CHOICE OF SONGS:WHAT ARE PARENTS DOING - Page 3

hi, all I wanted to say was that parents have to imbibe good values in their children, it cant be left to society. When a 18 yr old girl sings such a bold song wearing a bold dress in a show which is meant to be a family show its not appropriate. There are thousands of hindi film songs, gazals with beautiful lyrics and music. Why are those not chosen. Because only a really good singer can sing them well. So indirectly choosing such songs only highlights your calibre and that of your mentor.
Anyway as I said before I definately am conservative and old fashioned in these things. I feel very uncomfortable when i see youngsters singing suggestive songs with vulgar, suggestive moves. And I would surely cringe if my kids do such things in front of an audience. That is why I admired Nihira very much. Not only was her singing good but she also came across as a very cultured girl with a good decent upbringing. Definately her parents should get credit for it.
So at the end of the day if parents and their children are willing to do anythingfor name and fame then.... baat hi khatam. Aage kuch kehne ki jaroorat hi nahin.

Originally posted by: simtara

I couldn't resist responding to the bolded part of your post Thakur Sabzi. Here's my view: Ashatai's cabaret numbers, for the most part, were sensual but also elegant, subtle and graceful. The new slew of "cabaret" numbers, better termed "item numbers" loosely relates to the old sense of the term. This generation of "cabaret" songs tend to be crass, jarring, ill-written and overly blunt. That's merely in regards to lyrics and melody. Come to the actual singing and picturization; the voice was often sensual and inviting, but in a subtle and sometimes mocking way. The tone now leans towards open suggestions and can be heard as somewhat lusty. I hope that makes sense. As for picturization... do I really need to describe Helen (Piya Tu Ab to Aaja or Ye Mera Dil Yaar Ka Deewana) vs. well, you'd have to see the vid to believe it as I can't begin to descrive I Wanna Make Love to You 😕 or even Kareena in Ye Mera Dil of the new Don (though that's immensely better than the former).

There is a clear demarcation between aethetically presenting a situation and being vulgar about it. I found the following quote at a site while researching Ashatai and Helen. To an extent, it describes what I'm trying to say. Just couple it with the above and you might get a clearer idea of my views.

Helen's was the art of the 'clean cabaret'and the grace of a darting goldfish. She made the titillation look aesthetic - and that's what made her distinctive.
http://asha-bhosle.tripod.com/helen.htm

Simi, the time is changing - if the song - Rock me baby is bold for today's generation - then the songs that you had mentioned is bold for the past generation.. If Ashaji starts objecting for all these songs, then how will she decide if the singer is capable to sing an item song or not.. We speak that a singer has to be tested for all caliber of songs.. Then if the item songs are not sung by the contestants - how will we decide if she is fit or not..

Regarding the parents supporting the contestants - All I would say is these days kids get the maturity at very young age - They get to know what is right and what is wrong - these days kids have become smarter and know to protect themselves - Parents have given them the liberty and more over these days which TV show or Movie does not have even 1% of the vulgurity.. For that matter even the advertisements.. Even these K serials for that matter show about having countless of husbands and wives and proving the concept of "Your children, My children - play with our children".. When Parents can sit and watch these TV shows along with the kids, then I dont think they will have any problem listening to this song on a reality show.. Whom all will we stop?? We can stop one contestant - But can you stop the whole country which is adopting a new culture??

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

I never watched Rangoli and Chitrahaar with parents because of those old time romantic songs and scenes...Parental guidance are needed in every era, only difference is these days parents compromise a lot, and if parents do not mind then why should SRGMP or mentors will mind...

I hav no such memories though as i grew up mostly in the hostel. But i agree finally it is parents who need to put these values into the kids. I hav heard many parents say how to do that when the music channels on tv are showing thus. how to control that? but there's a simple solution too. U can always delete that channel from your tv. (now hope none pass this info to my home.😆)

But i at times feel, if all this is actually in the control of these mentors! I hav a feeling it is the channel house thats taking the decision.And as to why, well the reason is same as to why such remix video's are being made today.

