Here someone is sympathizing but will u support

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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's reality noone this world support damaged person if they will be able to support such person then the world would be peaceful place
But here everyone want perfect
Even the father who has given birth is not wanting to face reality mother is becoming daring but not everyone r able to become
Even the sister will become evil in one day from loving and caring sister
This is the reality of everyone which is very rightly
Here everyone is even not able to fully accept this fact and we r talking for treatment if treatment is not possible then u will also not accept
It's really tough to live in this world where everyone is proud of their beauty their everything if and if u get everything then that person never understand the mystery of other person
A very right fact from society in my neighbor I seen
The girl was going to married at that very time it's revealed that she has vitiligo (saved dag in general) and they refused to marry first I thought that it's very crucial case as I misunderstood it with leprosy but then I got to know from my brother who is doctor who said that these two r very different thing and people mix these type of thing due to lack of knowledge even I have but the thing matter is everyone want best they don't understand this
And then it was mere coincidence that we got to know that guy sister has also same problem
The person who has suffered from this is not able to support although he know the mysery of her sister as I have realized in realionship brother sister bond is strongest
Even the person suffering from it is very difficult even then to face world then how will you accept other to do support you
Even take the example of dowry what.a girl faces whole life due to dowry a parent know about it but when it come to their other son they r the only one to demand dowry by saying that they have given for their daughter so they will take for their son even rich parents give dowry with happiness who r well educated why don't they think that this sis wrong
Even now also 70 percent people turn sad when they know about girl child they love all their child buy somewhere they want boy as first child and second child can be anything
So it is truth that noone accept these truth how much u support others but when it come upon u u will never accept
When these small thing is facing discrimination in this small world then obviously it's a very big truth of society
Atleast I am proud of winners that they understand each other and r faithful for themselves without any blood person
ItIS A TRUTH ACCEPT IT OR NOT 95%OF PEOPLE WILL SHOW SUPPORT BUT WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS NEVER SO IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM TO GET THEIR RIGHT EVEN ON THE NAME OF THIRD GENDERS ON READING LIVING IN NORMAL SURROUNDING doING THIER JOB UT WOYLD BE NORMAL THING AND THIS TYPE OF PETITION SHOULD BE HEARD BY GOVT AND SHOULD WE CAN MAKE AWARE OF GHOSE HUMAN RIGHTS TO THEM TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE
A NORMAL GIRL AND BOY WILL NEVER ACCEPT IT SO THEY CAN LIVE IN A WORLD IN TJIS WORLD ONKY AS THIRD GENDER NO NEED OF MARRIAGE IF THEN AMONG THEMSELVES THEY CAN IDENTIFY THEIR GENDER AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE
WHY FOUR GENDERS CANG BE IN SOCIETY IF WE HAVE TWO
THERE IS NO THING WHICH CANT CHANGE
IT IS US WHO HAVE DIVIDED TWO GENDERS
IT IS SAID THAT WHY WE CANT BREAK RULES AND MAKE NEW RULES FOR OUR BENEFIT IF GOD HAS MADE SUCH PERSON WHY WE ALL NOT ACCEPT IT FULLY AND GIVE RECOGNITION IN WHOLE SOCITY
ITS PURELY MY VIEW AS IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN TO SHOW A BOY AND TRANSGENDER OR DSD STORY
WHY THERE IS NEED TO CHANGE GENDER IF THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN BOTH GENDERS QUALITY
BECAUSE IN TELESOAP THEY CAN MAKE LOVE STORY BUT IN REAL WORLD ITS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE THING I AM NOT TALKING OF 0.1%OF POPULATION
WHAT SOUMYA HAS GOT FROM HER WHOLE LUFE IF THERE WAS SUCH THING THEN THERE WAS NO NEED OF SUCH THING AND SHE WOULD HAVE LEAD NORMAL LIFE WITH HER OWN UNIQUE IDENTITY
HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND what I am trying to convey
Don't misunderstand as I am talking about reality

ONE MORE QUESTION HERE EVERYONE IS ASKING THAT IF WE CAN ACCEPT VAMPIRE SNAKE LOVESTORY THEN WHY NOT THIS
BECAUSE THIS IS TRUTH WE KNOW IN REAL WORLD SNAKE OR VAMPIRE DOESN'T EXISR BUT TRANSGENDER IS A REALITY OF WORLD AND THEY EXIST
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sorry but I can't agree with u...
There are two genders in world... but the third and fourth gender as u say are also created by god to belong to this world... they are also humans like us and they also have feelings... why can't they lead a normal life like us...
Why won't it happen in reality... it might happen some where we just doesn't know... the show is not trying to show a story which is fake... but it is trying to show the reality with concwpt this is also possible open ur eyes and pull ur head out from sand
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: harianjana

