Originally posted by: notagain
Excellent post Bheegi!! It is one of the good shows I have seen in a while. 😃
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Originally posted by: notagain
Excellent post Bheegi!! It is one of the good shows I have seen in a while. 😃
Originally posted by: sujataraje
perfectly explained sangi...👏
there can not be better explanation of these characters and their situation at this point of timeASAD -is man of extremes when he hates he does it to extreme and when it comes to love he does the same...be it his hate for rashid whom he never forgave or love for his mother,brother and now for zoya...now when he has accepted that he loves zoya and his life revolves around her..he has no shame in expressing what he feels...i still remember one line from TT video when karan said-once asad will accept that he loves zoya..he will be vocal about it and tell the world that she belongs to him😳till now he restrained himself falling in love...but his emotions and feelings took over him and the walls around his heart broke down...then some storms came and turned his life upside down...he ultimately came out of it and learnt that now he can not lose what he has and what means to him...now he has has come to point where he can do anything to make zoya happy and go to extremes to fulfil her wishes.no matter if it brings lots of pain for him along with .ZOYA- as you explained is still living in some subconscious fears...she is loving whatever is happening with her ..she is loving how his me khan doing every single thing for his happiness..she knows she is nothing without him..but still something is making her conscious...may be her fears of being alone,losing ones you love or anything else...she is always vocal when it comes to teasing but she becomes mute and baffled when it comes to intimacy and emotional bonding..she doesn't speak..her eyes speak volumes though..she wants things to be like this forever...and fears that what if it changes!!!!!!!AYAAN- is latecomer in class of love but a quick learner...reason might be the good teacher(rajini) or pressure to perform well in class(vikram)whatever it is...no matter he understand its deep meaning or not..he wants things like he wishes...he is impulsive and he does not let anyone to bully him in class...he is learning,he is feeling and he is making his way to love..and thats enough for us and himHUMEIRA/RAJINI--a girl whose life was all about to love ayaan and to be loved by him...first part she always did with all her heart..second she could not see happening...her bas luck...now rajini is a girl who is vocal about her feelings..she is confident as she knows someone loves her(vikram) and thats her biggest strength..she believes that her love story is perfect and she has got world' best husband...as we all know its her alter personality...but at subconscious level...she can not connect to vikarn ..she connects with ayaan..because he is her love ...she hold her back when vikram xoem close but..she does not hold herself back when it comes to ayaan..may be she cant because thats what she wants at subconscious level..every love story is a journey..it has its own share of beautiful sight,bumps,confusing turns and check posts ...the one who crosses all this makes to destination of love...and i am sure these four will reach there no matter who reaches first or last...they gonna reach and wait for their soul mates there.
Originally posted by: CanadianChik
I agree with Sangeeta Di - Zoya was a tom boy - so with guys she could fight and compete and argue very well well and she did so confidently with Mr Khan - but as Asad had said she is also very innocent and she has never had a guy who makes her feel the way romantic Asad does where her heart beats so fast that she is flustered and not sure how to react. Coz she is a confident girl of 21st century brought and raised in NY she can not go all shy like hindi serial drama bahu playing with their dupatas!Also if u note Asad says Zoya a lot more and often as he feels comfortable with her on that intimate level - now he only says Ms Farooqui when mon and sister are there as a respect or when he wants to sort of emotionally / physically distant him self from her as they are not married or engaged yet -Zoya on the other hand still calls him Mr khan - even at the cliff she had screamed "I love you Mr. Khan" not " i love you Asad" as you would do so for someone u are close to on an emotional and intimate level - she feels close to him on an emotional level but is not ready on a physical level therefore when Asad gets too close she gets unsure of herself. i think we will see this until their SR or until she goes away physically and misses him not being there around her or until she finds her ground around this new Asad
Originally posted by: CanadianChik
btw: Di - a little unrelated to todays post but IMO the 5th wish is going to be more like - the reason behind how she got the scars on her hand or to stop her dreams of fire or find out the reason why she gets these dreams.
