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Posted: 13 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Laila2009


An interesting analysis of the scene. What I found interesting are you comments, and I have underlined them are the signs of what I consider appealing in a leading male character.

Laila I cannot see any underlines😕Is it only me😕

I have pointed out that often Indian leading men are weak, feeble, fickle, rona dona, obsessive and never portrayed as strong, confident, powerful and sophisticated and saw TVS as a refreshing change. It is more inlines of what we see as leading men in the west.

Well Indian dramas have a different taste altogether...Here only two males work...Either Elf'S (EXPRESSIONLESS FACES) masochistic men who do nothing but pine the females on the walls or mumma's boys...who do nothing but make sour faces in the name of acting..Agreed VS is a refreshing change..He is a strong male character No doubt about it

However, from what I am reading from other posts, these traits are seen as negative among Indians and hence my reading of the scene was entirely different and I saw this as something amazing. Sure he is sweeping her of her feet but to me it read, I am giving you permission to open your heart up to me even though I am a Takur and you are Bedini - you can fall in love with me. I believe he KNOWS she has feelings for him but she's afraid to come to terms with them and he was RiGHT. I was like, this is really great stuff - very bold and very 50 Shades of Grey - modern I should say...but it clearly too good to be true for Indian writers to have taken such bold steps and change the face of leading men on zeetv dramas and tragically these traits are still going to associated with negative characters and positive characters are those who a dimwits, rona dona, obsessive and annoying males who act like fools and don't have a spine.
Your interpretation of the scene is different but as I saw it the scene was all about a whole new vibe to his character...If he was only actually waiting for her approval he could have held her hand and expressed her desire to marry her..The scene is not about Vikram being negative or positive..It just reveals that all is not what it seems to be ..Everything is not what it seems to be...The scene was great not because it was a romantic scene but due to the fact that CV's wonderfully potrayed what they wanted to...ie all is not true and genuine and TVS is actually manipulating her thought process..His mannerisms ..everything shows how he actually sets to trap her and make her submit whole heartedly...
Regarding potrayal of men in Indian shows..LOL you have to actually see that the audience lubbs masochistic strong men and not whimpering ones..You ahve to see the TRP's of the so called hawwt shows...and its the dim wit bahus that ppl love..See their TRP's LOL😆

Sad.
Yes Sad that Males are actually treated as either torturing or dimwits

Plus the Sugni and Aditya jodi is gross considering he is TVS's nephew.
Gross 😲That does not make sense as Vikram and Sugni are not married so I do not think it IS..ppl have the right to fall in love ...with anyone they feel like..Love is beyond all these narrow loyalties

Plus I like Aditya and Amrita.
I like Amrita too

Overall, the idea that TVS turns negative goes against so many incidents within the whole show, so it will be truly disappointing if TVS turns out to be a jerk and not the main lead.



I have maintained that VS is not negative but he is not pure either..He is grey...I am still not convinced that he will be a lech...I still do believe that we have yet to see many layers in him...I am yet to form an opinion
Regarding lead..I do not understand what's the great issue about...Lead or not..Romantically linked or not Vikram Sugni are the crux of the show...Nothing can change that..I am here for a strong story and not for a particular romantic jodi..I lubb their chemistry..Romantic or otherwise..That's what makes them interesting😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Piu, you actually made a full post on that scene? LOL you loved it so much?

LOL Anu yes!! I loved it..Loved it not because I was swooning on the romantic dance😆But because the scene exactly potrayed what it was meant for..That the love of Vikram is not genuine..His whole body language actually potrayed his intentions that it was a trap for Sugni

I was umm kinda put off...the whole seduction routine honestly CREEPED me out...there wasn't anything CHARMING about it as far as I'm concerned cuz the DELIBERATION in each thing he did...the way he lit the candles, the way he touched her by sliding his hands over her body, the way he was talking to her...was literally broadcasting his intentions on a loudspeaker...the kind of "CHAAHAT" he speaks of is CRYSTAL CLEAR now ki KIS type ki chaahat hai use Sugni se.
Well I did not find it CREEPY..coz I never expected Vikarm thakur to be the goody good thakur who will fight for her and give her a status in society..He has ulterior motives..Motives ranging from revenge to possession to her complete surrender..lots of things ..which are yet to be revealed.Had I imagined VS to be her knight in shining armour..I would have been creeped out too.But certainly there is more to VS since day 1..there have been dangerous hints..The scene isn't CHARMING...It is supposed to be an errie and spooky scene ...and thats what makes the scene fascinating coz it did bring out what they inteded to show .

I always said that I can take any grey shade in this character except for turning him into a LECHER...and unfortunately that is exactly what they've shown...I'm not sure if I'll be comfortable enough watching this show much longer at this rate...sad waste of a story with great potential...they could have shown OTHER grey shades to Vikram...but they chose to go with THIS one.

