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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shonal8

Rather than the monotonous opposition by Kareena et al Haya can now fight with the society. Maybe they will have to flee. Move from one city to another. Maybe people will burn down Harak Singhs house. Harak Singh and Preeto and Surbhi can stand with Haya and fight with them. Maybe their marriage will be declared illegal. Haya can fight with the law and society. Then kinnars will be bold enough to join them. So many interesting tracks without of course spoiling the romance of Haya. Then they can show their child adapting to the fact they are the child of a kinnar. I don't have a problem with Haya dying like freedom fighters. But rebirth of Saumya as a female will be a defeat for the Shakti serial. I will definitely stop watching if that happens. Will not watch even for Rubi and Viv. For me that will be the death of the Shakti concept. Only union through Saumya dying and being born as a woman. For me personally that would kill the entire Shakti concept. If the production house has creative imagination they can make into a romantic thriller with important social message without turning it into a documentary or petty Shanno Kareena politics or mahan Saas Bahu drama.



Errmmm in the name of concept what exactly we r seeing .. Aaraval puja where Saumya will hv to marry Aarawal devta and then become devta's widow etc etc .. this is the definition of Concept for CVs 😆 .. If we r imagining CVs will show kinner upliftment and all that , then forget it as such things dont bring trps in daily soap world and so CVs wont show it either .. See last week such comical execution of Maharani's death yet it touched 3 trps because People love drama ..

About HaYa running away from society .. all that can b shown for 4-5 months but then what ? Shows r dragged for 4-5 years and so they need concrete tracks for it which comes either with a Generation leap or with Rebirth tracks only .. if they take Generation leap then Viv-Rubi will leave show as they wont play parents to grown up kids which will mean as it is they will kill HaYa and then their kids will take over the show like we see in most of these generation leap shows like Simar or Yeh rishta ... .. But if they show rebirth , at least we can see HaYa till this show continues 😆..

Also Daily soaps r done in limited budget .. so burning down houses and all can b possible in movies but in soaps they work in one restricted set only .. so they hv lots of limitations when it comes to showing such tracks ..


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flora15

Gago millions thanthaforth this breathtaking take fantastically filled with details, take a bow for that👏 👏 👏

Really get teary eyes reading the reasons for making this fabulous take my sweet heart😭
You know i craving for long time to rrea an amazing take and how to say if this take have many reasons.Iwas mesmerized reading every single detdet perfectly interpreted and the snaps pics added more beauty totthe interpretation..I'll not say anything as I share with you everything and agree with.. Me too feel there's rebirth but I prefer that part of society accept HaYa and others part refuse their relation... I want makers send nice msg i won't watch to tatal rejection... I crave for a ggoodsocial track . . Crave to for a medical treatment even Harman is still refusing.. Third gender life should be enlightned and Saumya have right to know her defects... It's high time that CVS clear to viewers the misunderstood about Saumya nature. Medical treatment for third gender isn't contrasting with their nature.. They can show all that and as people mindset is stubborn sure the part who can't accept HaYa relation will kill them and they'll complete their love journey in next birth in a modern open minded city.




This is very much possible and I too want this .. let a part of society accept HaYa which will b their victory and let a part of society which can consist of a strong male villain brainwash few people and kill HaYa with betrayal .. so this way their love will get acceptance in society and they will win too but they will die because of some betrayal which means they can take rebirth not only to complete their love story but also to take revenge against that villain ..

About treatment track , chances r very less Flora because in villages people r orthodox and dont go for hi tech treatments .. its very unusual in India ..so I doubt CVs will bring it .. And treatment too diverts from main concept na which is about a kinner finding acceptance without changing herself .. plus Harman is against it as he is happy with the way Saumya is .. so they wont show treatment by compromising Harman's character is what I feel ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Estadra

thank you Jyoti for an amazing post.

I enjoyed every Haya scene.

Maharani is gone. Mohini will surely come back. (the proof is that Mohini will be dancing at Mahasangam in Tu Aashiqui)

The problem is that it's not a new villain. The villain is Shannon. That's ridiculous, like Kareen and Raveen, which are constantly being repeated. Shannon is ridiculous like a villain

Rebirth may be, but I will be honest. If Souma is a girl, I will not watch the show because Shakti is a kinnar concept, yes I know you all say she can talk about their past life, etc. I do not care. Because if Souma is a girl, it will be a typical Saas bahu drama, and honestly, RS do not know write these stories. They are boring. and Overall, I'm tired of Saas bahu crap, oh sorry, drama.

Rebirth due to sex? why? Harman and Souma can live without sex. yes yes yes, I hear you say Harman is a healthy man. and needs to live intimately. Harman does not mind that. This story is not about healing, I agree that Souma should know her disability. Although Souma is virtually healthy.

Let's see if Souma will make Aravan pooja, and we'll know if she's going to be a girl in her next life. I hope Aravan Pooja will not do it and Harman will help her open her eyes.

Harman said it beautifully, kinnar did not respect myself as being. It is no sin to be kinnar. Harman is proud of his wife.

I will understand that a lot of people will not agree with me, but this is my view of the thing. By the way, I apologize for its open opinion. I know that sex is not publicly spoken.