Isn't that the main reason she wants to find her father - for answers regarding her past /her dream / her scars / where her mother is burried?You have a point CC, but this will ultimately lead her to her father... I also have a feeling that that the 5th wish could be the presence and blessings of her father in her wedding, or meeting him once in her life...This is a wishlist is of a sixteen yr old Zoya - Zoya found out her father was alive and in Bhopal only 2 years ago - she thought her parents were dead before that therefore i doubt if the wish is directly related to do anything with her dad specifically.I was thinking on the same line as she has come to know about her dad only 2 years ago and CVs have specifically mentioned that the wishlist was made by Zoya when she was 16 yrs old... But, you never know, Maybe CVs will come up with an answer as she left that empty to be written in future... Also, the list is a to-do for her would be husband and in the earlier episodes of QH Zoya did mention that she wants to find out who her Abbu is before her marriage, then how come now she is all depending on her husband to search her father?On eid Zoya will first see who Ghafur really is - someone who hates Asad and the reason behind why the 2 family kids can not meet - i.e the reason behind Rashid keeping a distance from Asad and Dilshad. (this way it will be 3rd times she meet Ghaffur in his element - 1st was when he threaten her at Ayaan and Humeria's engagement - 2nd at the madrasa and 3rd will be when he either insults Tannu, Zoya, Asad or Dilshad on eid)The first two encounters were very bad and Gaffur humiliated her so much... I agree this time also something along the line will happen and she'll see his true colors...Also on eid i think Tannu will pass comments to Zoya as to how unfortunate she is that her father is present in the room as she can not recognize him. Asad will see Tannu talking to Zoya and will rush to protect her and will hear the conversation and come to know her father is alive. Thus once again Tannu will get ASYA closer as ASYA will finally talk about it.
With Tanveer making a come back in QH anything is possible but I highly doubt that she'll be having any impact on AsYa at this point... Nice prediction about Asad overhearing Tanveer-Zoya's conversation and AsYa talking about it, hence, Asad coming to know that Zoya's father is still alive... Also, I believe that Gaffur-Zoya relationship will be disclosed by the help of the music box and not by Tanveer or Razia or Badi Bi... The music box has always been showed as a symbolism and both the sister's have the same piece of thing... Also, all the four leads i.e. Asad, Zoya, Humeira and Ayaan, knows about it... with Zoya and Humeira having it with them and Asad seeing it with Zoya so many times and knowing the fact that her abbu gave it to her and Ayaan listening to the music of it while talking to Zoya over the phone... It has to be revealed by any one/two/all of them...
IMO Asad knows that Zoya's biggest desire in life was to meet her dad as she always felt that she would not marry until she got answers to her past - therefore i think he will post pone the nikka in order to help her get answers. This way Asad will indirectly say nikkha abhi qabool nahi hai - for Zoya's sake (so Zoya said no 3 times - 2 times with Akram and once in Mangalpur - now same will apply to Asad - SR, 2nd nikka and then this will be 3rd) the 4th will be when they tie the knot (it was AFTER meeting 3 times in the the 4th meeting she ended up in his bed).
You remember so many details dear... But, I am sorry to disagree here...
Agree that Asad knows Zoya's biggest dream in life is to find her dad but isn't he aware of the fact that she is very much keen on a marriage with him and have already agreed to it twice... Why would he then try to postpone it rather than getting married and then searching for her father? If she said she would not marry until she sorts out her past, she did say recently that she wants to foget everything and get married to him during the second Nikah... And even recently after Tanveer's exit, she did say again that she wants to forget everything and is looking forward to a future with him... So, I don't think that Asad will postpone the marriage this time...
Also about saying Qubool nahi hai, Zoya did it only twice : first one with Akram and second one on behalf of Mariam in Mangalpur and Asad also said it twice... First one on behalf of Zoya during Akram-Zoya second wedding attempt and 2nd Nikah of AsYa... During AsYa's first Nikah, niether of them said Qubool nahi hai, infact Asad wasn't even there to say anything... It were the circumstances which stopped the wedding ... So, I think this time either the nikah will take place (that will be considered as a 3rd time for AsYa) or neither of them say a no, but the circumstances (read Gaffur) will stop the wedding ...