Well..I agree that he had resorted to seduction...But the character of TVS is more of a chanakya ...Ever heard of Sama ,dama ,danda, bheda for getting what he desires...
Vikram tried everything and seduction was also a part of it...
He used his
sama -samarthya... all his might strength to stand by her..and her family
dama- he tried to help her with all the money and financial aid...
danda..He even once tried to be intimidating to her
bheda -he actually projected himself to be different from others too...

Similarly..why only seduction ...he used all the steps to gain her trust and make her fall for him slowly steadily and stealthily..
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Now the question comes--- WHY ?
answers could be many ... for instance..
1.The moment he laid her eyes on her he was intrigued ,fascinated ,attracted drawn towards her and she challenged him that no thakur has been able to trap her... I exactly remember her words... "aaj tak kis thakur mein wo dum nahi jo Sugni ko bandh sake.." Who knows those words might have triggered something...
We have seen that VS has a very sophisticated approach to everything...So may be an interesting power play ..a journey to possess her..to acquire her...COMPLETEY ...
Who would not like to tame an untamed spirit...FUN!!Isn't it?

2. He might be really attracted to her free spirit..her valour --- physical aspect being a part of it.----
.So maybe he wants to have an exclusive right on her...To claim her as his own...That is not love..that cannot be called lust either...Just to have full rights on her...Not only on her body but on her soul too...Remember what's the FUN in acquiring a woman only as a physical being..It has to be the complete surrender of her heart with her whole being...
He could have done her sar dhakai forcefully and fulfilled his physical desire...no one could have stopped him from that...But I guess what he wants a complete SUGNI with her mind body and soul...That is not love ..that is not lust either.Its an issue of power to posses and get whatever you desire...
3.May be settling scores with JT ..he actually stood up in panchayat and took sides with Sugni and her family to settle scores with JT ...

Why are we only viewing the seduction as CREEPY...when each and every step he took had an ulterior motive to it..,(REAL MOTIVE IS YET TO BE SEEN... can be one of the reasons mentioned above or may be a combination of all three..WE ARE YET TO BE ENLIGHTENED)

It was a step by step journey... to gain her trust..to make her worship him like God..To make her obliged..to make her fall in love..To make her dance to his tunes..finally culminating in seduction..In short all the steps towards a COMPLETE POSSESSION on her mind body and soul...
1.Her mind started thinking about him when he became her support system...
2.Her soul started reverberating in his reverence when he went out of his league to stand beside her..
3.Her heart started beating for him..when he confessed his love and made her believe that she also loves him..

4.And finally her body did give in to his touch..yes she was lost in the moment ...
So a complete journey...for acquistion..possession..

You have to watch todays' episode when he says that a gal who did not even allow anyone to speak in midst of her blabbering is actually hesitant to speak now and is unable to find words..There was an air of superiority and a victorious glee on his face as if saying - "SEE YOU CLAIMED TO BE DIFFERENT BUT NOW I AM THE MASTER OF YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS TOO..."
That is the kind of effect he has on her...
I still believe strongly that there is a FUN quotient ..a challenge game definitely involved in Vikram's attitude...No fun in forcefully acquiring her...To handle a woman he needed to win her heart and make her surrender whole heartedly..Not only physically but with all her heart and soul. That's his Style...That's why I called him a preying mantis...Luring his prey ..into submission...


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Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: kamala2012

Vikram as a lech? Really? Is that what the CVs are hinting?😲

That would be hard to watch. And it sounds like Bairi Piya. They tried to redeem the lech Thakur into a good guy but it didn't work and the show had to end soon.

Really wish the CVs of PSH will not do that.

Kamala what's this whole comparison with with Bairi Piya never watched this show...Can you give some details😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Awww Thats a long story chal me short mein sunati hun..ME and PIG are PIGS to each other Bole PARTNER'S IN GAHTIYA SHAYARI 😆demo deti hun😆

Ek hun main ek meri PIG..
we always do jiggy jig jig
Vikram is becoming ganju he needs a wig..
my fav fruit is anjeer english mein bole to FIG...

Haila *ducks from flying mojris*😆PIG ab teri bari..where art thou🥳

wah wah wah.👏...aap toh kaafi achchi shayar hai.😉

PIG ka full form toh pata chala lekin aapki shayari kisi bhi angle se besuri nahi lagi...if this is what makes u PIG then would to read ur shayaris on regular basis😆.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: ash_arti


vikram is definitely trying to win over sugni asap now for what particular reason is the big question.
is it becoz of her refusal to become bedini?
is it becoz of her boldness?
is it becoz he is physically attracted to her?
is it becoz he is a womaniser and now set his eyes on her?
is he genuinely liking her and eager for her acceptance?

what made him get attracted to/behave like this with sugni is the big question.
Its tough to accept he can be negative becoz from day one he has been kind to the people of the village and other thsn jwala thakur he wasnt shown disliking or hating anyone

however the show may proceed but i am glad to see for a change a strong dominating and manipulative male character who doesnt indulge in cheap antics. Vikram vs Sugni will be exciting to watch eitherways both love or revenge...