Originally posted by: Anu.Rad

Regarding the parents supporting the contestants - All I would say is these days kids get the maturity at very young age - They get to know what is right and what is wrong - these days kids have become smarter and know to protect themselves - Parents have given them the liberty and more over these days which TV show or Movie does not have even 1% of the vulgurity.. For that matter even the advertisements.. Even these K serials for that matter show about having countless of husbands and wives and proving the concept of "Your children, My children - play with our children".. When Parents can sit and watch these TV shows along with the kids, then I dont think they will have any problem listening to this song on a reality show.. Whom all will we stop?? We can stop one contestant - But can you stop the whole country which is adopting a new culture??

Good points. Just cos the main protagonists wear heavy saris and jewelry doesn't make the shows family-friendly. The shows air on prime time as well and the ratings are 'sky-high'. Rakhi Sawant item numbers have featured in some K serials. So whom all to stop?

Originally posted by: Anu.Rad

Regarding the parents supporting the contestants - All I would say is these days kids get the maturity at very young age - They get to know what is right and what is wrong - these days kids have become smarter and know to protect themselves - Parents have given them the liberty and more over these days which TV show or Movie does not have even 1% of the vulgurity.. For that matter even the advertisements.. Even these K serials for that matter show about having countless of husbands and wives and proving the concept of "Your children, My children - play with our children".. When Parents can sit and watch these TV shows along with the kids, then I dont think they will have any problem listening to this song on a reality show.. Whom all will we stop?? We can stop one contestant - But can you stop the whole country which is adopting a new culture??

See the whole thing is personal choice.And i also strongly believe that merely watching/listening to these songs dnt make u turn bad.Or change your thinking process completely.But finally its upto indivudual parents choice and i personally feel its always better not to question those actions.

Also u never know. The parents who hav put so much restrictions on their kids may actually turn out bad while the one with open thinking a worthy citizen of the country.😊

Hmmm, true...too many restrictions can lead to a rebellion...sometimes it depends on ones' judgment...

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

You are right Barnalidi, I never had problem in watching Chitrahaar after going to Hostel... wahan to siti bhi bajate then... there was one song from Raja "Ankhiyaan milaoon kabhi Anhkhiyaan churaaoon kaya tune kia jaadoo", we always whistled once Sanjay kapoor comes down from behind to join Madhuri in that song... Hostel ki life ki baat hi alag...😃

U were lucky Jadoo bhai. Us they didn't allow to watch tv😭😆 To tell the truth if i actually started watching tv it was after i entered Univ to do my MSc.And regular watching well thats was after i got married.😆

Originally posted by: sonyaee

Hmmm, true...too many restrictions can lead to a rebellion...sometimes it depends on ones' judgment...

Right but there are ways to put these restrictions without even letting them know that u hav done it.But finally i would say its personal choice. and parents to parents they will differ.So whatever the thought process may be i would respect that as i myself dnt know if those restrictions are really fruitfull or not.

Originally posted by: Barnali

See the whole thing is personal choice.

Exactly. It depends on perception. Recently Alka Yagnik was miffed at losing award to Sunidhi's Beedi in Filmfare but Zee gave Alka awrd for 'Tum ko bhi'. On stage Alka said ' Iss Beedi aur Hukke ke zamaane mein I am glad that my song got noticed'. In an interview she said the songs these days doesn't suit situation and are vulgar. How can she justify 'Choli ke peeche' song then😕?

In every era parents have same concern. Helen's clothes were vulgar and comparatively the same what Mallika Sherawat wears. Back then parents had to worry only about Doordarshan. If they had these kind of talent searches then I am sure parents wouldn't behave differently, at least some won't. Only perception matters.

Originally posted by: Barnali

See the whole thing is personal choice.And i also strongly believe that merely watching/listening to these songs dnt make u turn bad.Or change your thinking process completely.But finally its upto indivudual parents choice and i personally feel its always better not to question those actions.

Also u never know. The parents who hav put so much restrictions on their kids may actually turn out bad while the one with open thinking a worthy citizen of the country.😊

Thats true didi.. My mom used to tell others that its good to give a kid full freedom and that a kid matured enough to understand what is good and what is bad and protecting a kid can be done only to an extent.. If there is over protection, that will also lead the kid to go on a wrong path..