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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: chocolover89

@ underline There is a difference in standing by someone and being there with them than actually speaking up for them. Ragini did not strongly speak up for Sadhna with Kaushi, but you can't stay she never stood beside Sadhna, because again and again she told Kaushi her fears were baseless and that she was wrong about Sadhna. Granted, she wasn't firm enough because Kauhsi neevr understood, but she was there for Sadhna when Kaushi would insult her.
See you and I are arguing different things. You're pretty much saying Ragini supported Sadhna in her good times. I'm saying that beofre this rift track, it was never all about Ranvir and romance for Ragini. She did care about others and their opinions- hence to show her as so self-absorbed now is a 360 degree turn in character.
Ragini's character HAS changed. Before, she misunderstood Sadhna twice and got over it within an instance, and btw those are the only times when Ragini doubted Sadhna besides this wonderful track, but there are many more of when she cared about Sadhna and her parents and everyone else in Bidaai and wasn't oblivious to them.
Another one: she was the to get naveen's position back in the office, if she really was that shallow, then she would let him just stay at home after what he did to her brother.
@ red When Ragini woke up in the hospital after her miscarriage, the first person she asked for was Sadhna. But, Vasu and Kaushi did not let her meet Sadhna and brainwashed her completely when she was at her emotially weakest possible point: losing husband and child both within maybe 24 hours? Ragini never really got to know why Sadhna did what she did becasue she was neevr in the right state of mind to understand. Now that she is, the hatred that Vasu and Kaushi so strongly instilled in Ragini for Sadhna overpowers her rational thinking. Anyways, all of that is a matter of perception. I still don't think this really justifies Ragini's dialogues.



Ragini is a nice character but at the same time she can be easily manipulated under adverse circumstances. Ragini has always been pampered throughout her life but she also had an inferiority complex due to her complexion. She has never been away from a loved one or has no such experience of losing one, so she was not able to cope up with the loss of her unborn baby. For the same reason she had a really tough time due to Ranveer being in jail.

There is also something very noticeable about Ragini's character...she never raises her voice or protests against the wrong-doings of anyone who pampers her a lot.

There is no doubt that her life revolves around mostly Ranveer after her marriage. Another very interesting observation, Ragini was in love with Saket ....she always dreamed of having a romantic life partner. That's how her character has been portrayed from the beginning.
Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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great discussion......omshanti1111......u have simply read my mind....i wish we could click the like button more than one time.....great arguements made by you.....there is nothing anyone can add after that......simply beautiful.....lajawab ker diya
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anu--



Ragini is a nice character but at the same time she can be easily manipulated under adverse circumstances. Ragini has always been pampered throughout her life but she also had an inferiority complex due to her complexion. She has never been away from a loved one or has no such experience of losing one, so she was not able to cope up with the loss of her unborn baby. For the same reason she had a really tough time due to Ranveer being in jail.

There is also something very noticeable about Ragini's character...she never raises her voice or protests against the wrong-doings of anyone who pampers her a lot.

There is no doubt that her life revolves around mostly Ranveer after her marriage. Another very interesting observation, Ragini was in love with Saket ....she always dreamed of having a romantic life partner. That's how her character has been portrayed from the beginning.

Yes, Ragini has been raised in such a protective environment that she doesn't know how to deal with problems as big as teh ones she faced now. Sadly, I actually think her mother has played a big role in increasing Ragini's inferiority complex by consistently differentiating between the sisters because of the difference in looks.
As for not protesting against someone who pampers her: well she has repeatedly told her mother that she is wrong about Sadhna. Obviously, she has protested against what she believed or was led to believe were the wrong-doings of Sadhna and Sadhna has a very big hand in pampering Ragini. Also, she protested against ranvir not by raising her voice but by leaving the house when he treated her terribly in the mystery track.
Yes, her life revolves around Ranvir, but other people including Sadhna, Alekh, and her maayka were important to her too. Right now with this rift track, the others seem to have disappeared, and only Ranvir remains.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

Yes, Ragini has been raised in such a protective environment that she doesn't know how to deal with problems as big as teh ones she faced now. Sadly, I actually think her mother has played a big role in increasing Ragini's inferiority complex by consistently differentiating between the sisters because of the difference in looks.

As for not protesting against someone who pampers her: well she has repeatedly told her mother that she is wrong about Sadhna. Obviously, she has protested against what she believed or was led to believe were the wrong-doings of Sadhna and Sadhna has a very big hand in pampering Ragini. Also, she protested against ranvir not by raising her voice but by leaving the house when he treated her terribly in the mystery track.
Yes, her life revolves around Ranvir, but other people including Sadhna, Alekh, and her maayka were important to her too. Right now with this rift track, the others seem to have disappeared, and only Ranvir remains.



@bold : I mentioned that Ragini never protests against anyone who pampers her a lot. In this case, Ranveer was mistreating her, so her reaction was ok.

About Kaushi, Ragini never really protested against her mother...she tried to mostly make-up for Kaushi's misbehavior towards Sadhana by giving her love. She did try to make her mother understand but that was not enough. Take DB case for instance, Ragini never really said anything to her when she was badmouthing Sadi.

EDIT: We have gone off-topic. lol. Lets go back to the main discussion.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anu--



@bold : I mentioned that Ragini never protests against anyone who pampers her a lot. In this case, Ranveer was mistreating her, so her reaction was ok.