Sorry but I can't agree with u...
There are two genders in world... but the third and fourth gender as u say are also created by god to belong to this world... they are also humans like us and they also have feelings... why can't they lead a normal life like us...
Why won't it happen in reality... it might happen some where we just doesn't know... the show is not trying to show a story which is fake... but it is trying to show the reality with concwpt this is also possible open ur eyes and pull ur head out from sand

Sorry yar you not understood what I am trying to say
I am only saying there would be some category which will be known to everyone
Like how in India everyone were discriminating on the basis of caste but once some leaders put their opinion to give them equal right they were given reservation and that's how they got position forcefully but then society accepted it gradually
Like firstly 99% people discriminated but now only 1%discriminated
I am talking about real world not reel world
If govt will give them liability in every field then they will get their right with their own right and then society will accept them gradually only
You can't force ur division but everyone will have to accept with their will then only these thing will get over
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I understood that what you are trying to say . In our country Supreme Court gave this landmark judgement few years back that 3rd gender (LGBT) also have the right to live a life with dignity and so they will be included in every private and public jobs under the OBC category . Well the reason why time and again the apex court of our country has given reservations to such classes of LGBT or SC/ST is bcz if a law is passed saying that 3rd gender and Schedule Caste/Tribe people needs to be given job , then there are 100% chances of people discriminating them in job like they might be selected for the job but intentionally the higher authorities who are interviewing them will not pass them in interview . I have seen a live example where one of my father's friend who is from SC category dint got promotion in his job in the last 5 years while my dad and all his other colleagues are now at a much higher position than my dad's friend and my dad and his colleague were promoted for the sole reason that they were not from the Schedule Caste .. If the apex court dint give any reservation to such people then no one will appoint them in jobs and they can come up with 1000 good reasons of not keeping such people's on job BUT bcz of reservation atleast they have jobs , if not promotions... We at times are anguished that why we have reservation system in our country but then we fail to see the harsh reality these people face and inspite of reservation such people are still discriminated . At first when in college admission process we used to see the other so called backward community people getting admissions then I used to feel angry but when I saw my dad's friend that how he has not been given promotion in the last 5 years and all his firends and employess have been promoted then I realised that why reservation for such people is necessary and even in workplace people still discriminate them and it feels really bad to see such mentality of people and now I really don't get angry on the reservation issue . Anyways I'll not go into all that law aspect bcz no one is gonna agree with me since people feel there should be no reservation but we don't realise the basic fact . Ofcourse politicians want reservations for vote bank politics but besides that truth is always bitter . BUT I solely believe that untill and unless PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDSET AND MENTALITY things like reservation and discrimination will continue . If people of our country were more broad minded and accepted other people's of what they are without any discrimination then B.R.Ambedkar wouldn't have ever felt the need of including reservation in the Indian Constituion and nor Supreme Court would have ever felt the need to include LGBT under reservation category but since Indian people will need another birth to change their attitude and mindset so that is why Supreme Court has to pass such laws for the betterment of these people . And to be honest in our country where people are still fighting on issues like dalit-brahmin , hindu-muslim , beef ban etc then TG issue is something so scandalising for them to even think about . BUT out of all the population not everyone is regressive in thoughts . People are now changing their attitude , ofcourse not everyone but atleast those handfull of people are there with broad mind to embrace changes . And I believe something is better than nothing . Atleast not 1% but handful of them are broad minded people who see people as they are and doesn't discriminate them . I have one of my friend as gay and none of us feels awkward in being his friend . Yeah at times when our friends group go out for lunch or movie then people see him with weird expressions but he doesn't care about it bcz he has friends like us . And I solely believe that if our generation is ready to accept every person of what he/she is then I'm sure that within anothr century even India will have equality in true sense for all genders be it male , female , lgbt ... So yes we still have a very very long way to go in changing our attitude , approach , mindset and mentallity towards all such issues of religion , caste , lgbt , diseases etc etc . And hum hongey kaamyab ek din .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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And regarding to your question of support well I already told you above that I have a gay friend so its clear if I support such people or not ... BUT YES I support all such people who think for humanity irrespective of their religion , gender , color , race , cast , creed etc .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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O understood what you are trying to say... but despite of govt giving them rights...they aren't truthfully accepted in society yet...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RagingBlaze

