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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Jaishankar

Kools,Kalpi,masti and Varsha dears and most beleive that Archu is siding Ovi more here and did not bother about Purvi 😆..I was appalled to say the least on that 😉

Goodness I would never understand so should Archu leave her own kids and keep going behind Purvi always ,cant one day ARchu be with her other kids.If she did she is taunted as Archu differentiates between Adopted and biological whereas I always felt Archu has more soft corner for Purvi than her other kids..
So Archu loves Purvi if she breaks Arjun - Ovi marriage then and if she does wishes both her daughters happiness as any mother would do she is a bad mother 😲 !!!! The decision was well taken by three well aware adults (Arjun-Purvi-Ovi) of what they were going to do and they did what they did.
So ARchu is expected to ruin her one daughter's life again (Ovi no matter what she is ARchu' daughter) for her other daughter's happiness (Purvi)..IF she does not then Archu loves Purvi less and Ovi more!!!

I will never understand when is this love less,love more between mother and her children comes.Today Archu was good in the fact initially she got pissed with Ovi and then she stated to Ovi in a decent way that she is too responsible for the mess and advised her as any normal mother will do.So that is considered wrong..Archu behaved how mostly all mothers behave ( of course we have leave that Purvi sacrifice thing Archu said to debate but at the end of the day she calmly advised Ovi in a decent way and in mind prayed to God for happiness of both her daughters)
The very first day (Which is not even over at PR land 😆) ARchu is expected to break Arjun - Ovi!!! How is any mother expected to do so..Man!!!And if she does Archu is a good mother then!!!!

Jai dear…if you look around the forum, it feels like divorce is like passing the ball around, from 1 sister with love to another😆😆….as a parent, it can't be that easy nor a parent should support that mentality…no parent will even dream of breaking one marriage of a daughter to get the other married to the same man….uff…can't even imagine the dynamics of the family if this happens…as it is the present situation is challenging enough by itself….

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kalapi i agree that Teju;s root is a luxirious lifestyle in Canada and expecting or forcing her to live in a chawl and ebrace poverty just to please the self righteous wife is very wrong .

Varsha i agree that the only part right about Archu's advice is giing it time and being a friend to him and gie it some time .
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Jai dear'if you look around the forum, it feels like divorce is like passing the ball around, from 1 sister with love to another😆😆'.as a parent, it can't be that easy nor a parent should support that mentality'no parent will even dream of breaking one marriage of a daughter to get the other married to the same man'.uff'can't even imagine the dynamics of the family if this happens'as it is the present situation is challenging enough by itself'.


Exactly Kalpi dear and Archu is judged based on this whether she is good mother or bad mother 😕why Should Archu take any daughters side or involve herself in the mess the children in full senses took.The three duo should be given the freedom and time to think on their decisions.
If ARchu comforts OVi (Ovi is her daughter too ) then she is wrong and if Archu would have kicked Ovi when she is already looking tensed then it would have been right!!!! Man..
She is a mother and why is she expected to do this and interfere when she should not!!!!
I so dont ever want Archu to interfere in this mess until when needed.The three adults need time to think on what they have done and they should be given their time.
Archu will see Purvi like Ovi and in one epi they did not show does not mean Archu is differentiating her daughters!!!
God have mercy !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaishankar


Varsha agreed that is too much of logic to expect from CV's isnt it when the show is gone beyond senseless..Ok being the emotional fool Archu is portrayed,my whole point is why should Archu be even involved in separating ARjun - Ovi ..How she is expected to side any daughters in this..
Its the We grp of ArVi fans and Ovi dislikers want the newly wed couple to split...Archu cant split them nor can she send Purvi away...
IF she does not side Purvi or visit her (its still morning in PR land 😆) next epi she might visit her,Archu is now bad mother to Purvi..IF she would have visited Purvi this epi itself - ARchu is a good mother 😕
Ideally at least now Archu should stay away from this mess and interfere when needed and allow the three senseful adults (Arjun-Purvi-Ovi) who were in very much sense on what they did think about their decisions first .My point is why should Archu being judged on being a good mother or bad mother on basis of which daughter she chooses.How will any mother expected to do that now.
In a way JS it is too late for Archu to stay out to some extent...She already took the stand when she supported Arjun-Purvi alliance at one time and keeps telling Ovi its Purvi's tyaag which has given her marriage bliss with Arjun...Which is not true at all...Purvi sacrificed for her Mommy dearest Archu...No one else..
We all know Archu has a soft corner for Purvi than anyone but now she is expected to tell Ovi to divorce Arjun ..These are the things the three should realize..They are grown up adults and its their life.Let them decide what they want to do.
Dont know why some expect the newly wed couple to divorce...Only way they can be divorced is Arjun backs out and wants it or Ovi realizes this is loveless marriage and she can't deal with that...
Ideally Archu and Manav should keep away from this and interfere when they are consulted and needed for it.
Manav really has not gotten involved at all...As a matter of fact he did try knocking some sense into Ovi prior to this deal and even yelled at her after the marriage..Threw Purvi's tyaag into Ovi's face also...Its Archana who got involved and have said very mean things to Ovi on the day of the marriage and with her tough love prior to the marriage in Purvi's support...
Archu seem to have kept a foot that way and I hope now Archu stays away from this mess and just comfort her daughters when they need her as any normal parent will do.
Archu should tell all 3 of them in front of Manav, DK, Sulo and Deshmukhs that when she got involved and supported Arjun-Purvi by giving that lame challange was very wrong...She should have kept her stand that Arjun was not good for either of her daughters to be involved with...She regrets doing what she did and now she wants to stay out of it as it has even created more problems..But that will not happen as Archana can do no wrong and Manav always gets her off the hook...

