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Posted: 13 years ago
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Again iam presenting a thread for telly talk discussion with reference to IPK and its actors not about an actors decisions about the show.Try to introspect.

I know some people only watch IPK on TV but still there exists a populace who really take TV more seriously than films

Always felt that India Forums website is the biggest testimony why TV rules over Cinema. Although its an overall entertainment website, majority of news that originate here are about television.The maximum number of Fans here discuss TV shows than movies.. In that context I want to focus why TV is really special these days than films.

ANTICIPATION OF FANS

Some people fear that when IPK ends in future will the career of BS in TV finish?. So better let him do Films.That is somehow a miscalculated thought.

Well I feel TV is much safer in that sense. And films are just an temporary extension.

While Some fans expect that like other SP heroes he should be associated with this show for the period as long till the show's potential permits. We cant deny the fact that IPKKND has a lot of potential ahead.Having a bad phase in between doesn't mean the show should be closed down by showing a proper conclusion. Since a TV show is a long venture its supposed to go through the hilly ride.Lately I saw the show sasural simar ka which was no where in competition in last 7-8 months has just occupied top 5 slot. That speaks itself that TRP slots keep on changing. SARUN has no major reasons to complain, they are doing the show fully concentrated on them. Khushi and Arnav are the best written characters. 4 lions have given them a role of a lifetime. Some phase might be bad but it will bounce back.

When a TV show runs for long years with the lead pair being intact, they form a very strong image in the TV market.


SAkshi tanwar from bade acche lagte hai has been with TV for a long time. She did kahani ghar ghar ki and played a granny also there. .Came back in a negative role in balika vadhu garnering acclaim for the role and finally Priya as bade acche lagte hai. She is a big star on TV. Never faced shortage of work. Same goes for Ram kapoor. From Nyay, Ghar ek mandir ( 2yrs) Kasam se (4 years) till now bade acche lagte hai.

Ram kapoor might have done sone supporting roles.But he didn't leave TV.

The thing is that they have holded TV tightly. They didn't do this coming- going syndrome from tv to films like aman verma, Rajeev. .Because TV gives a stable income and unlimited fame.

Once kareena said in India Today conclave held by TV today network - " films are definitely not the best option to earn money, there is so much of ups and downs, uncertainity compared to other fields , the difficulties in survival.You wake up one morning and discover so many things are changed"

In Tv still one gets chance to improvise in coming episodes.but in movies those 3 hrs of content once released cant be changed..verdict comes in first 3 days. Hit or Flop.

There is no balance in film industry- it was, it is and in future also it will be ruled by filmy families with reference to the bigger picture. But atleast in Tv industry a common guy like Gurmeet can try his luck in the industry , get fame and win a reality show too.

In an interview to Hindustan Times Ekta Kapoor narrates that- "I would any day choose TV over films any day as a producer because Film industry majorly runs on star system .But in TV we still have concepts that draws the audiences."

Actually we have khans, kapoors, bachchans, etc etc already in films..Already crowded and packed by many good looking people,perfect physique, bollywood dancing skills, QualityVoice pitching etc etc.

Tv audience needs a totally a star material for the small screen. Sobti, karan tacker, Kushal tandon, Gurmeet, Karan Singh Grover, Anas Rashid, Harshad Chopra..fill up that gap and make TV look larger. If all good looking Tv heroes go to films then Tv will be left barren.Obviously new people will come ahead, take their place . The new people will learn past mistakes from their seniors and will never go in that direction by leaving their claim to fame.

The objective is..why just actors?, even technicians, crew are more secure with TV shows as they run for long. After a movie is over crew member of the particular PH is left with no work unless a new movie rolls out from that PH.

Even if payment is less in TV , still its quite stable.

Film certainly has its own charm but I personally observe a lot of people like TV because of IPKKND and try to search around IPK kind of content, intense story in various shows they watch .There is a need for more good shows like IPK on television. I feel magic of Tv does rule over cinema at most occasions.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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ya i do agree...

actually I feel its TV which connects more with Ladies(all generation), males (generally above 35 or 40)...

but films are like it comes and goes...if its a good film with some good acting only, then people remember and recognize u...in todays era, if one newcomer gives a flop, then its tough to revive if he is not from filmy family background...

but in Tv, if one show doesnt work also actors get chances many a times...

so stability
is the factor which i feel makes TV a better option for actors who hail from a non filmy background!!!!!!!
Edited by subha_rath2004 - 13 years ago
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Rishitha I slightly dis - agree with you on this buddy

1) movies are less hectic & more flexible - they can take a leave because the entire movie has to be released it wont come out in bits & parts

