Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by ltelidevara


What happened to her mobile? She could have called Mohit or Aswini ..Thankfully she got down without injuring herself but it is a risk for her. Years back they showed this in KD but these makers still thought that it makes sense to show this..probably for TRPs. Sai getting down the pipes makes for an exciting watch. So they just went ahead butchering Virat’s charecter who is not like Rono. 


She checked her bag and found it missing and realised that virat took it so she can't call anyone for help πŸ€’

Posted: 2 years ago

I think this post was about Virat's behaviour which is rattling us all in the past few weeks. I understand that If we discuss Sai or other characters , it hampers the ongoing discussion flow. 

If we want to discuss some off the track things, we can always create a new thread 😊

I apologise to the author of this thread for digressing from the actual post... Because on some level or the other , we all are on the same page...πŸ˜‚ We know where Sai is wrong and where Virat is wrong and where every other character is wrong ... So better to stick to the topic of the thread πŸ‘πŸ˜Š

Posted: 2 years ago
Originally posted by Soanz.19


Just to put it out here, Sai did wrong by faking her death but she was in constant fear and guilt throughout the show. The first thing she did when she got the mic was publically apologise to everyone for faking her death and giving them such a big scare. There's no hint of guilt or remorse in Virat for locking up Sai in her bedroom. Infact, he's justifying this act of his. 

As regards taking Devi outside her home without her legal guardian's permission, well the legal guardian was drugging her for years and separated her from her newborn baby and husband. I can only imagine the situation if someone rescuing Devi from such abuse would stop to take permissions.


Legal guardian.... more like forced guardian or jailer. Kaku with the help of her brother-in-law's forcefully separated her adult daughter from her husband and daughter and forcefully confined her in the home for years whilst drugging her so that she loses her sanity and capability to live her life on her own will. 


It's ridiculous for anybody to refer to kaku as devi tai's legal guardian given that going by these facts tai was a captive of kaku, and for kaku to be considered legal guardian to her 18+ daughter she would have had to have actually legally applied to register herself as her daughter's guardian under strong medical grounds, but we all know the court of kaku herself decided that by right of giving birth she can hold her daughter in her home without her will and make all her life decisions for her and without seeking any rights from the court. πŸ€’


 

Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by monsi08


Sai has some real good and meaningful dialogs today... πŸ‘

And in the weekly precap she is indicating something which she is going to do ...  Any idea what is she talking about ?

College transfer or leaving studies, per KD.

Posted: 2 years ago

All this just because wifey wants to go college rather than sit for a pooja... what nonsense. Does virat even realise how he looks or sounds right now justifying locking his wife in her room just because she's adamant to go college? 

Posted: 2 years ago
Originally posted by MusicMuse


This !

Completely agree with what you said. It always baffles me how this forum always treats Sai , a character as flawed as possible,  as if she's some flawless paragon of virtue,  which she most definitely is not. Whatever she does wrong,  there are literally thousand babying excuses , bachhi hai, teenager hai, immature hai , orphan hai   family nehi hai, palace nehi hai.. yada yada.. so she can have a snooty attitude,  accepted. She can interfere in other people's personal matters. Accepted. She can be brazen and rude at the drop of a hat. Accepted. She can have an opinion about everything in the family, though when it comes to responsiblity and family rules , then she's an outsider  who need not conform to it.


Whereas Virat and Pakhi are never given such leeway, especially Virat. All the readymade pampering and excuses are for Sai only, nothing to be spared for Virat , he is not even a human being but a monster.

If she interferes in his work affairs and make him a butt of joke in front of his superior officer, oh it's perfectly alright after all she's a noble heart and noble intention. And if Virat locks her in their bedroom for 10 minutes, suddenly it's a serious case of domestic violence. People whonsay these things and casually throw around words like domestic violence do they even know it's meaning ?? What it looks like , domestic violence?? 

To say nothing of her other antics.

All characters of Ghum are flawed , they're humane , that's partly why this show is so popular. It's refreshing to see a "vamp" so pitifully human , a female lead so brashly flawed , a male lead who's often vulnerable and gloriously flawed. 

Provided we have the generosity to look at characters with unbiased view.

But.. sigh !

Such utter hypocrisy of treatment towards different characters make me sick to my stomach. 


