Thank god Onir isn't like arjun - Page 6

Originally posted by: ameilia

Peach Onir will need that money how else is he going to pay for the snacks and chai?😆

Not to mention treating a woman like JLO can be really tiring and exhausting.He mite need money to buy ear plugs or be cautious caz JLO's behaviour can turn anyone mad or dumb.He mite need the money for his own treatment after his arrival in D family.

Originally posted by: -Yamz-

I understand where you're coming from, and i even understand what the topicmaker is trying to explain, but the matter of fact is that Arjun is different from Onir, and Onir is different from Arjun, but there's one HUGE fact that can even turn Onir into a guy who listens to everything Purvi says or does, and that is LOVE.

If Onir loves Purvi in the true sense, he will listen to everything she asks for, but if not in the true sense, his practicality and ego is ought to come in the way of their relationship.

But you see, Arjun is madly in LOVE with Purvi and will always be for an eternity, and which is why he is the one who always sacrifices and listens to his true love. Although i find Purvi's nonsensical demands extremely stupid. 😆

Originally posted by: ameilia

The question is can Onir do anything that Arjun didnt,wont and cant do?

i just love PuNir and don want to argue with anyone here; thanks

Originally posted by: AquaNymph

he cant even do one percent of what Arjun did.

if archana asked him to prove his love and stay in chawl, will onir live? Definitely no. His ego (which he calls self respect) comes in between. And i can say that because he refused to treat ovi just because she threw tauntrums. Itni jaldi haar maan gaya??? lolzzz.

onir dint agree to treat ovi not cuse she threw tantrums

Originally posted by: sherma

onir dint agree to treat ovi not cuse she threw tantrums

but cause evn he knows whn a patient isnt cmfy wid a dctr,she will nevr b treated

arjun was stupid to follow wat purvi tld him to doin name of luv,

i will never do that

will u do that

if ur boyfriend/gf tells u tells u to do wat ur heart doesnt agree to?

I do not want to interrupt this meeting of minds between the two of you, but in the interests of accuracy and fair play, and wrt @blue, I feel obliged to point out that the reason Onir does not want to treat Ovi is not his ego or lack of it.

It is because, as he has said any number of times, Ovi does NOT want him to treat her, and refuses to co-operate with him, and under these circumstances, he does not think he can treat her successfully. If I were in his place, I would feel the same.

It is not a question of shirking his responsibility or giving up on Ovi halfway. When he starts treating her, he has no idea of the extent of her resistance to being treated by him. Her acute dislike of him is directly related to Purvi being his wife, and he is completely in the dark about all this background to Ovi's behaviour. He has to go by what he sees, and going by the way Ovi declares loud and clear that she does NOT want him to treat her, he makes a professional assessment that it will not work, and that in the first place it will not be good for Ovi herself. There is nothing wrong with this that I can see.

I loved, and I still love Arjun as if he had been my own son , and because of him, I came to care for Purvi as well, and to celebrate their love in innumerable posts last year. But now all that is in the past, and both their characters have been butchered beyond recognition, especially Purvi's. This has frustrated me deeply. But I do not let this affect my objective assessment of a character like Onir who is an extraordinarily decent man, and a very caring and loving husband. I do not unload on Onir my frustration about what has happened to Arjun. No one should do that.

As for Arjun, no one, repeat no one, has spent more time and effort defending him in this forum for months on end than I have. So, very few here have more of a right to comment on and to criticise him than I have. What he has done is so stupid that I have no words for it. He has let a self-centred girl destroy him totally and lock him into an impossible marriage with a hysterical wife, and then she has thrown away the key. This, my dears, is NOT love, it is idiocy pure and simple.

As I have noted above,true love,even of the most devoted kind, should not turn a man (or a woman) into a sheep, agreeing with all the impossible demands of the loved one.

While my poor Arjun has proved that he has left all good sense behind, I do hope that at least Onir will turn out to be a lover who can show his loved one where she is going wrong, and also set her right. That, to my mind, is the best kind of love, and this whether it is between a man and a woman, or between a parent and a child.

This said, I am glad, Yamz, that you too think that Purvi is getting to be unbearable. She deserves a solid walloping. As for Arjun, I have often felt like giving him not just a wallop, but a sound kick in his backside with one of a pair of extra stout football boots. He deserves it and more for his sheer stupidity and fecklessness.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: AquaNymph

well said yamz..

Arjun's love is intense.and love doesnt have any definitions for being right or wrong, true or false.

what Onir has is ego not self respect.. it's like how dare she leave me like that and go without telling.. and then slowly giving up and feeling a lost battle and then following like a pomerian pup.

Purvi just asked him to treat his sister keeping his anger and so-called-ego-termed -selfrespect aside, is that too much to ask for?

@TM:your topic should have named "Onir is different from Arjun" instead of "Onir isnt like Arjun" if it is not meant to be instigating a fan group.

Originally posted by: -Yamz-

I understand where you're coming from, and i even understand what the topicmaker is trying to explain, but the matter of fact is that Arjun is different from Onir, and Onir is different from Arjun, but there's one HUGE fact that can even turn Onir into a guy who listens to everything Purvi says or does, and that is LOVE.