Couldn't AGREE more👍🏼..Wonderfully put Arathi👏..I am stumped🤗Also I would like to draw the attention towards a particular scene with Haldi where Vikram says that we should actually try and focus on winning hearts ...So We actually see a manipulative ,sophisticated thakur...who takes a long and alter route--- the polished way to win the heart of SUGNI which would ultimately lead to her COMPLETE SURRENDER with her heart,mind,body and soul.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
yes piu.. u nailed it...exactly what i feel about the scene too...

i also did not find it creepy exactly for the same reason u mentioned..if he was really genuine then such things would have been creepy but its not... the intention of the scene was to showcase some hidden motives...for which we have to wait and watch !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: chalhov

Piu is not the last scene between Sugni and Vikram somewhat like thet lau aur patanga scene😉😆

Ya Totally EXACTLY it was 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: chweetu

Wonderful post piu...👏👏N me just not liked d yesterday's epi..especially d dance sequence..😕😕
N surely TVS will turn negative..

Thankeez re...Yeay Jasmine bhi aa gayi.🤗.Pehle ye bata where is your chunar ..We need to Cover the Gulabiya's bare bcak too warna PIG distract hoing😆
Arey you did not like yesterday's episode..PLOTWISE it was great yaar Not because we have a lovey dovey seductive dance but because it actually dangerously hinted to what lies ahead..TVS NEGATIVE not very sure..But I guess he would be GREY
.d things which nobody wants to notice ij..if TVS is genuine in his love ( or)..find d appropriate name for d feeling he have for sugni...😕..Y can't d man who can oppose d whole village for sugni...just go n tell his family members ki...he loves sugni...n wants to marry her??bath wahin pe khatham hojathi na..😉😆...or if he has global intentions of opening d eyes of adi...regarding bediya's (really??)...then give sugni some time man..y u try to seduce her..or else..2 or 4 romantic movies dikhadethe sugni ko...at least d scene remains sane..😃😃😃.n i still have d doubt..haye re...seduction lead to confession??? 😲😲😲...n hawww...Marriage is a ritual???and any thing u do under d name of Love is just awesome???😲😲...I wish ki...sugni doesn't loose her sanity..before d things go out of sugni's hands...well I expect her to remain smart...in this matter.....

LOL Jasmine that's what the whole post was about that Vikram's love is not pure and genuine yaar😆and Well seduction was only the final nail in the coffin ...There were steps leading to confession ..a slow and steady process where he ripped her soul apart,manipulated her thinking and finally usurping her thoughts and possessing her mind body and soul...
@ BLUE here it is insane as Vikram is not genuine with her BUT ITS TRUE THAT Love is above all the rituals ...Marriage is sacred but Love transcends everything..But here Vikram's feelings are not genuine I guess so it makes it painful

.I don't care about who is paired with whom..at d end of d day...this show...should show...how a Thakur..is going to save d self-respect of a bediya..gal...😳😳n bediya gal should fight against her fate..to get a normal life like any other human being...

😳
Pairing and lead are just an aspect...Honestly..I would have loved the Adi angle too only IF MY POPAT COULD ACT YAARBut Vikram Sugni is fascinating..They are a treat to watch..Even if it actually puts them against each other...It will be fascinating to watch...The show is about hope and I am still waiting to see what lies ahead.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: preety_219

wah wah wah.👏...aap toh kaafi achchi shayar hai.😉

PIG ka full form toh pata chala lekin aapki shayari kisi bhi angle se besuri nahi lagi...if this is what makes u PIG then would to read ur shayaris on regular basis😆.

Shukriya shukriya..Anytime yaar ..😆
Me to always pakaying with sharyari ghatiya
khadi karungi sabke kanon ki khatiya...
shayari se sabka dimag khaun
roz naye nuskhe azamaun\
ghatiya shayari ka bhndaar yahan bhi laun..
Batao isse bura bhi kuch hoing bhala😆

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Originally posted by: -Srushti-

@ PIG!!!!!! Oyee...so sweet you miissed me...the thing iis I have not seen the episode...and after reading some posts in teh morning...And Iwas like VS waltzing on O re piya😲...and Seduction😕

PIG!!🤗
Tu aa gayi
sabke dilon pe cha gai
tere ane se dil mili dil ko tassali ..
Dekh teri yaad mein idhar machi hai khali balli😆
Isse ghatiya kuch ho to kahooo😆
BLAME Poojie she invoked the ghatiya shayar in me again😆

Something did not gel with me...So I have yet to see it..If I can bring myself to it...Tiill then...this is just for you ' Mein aa gai'😛😳
Oye no bahana
Tumhe padega apna take lana😆

@ Mansi...Owww...thank you for miissing me so much...I hope I can post after seeing the episode...

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