorce promptly sympathising with the mAN not her , or , she will suffer a fate where she watches her man go out of control as he strays and quenches his thirst outside .In both cases , as starlight rightly said , the woman will suffer .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
And yes , about Kesar ..............no one here is saying she should give herself to Shakti and put her life and kids life in danger . In fact I say that what the hell is she doing there , in that house . She shud go to her maayka. Al women do for their first pregnancy as it advances .She shud return only when baby is born .
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Why was she staring dumbly at Shakti with longing in her eyes when he told her to go up on the terrace ? Kesar is not just timid , Kesar is also pretty dumb . She actually has a crush on her brute husband , and wants to be in his good books. What she shud realise is her marraige is practically finished , her future lies with her child alone. Using the child she shud get some land on her name by influencing SS and opt to stay seperate from Shakti in the same house .Let us see if Pratigya can help her achieve something like this .[ That is if she has fursat from her maayka.]
Why feel neglected , jealous or unwanted with Shakti telling her to go ? She shud feel relieved that forced sex is not gonna be a part of  her life on a daily basis and run away with visible relief . Let him get syphilis or die , she shud focus on her baby , not him . He wants to kill her and the baby , why does she even want his loyalty ?
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Pratigyas case and Kesars case r vastly different , dont compare them at all .
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Posted: 13 years ago
shakti and krishna are very different.
 
shakti beats his wife, visits brothels, drinks like a fiend and still demands sex from his wife daily. inspite of the abuse.
 
krishna has not even had his SR (which honestly if he was Shakti he would have had at 100 times by now or else pratigya would be dead)  and he does not seem to have any vices, is always friendly towards her and her family, is protective to the point that he has been threatened with being disinherited or disowned by his family on several occasions and has agreed to participate in a friendship pact (which is alien in his world) just to develop an emotional bond with his wife so that any physical intimacy that follows is much more special for the both of them.   he is asking for a progression in their relationship beyond the tours to mumfordgunj. he is not asking for daily romps. this is normal in a marriage. if he did not expect a physcial relationship with his wife then there is seriously something wrong with him.  pratigya's desire for a time -infinite platonic relationship is what has driven him to presenting his need so crudely and bluntly. the ultimatum was proposed only after his expression of frustration, rejection and disappointment with the state of affairs was callously tossed aside. his ultimatum was reactive not premeditated.
 
anyways, disagreement on the above is rampant and cyclical and as we are all entitled to our POV however diverse or opposing, I think it is futile for any further discussion on the threshold at which the protagonists find themselves now.  
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[QUOTE=koolsadhu1000]And yes , about Kesar ..............no one here is saying she should give herself to Shakti and put her life and kids life in danger . In fact I say that what the hell is she doing there , in that house . She shud go to her maayka. Al women do for their first pregnancy as it advances .She shud return only when baby is born .
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Why was she staring dumbly at Shakti with longing in her eyes when he told her to go up on the terrace ? Kesar is not just timid , Kesar is also pretty dumb . She actually has a crush on her brute husband , and wants to be in his good books. What she shud realise is her marraige is practically finished , her future lies with her child alone. Using the child she shud get some land on her name by influencing SS and opt to stay seperate from Shakti in the same house .Let us see if Pratigya can help her achieve something like this .[ That is if she has fursat from her maayka.]
Why feel neglected , jealous or unwanted with Shakti telling her to go ? She shud feel relieved that forced sex is not gonna be a part of  her life on a daily basis and run away with visible relief . Let him get syphilis or die , she shud focus on her baby , not him . He wants to kill her and the baby , why does she even want his loyalty ?
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Pratigyas case and Kesars case r vastly different , dont compare them at all .
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She should go to maayka, and stay there. She and her baby, life is in danger, as long shakti, is in their life. On friday episode we all saw how low he sank, he did that so he can scared her into put her baby life in endanger. She is not safe, we don't know what will be shakti , next move.😡