Originally posted by: Omshanti1111
@chocolover89
I like my discussion with you, although we are arguing. Because you are a sensible person. But my question if someone brainwashes, why will anyone get brainwahsed, if they vow to be the best of sisters. Does Vasu know Sdahna more than Ragini? and I still do not understand how she can blame Sadhna for the miscarrige? and say those words that Sadhna was jealousof her.
Why did Ragini get brainwashed, could anyone brainwash Ranveer or Sadhna, though these two are the persons who suffered that actual incident directly..Ranveer is the so called victim and Sdahna testified against him. Could anyone brainwash Sadhna against Ragini, Sadhna still holds the same love for Ragini, despite the fact that Ragini is not doing anything good to Sadhna now, other than bestowing continuous hatred .
Ragini as a wife, misunderstood even Ranveer for having an affair with Kiran, how can she, does she not know how her Ranveer is?
Main problem of Ragini;s character is she tries to balance, she keeps her legs on both boats and balance as per her convinience. There comes a time in life, when one needs to take one side, speak out to protect an unprotected person, otherwise it is considered a sin. When Kaushi used to mistreat Sadhna, I agree she said to Kaushi, but did she really take that initiative to drive away that fear from Kaushi's mind. And if anyone could drive away that fear from Kaushi, it was only Ragini.
what is the fate of girls like Ragini? they are mere "katputlis" in the hands of people like Vasu. do you think Vasu loves Ragini? no way...instead of justifying Ragini's wrong deeds, its better to learn that what way she is walking now is not good for anyone, even for herself.
I just want to specify that I do not in any way think Ragini's actual words to Sadhna regarding her miscarriage are acceptable.
Why did Ragini get brainwashed and Sadhna and Ranvir didn't?
Because Ragini has been so protected her entire life by first her family and then Ranvir, that she does not know how to deal with such problems. She has never really had to be away from any loved one ever, so when she was first faced with the aspect of losing her beloved husband, she lost it. Sadhna is an orphan, while Ranvir was in the US for quite a long time, probably 10 years, maybe more, am not quite sure, so both know how to cope with not being near loved ones. Ragini, on the otehr hand, has no clue. She has grown up with an inferiority complex that her mother only increased with her clear cut discrimination; she can deal with people insulting her because she is used to it, but she doesn't know what to do when a loved one goes far away.
Thus, when Ranvir went to jail, she was already emotionally weak, and on top of that she miscarried( why or how is irrelevant because it won't bring back her lost child) her first child. The people who were surrounding her, her mother, brother, MIL, all said it was Sadhna's fault and wouldn't let her meet Sadhna. The shock and metal weakness at having lost the 2 most important people in her life at the same time became too much and she lost all rational thinking ability and belived her own family's words.
Sadhna doesn't hate Ragini because she understands where Ragini is coming from. Ranvir doesn't hate Sadhna because he actually KNEW that Sadhna was uncomfortable since Sadhna actually told him that she doesn't want to lie, while Ragini had no idea that Sadhna was uncomfortable(whose fault that was has been discussed/argued endlessly).
Ragini never thought Ranvir was having an affair with Kiran- it was Sadhna who actually accused him of having an affair with Kiran, thus forcing Ranvir to tell Sadhna what was going on.
Ragini was upset with Ranvir's weird behavior and lies and told Sadhna she felt as if the distances in their relationship were increasing. If Ragini belived him of having an affair with Kiran, then I think she would not have come back with Ranivr simply saying: yes I lied when she first went to her maayka.
I agree that Ragini is the only one who can really fix Kaushi's behavior with Sadhna, and she hasn't really lived upto it properly, but I don't think we can say that she hasn't talked to Kaushi.
Vasu certainly doesn't love Ragini, or Sadhna, or Avni, or even Mallika. The only person/things Vasu truly loves is herself, her status, and ego. She does love her 2 sons though; she just believes what she ahs decided for them is best and disregards incidents proving otherwise. She just doesn't know or understand her sons enough to really do anythign to make them happy.
Btw, it's nice discussing with you too! You have always been very sensible in your arguments and as long as we don't start bashing each other, it's fine.
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