I understood that what you are trying to say . In our country Supreme Court gave this landmark judgement few years back that 3rd gender (LGBT) also have the right to live a life with dignity and so they will be included in every private and public jobs under the OBC category . Well the reason why time and again the apex court of our country has given reservations to such classes of LGBT or SC/ST is bcz if a law is passed saying that 3rd gender and Schedule Caste/Tribe people needs to be given job , then there are 100% chances of people discriminating them in job like they might be selected for the job but intentionally the higher authorities who are interviewing them will not pass them in interview . I have seen a live example where one of my father's friend who is from SC category dint got promotion in his job in the last 5 years while my dad and all his other colleagues are now at a much higher position than my dad's friend and my dad and his colleague were promoted for the sole reason that they were not from the Schedule Caste .. If the apex court dint give any reservation to such people then no one will appoint them in jobs and they can come up with 1000 good reasons of not keeping such people's on job BUT bcz of reservation atleast they have jobs , if not promotions... We at times are anguished that why we have reservation system in our country but then we fail to see the harsh reality these people face and inspite of reservation such people are still discriminated . At first when in college admission process we used to see the other so called backward community people getting admissions then I used to feel angry but when I saw my dad's friend that how he has not been given promotion in the last 5 years and all his firends and employess have been promoted then I realised that why reservation for such people is necessary and even in workplace people still discriminate them and it feels really bad to see such mentality of people and now I really don't get angry on the reservation issue . Anyways I'll not go into all that law aspect bcz no one is gonna agree with me since people feel there should be no reservation but we don't realise the basic fact . Ofcourse politicians want reservations for vote bank politics but besides that truth is always bitter . BUT I solely believe that untill and unless PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDSET AND MENTALITY things like reservation and discrimination will continue . If people of our country were more broad minded and accepted other people's of what they are without any discrimination then B.R.Ambedkar wouldn't have ever felt the need of including reservation in the Indian Constituion and nor Supreme Court would have ever felt the need to include LGBT under reservation category but since Indian people will need another birth to change their attitude and mindset so that is why Supreme Court has to pass such laws for the betterment of these people . And to be honest in our country where people are still fighting on issues like dalit-brahmin , hindu-muslim , beef ban etc then TG issue is something so scandalising for them to even think about . BUT out of all the population not everyone is regressive in thoughts . People are now changing their attitude , ofcourse not everyone but atleast those handfull of people are there with broad mind to embrace changes . And I believe something is better than nothing . Atleast not 1% but handful of them are broad minded people who see people as they are and doesn't discriminate them . I have one of my friend as gay and none of us feels awkward in being his friend . Yeah at times when our friends group go out for lunch or movie then people see him with weird expressions but he doesn't care about it bcz he has friends like us . And I solely believe that if our generation is ready to accept every person of what he/she is then I'm sure that within anothr century even India will have equality in true sense for all genders be it male , female , lgbt ... So yes we still have a very very long way to go in changing our attitude , approach , mindset and mentallity towards all such issues of religion , caste , lgbt , diseases etc etc . And hum hongey kaamyab ek din .

Ya you totally wrote what I am trying to say
Because it is reality that noone accept such reality and we have to deal with it
I am not talking for this show or soumya I am talking for real world
Today through this telesoap some part of population will understand but quite a very few
So to give them place they have to give separate recognition and a identity with some reservation which would give them strength for their rights to fight the entire world just how today lower cast people r facing and fighting and one day not totally but will somewhat get uprooted from this society just like how gender discrimination and caste discrimination has minimised
Until that no parent has that much dare to protect their children or if they will then they will try to make it raaz which will detoriate psychological health of the person
And they will not be able to live here properly nor have a simple life
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: gaushiv13

Ya you totally wrote what I am trying to say
Because it is reality that noone accept such reality and we have to deal with it
I am not talking for this show or soumya I am talking for real world
Today through this telesoap some part of population will understand but quite a very few
So to give them place they have to give separate recognition and a identity with some reservation which would give them strength for their rights to fight the entire world just how today lower cast people r facing and fighting and one day not totally but will somewhat get uprooted from this society just like how gender discrimination and caste discrimination has minimised
Until that no parent has that much dare to protect their children or if they will then they will try to make it raaz which will detoriate psychological health of the person
And they will not be able to live here properly nor have a simple life


Yes dear even I hope that this show somewhere tries to make people look at every other human being equally . Bcz reservations can't long till 1000 years . Its only that people need to change their attitude and then there would be no need for such reservation system .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree...untill n unlees people change their mindset in a progressive manner,nothing can really change.Poeple can sypathise with them but accepting them is difficult.Everyone thinks that what society will think? What will people say n blah blah.

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