2) serials have a very hectic schedule - they have to report the very next day whether they like it or not

3) even though i completely dislike SRK i can rant pages on him but i need to admit he has no back ground but he is still freaking popular in bollywood & he has this title "King Khan" (though i personally feel this title belong to Aamir Khan more 😉)

4) From an actor's POV movies are better once they make a good stand

5) Infact i would say TV & Movies go hand in hand - Movies janta come to TV to advertise & TV janta need movie actors to sell their shows 😃

6) Because trps are the base for TV shows serials have to be off air in no time where as in a movie there are so many aspect where we can still ear a livelihood : a) songs are a hit - cds are bought b) certain actors did a fab job they get more roles in future c) the jodi was a hit even though the movie flopped they are brought again d) the costumes can get a different earning as well

7) I dont know the technicalities but for ppl like Ekta Kapoor - who kills whom, how many wives & husband's one has, leaps, K stuff, plastic surgery thats all -sorry i dont buy what she is saying
she has just one concept - saas bahu drama BAS

8) The difference would be once ur on TV u cant shift to movies but when ur on movies we can still shift to TV - (not true all the time though)

Khushi Not A Well Written Character At All Rishitha

Edited by Harshitha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thats very true ricky.

Even i think TV is really doing very great.Its all about getting live and affections.

I can name so many Bollywood actors who dont have an inch of fame as BARUN as ASR has.

These fardeen, suniel shetty, Aftab, Akshaye Khanna have been in this glam world but they cant claim to have a mass following.

while a TV actor like NAZIM mohammad(ahem from saathiya) has that.
and more than that Barun has that.

sometimes i know these Film actors feel if they were as popular as these TV actors
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Posted: 13 years ago
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they say u have to be the master in the field where u work...whatever the field it is doesnt really matter...but u should be the best amongst all in that field...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree. in recent times it was good to see TV gives us good n quality shows😊
Even the script was good in small screen than silver screen😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: RickyBahl

Again iam presenting a thread for telly talk discussion with reference to IPK and its actors not about an actors decisions about the show.Try to introspect.

I know some people only watch IPK on TV but still there exists a populace who really take TV more seriously than films

Always felt that India Forums website is the biggest testimony why TV rules over Cinema. Although its an overall entertainment website, majority of news that originate here are about television.The maximum number of Fans here discuss TV shows than movies.. In that context I want to focus why TV is really special these days than films.

ANTICIPATION OF FANS

Some people fear that when IPK ends in future will the career of BS in TV finish?. So better let him do Films.That is somehow a miscalculated thought.

Well I feel TV is much safer in that sense. And films are just an temporary extension.

While Some fans expect that like other SP heroes he should be associated with this show for the period as long till the show's potential permits. We cant deny the fact that IPKKND has a lot of potential ahead.Having a bad phase in between doesn't mean the show should be closed down by showing a proper conclusion. Since a TV show is a long venture its supposed to go through the hilly ride.Lately I saw the show sasural simar ka which was no where in competition in last 7-8 months has just occupied top 5 slot. That speaks itself that TRP slots keep on changing. SARUN has no major reasons to complain, they are doing the show fully concentrated on them. Khushi and Arnav are the best written characters. 4 lions have given them a role of a lifetime. Some phase might be bad but it will bounce back.

When a TV show runs for long years with the lead pair being intact, they form a very strong image in the TV market.

Note: requesting that please keep the comments specific to the theme of the post rather than a distracted thought and interior propaganda.

SAkshi tanwar from bade acche lagte hai has been with TV for a long time. She did kahani ghar ghar ki and played a granny also there. .Came back in a negative role in balika vadhu garnering acclaim for the role and finally Priya as bade acche lagte hai. She is a big star on TV. Never faced shortage of work. Same goes for Ram kapoor. From Nyay, Ghar ek mandir ( 2yrs) Kasam se (4 years) till now bade acche lagte hai.

Ram kapoor might have done sone supporting roles.But he didn't leave TV.

The thing is that they have holded TV tightly. They didn't do this coming- going syndrome from tv to films like aman verma, Rajeev. .Because TV gives a stable income and unlimited fame.

Once kareena said in India Today conclave held by TV today network - " films are definitely not the best option to earn money, there is so much of ups and downs, uncertainity compared to other fields , the difficulties in survival.You wake up one morning and discover so many things are changed"

In Tv still one gets chance to improvise in coming episodes.but in movies those 3 hrs of content once released cant be changed..verdict comes in first 3 days. Hit or Flop.

There is no balance in film industry- it was, it is and in future also it will be ruled by filmy families with reference to the bigger picture. But atleast in Tv industry a common guy like Gurmeet can try his luck in the industry , get fame and win a reality show too.