@Bold: While I may agree with other bits of the discussion, I do not agree with your statement in bold. Here you have a much older man, who has married a teenager, who has no other family in the world, who is much younger than him and over whom he considers he has authority and he has decided to lock her in her room restricting her freedom, has taken away her phone so that she cannot contact anyone outside and will plan to let her out as and when his family decides she is needed in a pooja. There is no suggestion that it would have only been for 10 minutes as even Ninad was saying she should go to college, but come back early so clearly that would be a significant period of time. Virat also had no idea about whether there is food or water in the room (particularly given the rules of CN), by good luck she appears to have access to bathroom facilities. Her only mode of escape was to climb down pipes from the upper floors of the building, which has its own obvious dangers. What part of that is not considered abuse or domestic violence? And this is all before taking into account how he has been acting with her over the past day. Domestic abuse as a whole is not only limited to physical violence, but also emotional trauma and torture. Everything about his actions today screamed abuse and I do not consider the term is being thrown around lightly. 

Edited by Tiptione - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by msin


It was revolting .. we knew virat had locked  Sai in the room.. but today misr of his family members came to know about it .. and still they did nothing 

thankfully ashwini and Mohit were not there ..

Mansi , Shivani and ninad did nothing .. they just berated virat .. and virat was not at all apologetic about it ..



This is the same family which has made their own daughter Devyani mad .. by locking her for years .. 

I am glad Sai had the fortitude to come out of her prison .. and escape .. but she could have broken her limb ..

Right now this is so disgusting.. I want Sai to run and put FiR against virat for locking her in room .. domestic abuse ..  

would he have let of any man who did the same to his wife ..and it was reported in station 


Just want to put my points for the comments where virat's uncalled behavior is being compared with sai's. 

Yes sai too made people do certain things which they don't want to do. But it can't & can never compared with virat's actions. 

1)Forcing Trimurti to attend her college function. Sai was so wrong in forcing them. But in order to make them do what she wants she didn't hurt them by manhandling, denying food or locking them in room. She played stupid & impulsive prank which would have costed only HER. Even while doing such stupid act, she was guilty throughout the day & genuinely apologised them. And the result of her prank only ended in trimurti enjoying her college function thoroughly. No one got hurted here because of sai's zid. 

2) Cancelling virat's transfer. 

Sai decided to cancel virat's transfer only when he indirectly blamed her infront of everyone by saying she would be happy without him. She knows that he is taking tranfer for personal reasons not for work. She didn't wanted virat to go away from family because of her. And her zid of getting virat tranfer cancelled ended up in virat reconciliation with his brother for which virat desperately waited for many days. Again no one got hurt because of sai's zid. 

3) Eloping devi tai without taking permission from her legal guardian.

I don't even feel the need to explain this. Everyone knows about devi tai's so called gurdian actions. And how the gurdian & her chamchas treated her for many years. So🀷.

In all these incidents the reason behind sai's zid is others happiness. Be it trimurti enjoying her function, virat celebrating festival with his family, devi getting a happy life. She never made other do things to satisfy her ego like virat. And she was completely guilty while doing all these unlike virat who took pride in manhandling a girl, locking his wife, throwing women at midnight & denying food. 

Don't understand where the comparison even comes. There is so much difference between impulsiveness & inhumanity. Both can never be compared. 

Posted: 2 years ago
Originally posted by Tiptione



@Bold: While I may agree with other bits of the discussion, I do not agree with your statement in bold. Here you have a much older man, who has married a teenager, who has no other family in the world, who is much younger than him and over whom he considers he has authority and he has decided to lock her in her room restricting her freedom, has taken away her phone so that she cannot contact anyone outside and will plan to let her out as and when his family decides she is needed in a pooja. There is no suggestion that it would have only been for 10 minutes as even Ninad was saying she should go to college, but come back early so clearly that would be a significant period of time. Virat also had no idea about whether there is food or water in the room (particularly given the rules of CN), by good luck she appears to have access to bathroom facilities. Her only mode of escape was to climb down pipes from the upper floors of the building, which has its own obvious dangers. What part of that is not considered abuse or domestic violence? And this is all before taking into account how he has been acting with her over the past day. Domestic abuse as a whole is not only limited to physical violence, but also emotional trauma and torture. Everything about his actions today screamed abuse and I do not consider the term is being thrown around lightly. 