IMO that will happen in the form of a secret nikka in the week of 18th August right before she enters SM (we might even see the Ajmer scene that we never saw - Zoya is in blue 😉) .
Ajmer scene is most likely dumped, as the CVs did plan to expose Tanveer and re-unite AsYa in Ajmer (which was the scene in reference) But decided against it in the last moment... I agree on the Secret Nikah part... This could very well be shown... Also, Asad was always in denial of love and was ready for marriage, So Tanveer was a test of love for Asad, which he passed... Now we are seeing that Zoya loves Asad immensly but probably is not ready for a marriage (that's why she is hesitant when Asad comes close to her)... So Gaffur will be a test of marriage for Zoya (which she'll definitely pass), and for that AsYa needs to be married...
On eid Zoya will first see who Ghafur really is - someone who hates Asad and the reason behind why the 2 family kids can not meet - i.e the reason behind Rashid keeping a distance from Asad and Dilshad. (this way it will be 3rd times she meet Ghaffur in his element - 1st was when he threaten her at Ayaan and Humeria's engagement - 2nd at the madrasa and 3rd will be when he either insults Tannu, Zoya, Asad or Dilshad on eid)
Yes - i agree only after 3 bad encounters will Zoya find out that Ghafoor is her father.
If you note (please correct me if i am wrong) Zoya has almost bumped into her father twice at a holy place while she was searching for him.The first time when Ghafoor heard the music near the big red mosque and second time when she was distributing his picture near the mosque. IMO the 3rd time they bump into each other at a HOLY place near the mosque while Zoya is looking for him she will find out the identity of her father. The first time she almost touched his feet in the form of getting his blessing but he kept looking ahead trying to find his daughter. The second time Tanveer said turn around and you might find our father but when Zoya turned around to find her father he was gone.
(So the 1st time Ghafoor kept looking in the wrong direction - then second time Zoya was looking in the wrong direction - 3rd time will they both once again end up looking at the wrong direction or will they both end up looking in the right direction towards each other?)
Also on eid i think Tannu will pass comments to Zoya as to how unfortunate she is that her father is present in the room as she can not recognize him. Asad will see Tannu talking to Zoya and will rush to protect her and will hear the conversation and come to know her father is alive. Thus once again Tannu will get ASYA closer as ASYA will finally talk about it.
With Tanveer making a come back in QH anything is possible but I highly doubt that she'll be having any impact on AsYa at this point... Nice prediction about Asad overhearing Tanveer-Zoya's conversation and AsYa talking about it, hence, Asad coming to know that Zoya's father is still alive...
I agree Tanu cannot do any harm to ASYA but only help get them closer 😃
Also, I believe that Gaffur-Zoya relationship will be disclosed by the help of the music box and not by Tanveer or Razia or Badi Bi... The music box has always been showed as a symbolism and both the sister's have the same piece of thing... Also, all the four leads i.e. Asad, Zoya, Humeira and Ayaan, knows about it... with Zoya and Humeira having it with them and Asad seeing it with Zoya so many times and knowing the fact that her abbu gave it to her and Ayaan listening to the music of it while talking to Zoya over the phone... It has to be revealed by any one/two/all of them...
i seriously hope this comes true - i think initially they probably wanted mona and robert to figure it out but coz everyone was so scared of Zoyaan the CVs let that track go!
IMO Asad knows that Zoya's biggest desire in life was to meet her dad as she always felt that she would not marry until she got answers to her past - therefore i think he will post pone the nikka in order to help her get answers. This way Asad will indirectly say nikkha abhi qabool nahi hai - for Zoya's sake (so Zoya said no 3 times - 2 times with Akram and once in Mangalpur - now same will apply to Asad - SR, 2nd nikka and then this will be 3rd) the 4th will be when they tie the knot (it was AFTER meeting 3 times in the the 4th meeting she ended up in his bed).
You remember so many details dear... But, I am sorry to disagree here...