About Kaushi, Ragini never really protested against her mother...she tried to mostly make-up for Kaushi's misbehavior towards Sadhana by giving her love. She did try to make her mother understand but that was not enough. Take DB case for instance, Ragini never really said anything to her when she was badmouthing Sadi.

EDIT: We have gone off-topic. lol. Lets go back to the main discussion.

I'm not saying that Ragini's protests against her mother were effective because they most certainly weren't, but then thing is she used to try. DB, she din't because Ragini believes it's disrespectful to talk back to elders 😕.
Lols, the main topic:
Everybody who knows has an equal responsibility to tell Ragini. Ragini hasn't followed up on her mother's health because she's been led to believe its nothing to worry about, but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't inquire as to it.
Simply put:
Ragini + all parties that know are all wrong in some way, with Vasu taking the cake. No one person in completely free of blame.
Btw, I am glad we were able to have a helathy discussion without resorting to bashing and arguing.
Edited by chocolover89 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I'm not saying that Ragini's protests against her mother were effective because they most certainly weren't, but then thing is she used to try. DB, she din't because Ragini believes it's disrespectful to talk back to elders 😕.

Lols, the main topic:
Everybody who knows has an equal responsibility to tell Ragini. Ragini hasn't followed up on her mother's health because she's been led to believe its nothing to worry about, but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't inquire as to it.
Simply put:
Ragini + all parties that know are all wrong in some way, with Vasu taking the cake. No one person in completely free of blame.
Btw, I am glad we were able to have a helathy discussion without resorting to bashing and arguing.



@bold : Well said. That's the most important part, its very much possible to have a good discussion or debate without using sarcastic or demeaning comments. Everyone has a different POV...if we can't agree then the best option is "lets agree to disagree" and end the argument. 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
#87

I really do not agree with members making such posts as "Not Again" or "Discussed many times before" etc etc.

As the story is progressing there are new things coming up, POV's can be changed, new members can join in and have an opportunity to give their opinion.

Just stating that a topic has been discussed before and should not be discussed again, is like saying that once a medicine has been discovered, it should be left and forgotten and no improvements should be made to it, or if something has been invented it should not be reinvented with a better model.

Being a Sadhna fan myself and though this topic has been started off by bashing Sadhna, i still do not mind discussions on it if they are done in a nice healthy way and everyone is given a fair chance to express their POV's.




Edited by --Pinky-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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mujhe ek baat samajh nahi aati kyon sadhna itni tension le rahi hai atleast woh ranveer ko to bata sakti hai mamaji ko nahi ragini ko nahi malika ko aur vinu ko kya hua usko itna sense bhi nahi hai ki woh jis company main kaam karta hai usse paisa le le yeh CT ka fault nahi to aur kya hai har character ko woh track ke hissab se badal dete hai aur kuchh log kahete hain ki ragini charactera ka fault hai ismain character ka fault kahan se aa gaya ct kisi ko kurbani dete hue dikhate hain kisi ko selfish dikhate hain ye to director aur CT ka fault hai charactera kya kar sakta hai ragini koi is tarah ka charctera nahi hai its only CT fault no ragini fault yaar ghar ka beta vinu uski salary 50,000/- hai woh five lakh ka arrangement nahi kar sakta yeh koi logic hai aur aap kisi dance competition main yeh sochkar jaa rahe ho ki main wahan jaroor winner hongi aap yeh kaise kah sakte ho ismain koi logic nahi hai but kuchh logon ko character ko bash karne ka bahana chaiye aur unko yeh kaha jaata hai ki great post i think unki post main mujhe kuchh bhi great nahi lagta hai its fictional show per yeh sab ek character ke saath sympathy ke liye dikhaya jaa raha hai aur kuchh nahi
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Posted: 15 years ago
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If my mother was sick....i would not take her word thats she is fine.....because kaushi sure doesnt look fine.....i would have called up other family members to find out the truth.....mothers always say that they are fine.....but god has given us eyes and a brain.....i would have made more trips to check up on her condition.....especially when i have the luxuries of a car and driver.....no excuses......i agree that the character of ragini has changed and that she was more caring in the past.......nevertheless truth cannot be denied.... the fact remains that the character of sadhna has remained constant.....she was selfless in the past and she is selfless now....more power to her......i m sorry if it has been said before.....i just wanted to add my pov.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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sorry to say u ragini kabhi bhi salfish character nahi thi jitna ki use dikhaya jaa raha hai kabhi nahi sister ka chhodo usne kabhi apne maa bauji ki parwah nahi ki ho aisa kabhi nahi hua vinu ke case main ragini jitni pareshaan thi usne ranveer se shaadi karne se mana kar diya tha but us vaqt sadhna ne kya kiya i think vasu ki agaya kari bahu thi vasu ne use kuchh karne hi nahi diya tab usne vasu ke against aaawaz nahi uthai ab ragini ke saath bhi wahi hai aur sadhna un logon ke jyada close hai to ragini apni maa ki condition ke baare main kaise jaan sakti hai aur ab sadhna ka character itna strong ho gaya ki woh vasu se muquabala kar rahi hai kya pahele kabhi sadhna ka character aisa tha hamesha maafi mangati thi ya roti thi us vaqt CT ne use aaj ki tarah strong kyon nahi dikhaya main yehi kahna chahti hoon ki har character CT ke according hi chal rahi hai aur har track main ct character ko change kar dete hain its not character's faults its only CT fault

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