Thanks for this. People assume abusing your partner is just hitting them, but not giving them food, kicking them out of the house at night, using physical force, restricting their freedoms via confinement and taking away their phone so they can't contact anyone for help, and verbally abusing are all behaviours that have been linked to cases of abuse/ domestic abuse. Other than hitting his wife, virat has displayed every other common behaviour of a domestic abuser, so nobody is just using the word abuse or domestic abuse etc casually here for virat. 

Posted: 2 years ago
Originally posted by Kumuda-123


Just want to put my points for the comments where virat's uncalled behavior is being compared with sai's. 

Yes sai too made people do certain things which they don't want to do. But it can't & can never compared with virat's actions. 

1)Forcing Trimurti to attend her college function. Sai was so wrong in forcing them. But in order to make them do what she wants she didn't hurt them by manhandling, denying food or locking them in room. She played stupid & impulsive prank which would have costed only HER. Even while doing such stupid act, she was guilty throughout the day & genuinely apologised them. And the result of her prank only ended in trimurti enjoying her college function thoroughly. No one got hurted here because of sai's zid. 

2) Cancelling virat's transfer. 

Sai decided to cancel virat's transfer only when he indirectly blamed her infront of everyone by saying she would be happy without him. She knows that he is taking tranfer for personal reasons not for work. She didn't wanted virat to go away from family because of her. And her zid of getting virat tranfer cancelled ended up in virat reconciliation with his brother for which virat desperately waited for many days. Again no one got hurt because of sai's zid. 

3) Eloping devi tai without taking permission from her legal guardian.

I don't even feel the need to explain this. Everyone knows about devi tai's so called gurdian actions. And how the gurdian & her chamchas treated her for many years. So🀷.

In all these incidents the reason behind sai's zid is others happiness. Be it trimurti enjoying her function, virat celebrating festival with his family, devi getting a happy life. She never made other do things to satisfy her ego like virat. And she was completely guilty while doing all these unlike virat who took pride in manhandling a girl, locking his wife, throwing women at midnight & denying food. 

Don't understand where the comparison even comes. There is so much difference between impulsiveness & inhumanity. Both can never be compared. 


Great post πŸ‘ So true that the things sai and virat have both done are incomparable as sai's actions don;t cause harm and neither does she ever intend to do so when she does anything.... which is the complete opposite to virat's actions and intentions when he has done things to sai especially. 


Also can everyone plz stop referring to kaku as tai's legal guardian plz, because she wasn't her 'legal' guardian to begin with at all, she had merely used her right as a mother to think she can confine, drug and control her adult daughter and her entire life. There's nothing legal about what kaku did to tai and neither did she seek any legal routes at any point of time to be able to keep her adult daughter under her so-called care and custody/ confinement. 

Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by sammy17



Thanks for this. People assume abusing your partner is just hitting them, but not giving them food, kicking them out of the house at night, using physical force, restricting their freedoms via confinement and taking away their phone so they can't contact anyone for help, and verbally abusing are all behaviours that have been linked to cases of abuse/ domestic abuse. Other than hitting his wife, virat has displayed every other common behaviour of a domestic abuser, so nobody is just using the word abuse or domestic abuse etc casually here for virat. 


People fail to understand that no one has right to treat anyone else like this. Thats where Indian education system fails us, and entertainment industry as well.


in US, if a child is punished like this and the child complains in school, teacher/ board can even called child protection services to investigate/ advice the parents.


Here its about a spouse, like Msin said, even after considerable amount of time, him not cooling down and realizing his folly, even after Shivani saying its not a jail and she is not a criminal for you to treat her like this, he did not understand where he went wrong and to go up immediately and let her out. These are not called grays/ flaws. The entire family incl Shivani by not forcing Virat to open the door is equivalent injustice to Sai.


There is no need to compare it with Sai's past, present or future behavior coz it is irrelevant to how Virat is behaving.  Reaction to someone else action cannot be a crime that is punishable under IPC which an IPS officer should be aware of.


Both movies and Televison needs to show wrong as wrong, instead of justifying it or make people believe it is an acceptable behavior in response to how a girl or guy behaves.



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