If Onir loves Purvi in the true sense, he will listen to everything she asks for, but if not in the true sense, his practicality and ego is ought to come in the way of their relationship.

But you see, Arjun is madly in LOVE with Purvi and will always be for an eternity, and which is why he is the one who always sacrifices and listens to his true love. Although i find Purvi's nonsensical demands extremely stupid. 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree, but I think that was not the point of the topic maker. I think she was trying to point out that Onir was not likely to give in so easily to Purvi's demands and do all kinds of things that went clear against both his wishes and his convictions, in the way that Arjun had done on that hilltop.

As for this, the jury is still out but I have an uneasy suspicion that the good doctor, his temporary show of firmness notwithstanding, will soon by overcome by his love for his Mishti, and will turn up in Mumbai ready to do her bidding.

Then he will have become exactly like Arjun, except that he is legally married to Ms.Mahaanta, and Arjun is not, only dreaming of her off and on.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

I do not want to interrupt this meeting of minds between the two of you, but in the interests of accuracy and fair play, and wrt @blue, I feel obliged to point out that the reason Onir does not want to treat Ovi is not his ego or lack of it.

It is because, as he has said any number of times, Ovi does NOT want him to treat her, and refuses to co-operate with him, and under these circumstances, he does not think he can treat her successfully. If I were in his place, I would feel the same.

As for Arjun, no one, repeat no one, has spent more time and effort defending him in this forum for months on end than I have. So, very few here have more of a right to comment on and to criticise him than I have. What he has done is so stupid that I have no words for it. He has let a self-centred girl destroy him totally and lock him into an impossible marriage with a hysterical wife, and then she has thrown away the key. This, my dears, is NOT love, it is idiocy pure and simple.

As I have noted above,true love,even of the most devoted kind, should not turn a man (or a woman) into a sheep, agreeing with all the impossible demands of the loved one.

While my poor Arjun has proved that he has left all good sense behind, I do hope that at least Onir will turn out to be a lover who can show his loved one where she is going wrong, and also set her right. That, to my mind, is the best kind of love, and this whether it is between a man and a woman, or between a parent and a child.

This said, I am glad, Yamz, that you too think that Purvi is getting to be unbearable. She deserves a solid walloping. As for Arjun, I have often felt like giving him not just a wallop, but a sound kick in his backside with one of a pair of extra stout football boots. He deserves it and more for his sheer stupidity and fecklessness.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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I have edited my post to take into account the point about responsibility, and you might like to take a look at it (below) if you have the time and the inclination. Not that I think that will make any difference to you, since your mind is made up, and I never argue with anyone one whose mind is made up. It is a waste of time and effort, and then again, everyone of us has a right to his or her views. That of course includes me.

I was a bit intrigued by the "selfishness of not turning into a sheep", which I presume means that to be unselfish in love, one has necessarily to turn into a sheep.Well, my poor Arjun fits that definition to a T.

Except that he does not seem to be at all happy with his sacrifice on behalf of Purvi, as you would have expected him to be. He says as much to her when he corners her near his car in a past episode, when he asks her what HE has got out of it, whereas both she and Ovi have got what they wanted. He was then very far from enjoying his sacrifice, he was angry and frustrated. He must now be even more so, which is why he was glaring reproachfully at Purvi at that puja.

The ancient Greeks would sacrifice white bulls to Zeus, king of the gods,but the bull had to go willingly to the sacrifice. Arjun did not go willingly. On that hilltop, he was emotionally blackmailed and coshed into submission. If he had agreed willingly, no amount of tantrums from Ovi would have riled him now. In fact it would have made his sacrifice all the greater, and should have made him happy, not resentful and frustrated. But it clearly does not, and that gives me hope that the old Arjun can be resurrected.

I know that you will not see any of the above as I do, but never mind. The cardinal mantra in this forum is agree to disagree, and we should do just that, and call it quits. At least I intend to do so.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: AquaNymph

well when u start a work umpteen obstacles will come. But that doesnt mean that u give up.Onir, he knew right from the start how Ovi is. Then why did he start her treatment in first sense?And why did he leave half the treatment? We have seen Manav, Archana, Arjun and even Purvi convincing Ovi about Onir, but did Onir himself talk to her and assure her about him? Did he himself tell her about her complications? Instead he was complaining to Arjun.

Tackling and Tolerating people is an art and requires a great heart. That is what Arjun has not Onir. Onir is a good guy, i agree. But he is good only to the people who are good to him. If anyone begs to differ from him he reacts.

If i were in Onir's place, i would take this as a challenge and never leave a work incomplete and i'll definitely not give up so soon and run away.

@bold:As i always say, love doesnt have a definitions. What you have mentioned is practicality not love. True love is selfless. And your definition has selfishness of not turning into a sheep.

When i say selfless i dont mean Purvi is selfless. Selfless as long as it has just giving and not hurting a single other person. And only Arjun fits this fact (which is the actual definition of love in the holy bible) Arjun agreed to Purvi becasue that would hurt only him not any other person. If purvi's stupid demands are to hurt someother person then he would have never agreed. And that is definitely not idiocy or stupidity or wimp-ish.

I agree with u shyamala .