In an interview to Hindustan Times Ekta Kapoor narrates that- "I would any day choose TV over films any day as a producer because Film industry majorly runs on star system .But in TV we still have concepts that draws the audiences."

Actually we have khans, kapoors, bachchans, etc etc already in films..Already crowded and packed by many good looking people,perfect physique, bollywood dancing skills, QualityVoice pitching etc etc.

Tv audience needs a totally a star material for the small screen. Sobti, karan tacker, Kushal tandon, Gurmeet, Karan Singh Grover, Anas Rashid, Harshad Chopra..fill up that gap and make TV look larger. If all good looking Tv heroes go to films then Tv will be left barren.Obviously new people will come ahead, take their place . The new people will learn past mistakes from their seniors and will never go in that direction by leaving their claim to fame.

The objective is..why just actors?, even technicians, crew are more secure with TV shows as they run for long. After a movie is over crew member of the particular PH is left with no work unless a new movie rolls out from that PH.

Even if payment is less in TV , still its quite stable.

Film certainly has its own charm but I personally observe a lot of people like TV because of IPKKND and try to search around IPK kind of content, intense story in various shows they watch .There is a need for more good shows like IPK on television. I feel magic of Tv does rule over cinema at most occasions.

@bold- I totally agree. Bollywood runs on star system. Guys like the Khans, Hrithik, Bachchans and Kapoors rule it. Any other people don't really have much power or hold on the audience. Even if a newcomer comes and their first film is a hit, there is no guarantee that they can sustain that. Example: Rajeev Khandelwal. This guy is a phenomenal actor. Anyone who has seen his film Aamir would agree with me. But, he didn't receive his due recognition in Bollywood and guys like Imran Khan and Ranbir Kapoor took away the debut awards instead. Honestly, he is a much better actor than Imran and Ranbir. They took the cake because they are from filmy families. Yeah, and once you leave TV, it becomes very much difficult to make a comeback no matter how popular you were. You come back, and you find that someone has already taken your spot. And I also agree with your comment on TV industry being a source of stable income.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: subha_rath2004

ya i do agree...

actually I feel its TV which connects more with Ladies(all generation), males (generally above 35 or 40)...

but films are like it comes and goes...if its a good film with some good acting only, then people remember and recognize u...in todays era, if one newcomer gives a flop, then its tough to revive if he is not from filmy family background...

but in Tv, if one show doesnt work also actors get chances many a times...

so stability
is the factor which i feel makes TV a better option for actors who hail from a non filmy background!!!!!!!


i fully agree with you on this . My only thought is that, dont consider TV to be inferior.
Once in interview When quizzed amitabh bacchan about his association with jeetendra and his family he told he is free to work in a daily soap too. He finds them quite intersting.

As u said TV is very much a better place for ppl fromm non filmy background.

I think he can do films unless this project called IPKKND gets over in upcoming years



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: RSfilmsPvtltd

thats very true ricky.


Even i think TV is really doing very great.Its all about getting live and affections.

I can name so many Bollywood actors who dont have an inch of fame as BARUN as ASR has.

These fardeen, suniel shetty, Aftab, Akshaye Khanna have been in this glam world but they cant claim to have a mass following.

while a TV actor like NAZIM mohammad(ahem from saathiya) has that.
and more than that Barun has that.

sometimes i know these Film actors feel if they were as popular as these TV actors


true Raj

i know that how it is really wen the curtains of glamour fade away.
ya even that sooraj from diya bati is very popular in all places
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: RickyBahl


i fully agree with you on this . My only thought is that, dont consider TV to be inferior.
Once in interview When quizzed amitabh bacchan about his association with jeetendra and his family he told he is free to work in a daily soap too. He finds them quite intersting.

As u said TV is very much a better place for ppl fromm non filmy background.

I think he can do films unless this project called IPKKND gets over in upcoming years





ya i agree...people after films generally come to TV because they feel they will get good work...this only shows how much stable TV is than Films...had it been 20 years back when an outsider was given equal oppurtunity, then perhaps an actor atleast would have felt safe to enter Films leaving TV...!!!!

But if u see the current scenario, its tough for an outsider (Non filmy family baclground) to sustain there...

if we count the actors from nonfilmy background then hardly we find any (except a few)
these days!!!!!!!!! but those few are generally models or somehwere they are attached with the fashion world...!!!!!!!

so if someone is from an acting school or just a newcomer without any training in acting tries his hand in films, then its very tough for him to sustain there...
...Very very tough!!!!!!


Edited by subha_rath2004 - 13 years ago

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