Suzy tell me in the name of concept what exactly we got for last 2 yrs ?? Saas bahu only na 😆 .. at times u will get such stupid plots like Araval puja or Guruma puja to justify the so called concept .. thats it

Personally I want rebirth not for sex but for a fresh narrative and fresh storyline with HaYa in a more modern and urban get up as I m tired of same scenes , same dialogues and same narratives .. On TV anyways sex is not shown and in name of consummation we get just lights off , so no sex is not my priority .. did I mention sex anywhere in my post ? My only wish is to see HaYa in a fresh story now instead of going for a generation leap with grown up kids and in that case HaYa will b killed anyways as Viv-Rubi wont do the show then .. And Shakti will for sure go for a leap in future like other RS shows .. so it will b either generation leap with leads getting killed as they will leave show or reincarnation leap with leads getting a new look as they wont leave the show if they r asked to play young characters ..


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I was reading these interviews of Vivian where it seems he was speaking in support of the writers

Do read this interview .. He clearly said that these r daily soaps , so it will not always run on main concept only .. At times it will divert from main concept so that things can b spiced up bec people will b bored of same thing , so its important to make them taste all kinds of flavour in a long running daily soap ..

In short Vivian sort of trolled us who r shouting to focus on just leads 😆😆 .. Here is the Article .. he is fine even if concept is diverted

https://www.indiaforums.com/article/quotit-is-true-that-the-writers-cannot-be-biased-towards-harman-soumyaquot-vivian-dsena_124855

And then there is another interview of Vivian where he said longer these shows run , more they create an impact which again indicates he is in no mood of quitting this show in long run like many were hoping 😆




In short he seems to b super happy with the show 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The CVs can do whatever they wish.. it is their prerogative. I will wait to see what happens. And if the rebirth of Saumya as a woman happens I will stop watching. As simple as that. I am not trying to influence anyone. Just expressing my POV. And if Shakti makersdo go down this artistic route I hope no one in Indian Tv touch the concept of intersex and transgender people ever again. The makers are not ready. The audience do not seem ready either.
I guess people didn't know apriori that the Maharani defeat scene will be presented in this way hence they watched. Mohini defeat was a bit better in my opinion. I think people were desperate for Mohini Maharani track to end which raised TRPs. I did not watch most of Mohini scenes. Skipped some Maharani scenes. I have stopped watching Kareena scenes So to stop watching Shakti is not difficult for me if I find the track distasteful.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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He knows that's she's a transgender?...does the lead herself know that?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shonal8

The CVs can do whatever they wish.. it is their prerogative. I will wait to see what happens. And if the rebirth of Saumya as a woman happens I will stop watching. As simple as that. I am not trying to influence anyone. Just expressing my POV. And if Shakti makersdo go down this artistic route I hope no one in Indian Tv touch the concept of intersex and transgender people ever again. The makers are not ready. The audience do not seem ready either.

I guess people didn't know apriori that the Maharani defeat scene will be presented in this way hence they watched. Mohini defeat was a bit better in my opinion. I think people were desperate for Mohini Maharani track to end which raised TRPs. I did not watch most of Mohini scenes. Skipped some Maharani scenes. I have stopped watching Kareena scenes So to stop watching Shakti is not difficult for me if I find the track distasteful.



We can agree to disagree on this because every viewer will hv different perspective on this matter .. depends on what is our personal taste ..

For me CVs never really did justice to this kinner concept either ..and eventually when they will go for generation leap like every other show does , actors will quit and characters will b killed .. so in any case justice to the concept wont b done as main motive of CVs is to run the show for years and years .. Had it been a limited episode show , we could expect the actual kinner upliftment , but unfortunately thats not the case here .. So thats the only reason I prefer a rebirth over a stupid generation leap in future where as it is HaYa will b killed if actors leave show which they will ..

Over 2 yrs trp viewers r sticking to the show irrespective of all the crap that has been dished out in previous tracks .. so u really think viewers will not hv an idea how the climax of Maharani/Mohini tracks gonna b and so suddenly gave trps ? Viewers know very well how every track climax r done in the show yet the trps come in because of factors that we might never know .. Worst of Mohini episodes fetched over 2.5 trps and we will never know the reason behind it 😆


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: amrapali_dubey

He knows that's she's a transgender?...does the lead herself know that?



I think u can watch some of the initial episodes of this show when Saumya finds out she is a kinner and even tried to kill herself .. after that she told the truth to her husband Harman too ... Harman got really angry that time and decided to leave her but then slowly they became good friends and after she was kidnapped by kinner grps , he saved her life and became her saviour and then eventually fell in love with her irrespective of her identity .. so yes both HaYa know about Saumya's identity
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06



I think u can watch some of the initial episodes of this show when Saumya finds out she is a kinner and even tried to kill herself .. after that she told the truth to her husband Harman too ... Harman got really angry that time and decided to leave her but then slowly they became good friends and after she was kidnapped by kinner grps , he saved her life and became her saviour and then eventually fell in love with her irrespective of her identity .. so yes both HaYa know about Saumya's identity


How did she discover her gender so late?..I mean she knows her body doesn't she n what's her sexual orientation n gender preference
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Posted: 7 years ago
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No disagreement. Just expressing my view without trying to impose it on anyone. Known as freedom of speech.

In chotibahu 1 the house was shown to be on fire. Anything is possible these days with creative imagination and not increasing budget too much.

I don't mind rebirth as kinnars for either Saumya or Harman and this time Preeto and harak as parents.

I am actually quite interested in the kinnars rituals as it is exposing me to a different culture. Don't want Saumya to do this puja though but would like to see what happens if not executed in the end of maharani way.

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