Disagree anytime - i have no problems with a healthy debate - as long as there is no bashing of characters - CVs - PH or anyone who works hard to QH team😉
Agree that Asad knows Zoya's biggest dream in life is to find her dad but isn't he aware of the fact that she is very much keen on a marriage with him and have already agreed to it twice... Why would he then try to postpone it rather than getting married and then searching for her father? If she said she would not marry until she sorts out her past, she did say recently that she wants to forget everything and get married to him during the second Nikah... And even recently after Tanveer's exit, she did say again that she wants to forget everything and is looking forward to a future with him... So, I don't think that Asad will postpone the marriage this time...
IMO Asad will give her the option to go find out who her father is and that he will wait for her but she will choose to marry him - IMO the secret Nikka will happen but no walima or ruksati till her father issue is not resolved
Also about saying Qubool nahi hai, Zoya did it only twice : first one with Akram and second one on behalf of Mariam in Mangalpur and Asad also said it twice... First one on behalf of Zoya during Akram-Zoya second wedding attempt and 2nd Nikah of AsYa... During AsYa's first Nikah, niether of them said Qubool nahi hai, infact Asad wasn't even there to say anything... It were the circumstances which stopped the wedding ... So, I think this time either the nikah will take place (that will be considered as a 3rd time for AsYa) or neither of them say a no, but the circumstances (read Gaffur) will stop the wedding ...
Great point - i totally agree and this makes me soo happy as now the theory of 3 stays intact 😃. The 3rd time both ASYA will say Qabool hai🥳
Additionally if the spoilers are true then Nikhat wedding is off . And since when ever something bad happens in SM something good happens in KV (prime example ASYA airport wedding) So i really think ASYA nikka will happen after 10th Aug episode.
Also as per spoilers Zoya will dance to Meri hath mei tera hath ho. Have you guys seen the video of the song? This song starts to play in the movie Fanna during Kajol and Amir very simple Nikka - this leads me to hope that secret nikka of ASYA will happen
Another senerio could be that the situation arises such that ASYA will have to replace Imran and Nikhat as the bride and the groom (not sure how the CVs would manage that)but it would be ideal as it will be on a big scale and both fathers will be there!😕
IMO that will happen in the form of a secret nikka in the week of 18th August right before she enters SM (we might even see the Ajmer scene that we never saw - Zoya is in blue 😉) .
Ajmer scene is most likely dumped, as the CVs did plan to expose Tanveer and re-unite AsYa in Ajmer (which was the scene in reference) But decided against it in the last moment...
i know u and Sangeeta di both think that it was dropped - but what if Zoya ask Asad to take her to Ajmer and have a secret Nikka there? That is where they found each other - Think about it - Oishi never confirmed if the scene was dropped and why. we all got spoilers that ASYA will be blessed by actual priest in Ajmer - i think i even read it in Guls interview that Ajmer will be special - ASYA will get close and then separation will come i.e Zoya will go to SM - i think they diverted a bit in order to extend the Tanveer track but the original plan stays in tact that Gul wanted ASYA nikka in Ajmer- the Ajmer set built in Mud island had to have a purpose of more than 8 mins of air time and the media was banned. We did not see anything so special from that set that required media ban. Also in F32 BTS of Ajmer shoot when the lady asked the director what scene they will filming (where Zoya is wearing blue) he gave her a look and ignored the question. In Ajmer they were short on time and if the track was changed right before they left why bother to film it - also note that is the only clothing of Zoya where she is wearing new clothes - in all the other Ajmer shots she is wearing old clothes - i remember making a sarcastic comment like did she request her stuff back from KV while leaving a message for Tannu dear or something?
What can be a bigger surprise for the viewers than ASYA going back to Ajmer for a secret nikka ?😕 They shot the outside part in Ajmer and the mosque part where the nikka happens - that set was built in Mud island - it might seem far fetched - unrealistic but i am a hopeless romantic and dreamer😳.
I agree on the Secret Nikah part... This could very well be shown... Also, Asad was always in denial of love and was ready for marriage, So Tanveer was a test of love for Asad, which he passed... Now we are seeing that Zoya loves Asad immensly but probably is not ready for a marriage (that's why she is hesitant when Asad comes close to her)... So Gaffur will be a test of marriage for Zoya (which she'll definitely pass), and for that AsYa needs to be married...
i agree to everything above!