Hope someday Arjun realizes what he has done by playing with two sisters and 3 familes...May be someday in future when he is a father of a daughter than will realize it...😳 PR is all about lop sided storyline...
One day Purvi is the only imp thing to archana and the next day its Ovi...balancing act is required to maintain all relationships...Especially for a parent it is extremely important to be fair and neutral..We all know Purvi is THE important person to Archu in her life...after that it is Sachu...Ovi-Tej are all behind in line and dont even know where Soham fits in 😭
ADD: JS you are kind a barking up at a wrong tree with some of the points which really does not apply with most of us and I am no way speaking on anyone's behalf or a grp-like thinkers...Its the ArVi grp who wants them divorced and they have been complaining abt Archana or Ovi..Or leaving PUrvi behind and not checking up on her once...Patience is the virtue...Monday will be the next day and I am sure Archu would be calling Purvi and making sure she is alright..manav may be even @ K door to pick her up 😳
SOrry for using the term "barking up at a wrong tree" just to help you understand what I am trying to say 😳 No bad feeling dear OKIE 🤗
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: Jaishankar


Exactly Kalpi dear and Archu is judged based on this whether she is good mother or bad mother 😕why Should Archu take any daughters side or involve herself in the mess the children in full senses took.The three duo should be given the freedom and time to think on their decisions.
If ARchu comforts OVi (Ovi is her daughter too ) then she is wrong and if Archu would have kicked Ovi when she is already looking tensed then it would have been right!!!! Man..
She is a mother and why is she expected to do this and interfere when she should not!!!!
I so dont ever want Archu to interfere in this mess until when needed.The three adults need time to think on what they have done and they should be given their time.
Archu will see Purvi like Ovi and in one epi they did not show does not mean Archu is differentiating her daughters!!!
God have mercy !!!



Hi Jai!

I know I said I will refrain from Archu bashing in front of you, but I just could not help it😆 Again, I am not trying to point fingers at Archu but only saying what I think I would do as a mother.

MY problem is not with which daughter Archu chooses. I absolutely agree that Archu should steer clear about the situation and not give random advice to either of them. Yes, today what she told Ovi was sensible and correct. I know she cannot talk to OVi about her wrong decisions or anything because they don;t have that bonding yet and one day doesn't change 18 years worth of love and understanding between mother-daughter. But what I need Archu to do is comfort both. Today she got chance to comfort OVi, who obviously struck the deal and got maried in awkward circumstances, but in the end, she DID get what she precisely wanted. Of course, the night after her grand dream wedding, Ovi realized she wanted MORE and that means a fulfilling marriage which involves something called "LOVE" that she obviously forgot about when she struck the deal. But Purvi on the other hand, just lost everything. Yes, she did this to herself, but as a mother, my heart would bleed for my child if no matter how self-inflicted the pain was, he would have to go through such a point in life that simply meant throwing away your biggest happiness. I would actually not got sleep at night to be honest. No matter my husband coming back to me 18 years after, I know that my life is goin to be bliss here on, everything is sorted and I am with my family, but my daughter just lost her family and that would be my main concern.

So yes I am still waiting for the day to end in PR to make my conclusions on Archu;s motherly capabilities :PP 😛 but as a bystander I feel the FIRST thing in the morning would have been to check on both daughters. Again, not bashing your marathi mulgi, just saying what I would have technically done in her place. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pari87



Hi Jai!

I know I said I will refrain from Archu bashing in front of you, but I just could not help it😆 Again, I am not trying to point fingers at Archu but only saying what I think I would do as a mother.

MY problem is not with which daughter Archu chooses. I absolutely agree that Archu should steer clear about the situation and not give random advice to either of them. Yes, today what she told Ovi was sensible and correct. I know she cannot talk to OVi about her wrong decisions or anything because they don;t have that bonding yet and one day doesn't change 18 years worth of love and understanding between mother-daughter. But what I need Archu to do is comfort both. Today she got chance to comfort OVi, who obviously struck the deal and got maried in awkward circumstances, but in the end, she DID get what she precisely wanted. Of course, the night after her grand dream wedding, Ovi realized she wanted MORE and that means a fulfilling marriage which involves something called "LOVE" that she obviously forgot about when she struck the deal. But Purvi on the other hand, just lost everything. Yes, she did this to herself, but as a mother, my heart would bleed for my child if no matter how self-inflicted the pain was, he would have to go through such a point in life that simply meant throwing away your biggest happiness. I would actually not got sleep at night to be honest. No matter my husband coming back to me 18 years after, I know that my life is goin to be bliss here on, everything is sorted and I am with my family, but my daughter just lost her family and that would be my main concern.

So yes I am still waiting for the day to end in PR to make my conclusions on Archu;s motherly capabilities :PP 😛 but as a bystander I feel the FIRST thing in the morning would have been to check on both daughters. Again, not bashing your marathi mulgi, just saying what I would have technically done in her place. 😊


Pooja re I tell u Archu has lot of flaws and she is no saint..She is plainly emotional fool with not much sense...but a good person but I would not like a mother judged on whether she visited one or not.The day is not yet over in PR land 😆 so you might next see her visiting Purvi.
My whole point is Archu need not be judged whether she is a good mother or bad on this criteria.
She is trying to be there for both her daughters.She wants to be there for both her daughters and coming epis might show it .
But her love for Purvi is no way going down in a day..A mother's love is above all that and just coz she is not visiting (not even a day has passed yet in PR land 😆) does not mean she does not care.
In her mind Purvi's sacrifice /Purvi is always running.
She will meet her in coming epi's and still a day would have been passed in PR land 😆
So one epi at a time is what one need to view it I guess...😆
And oh yeah my marathi mulgi is the best 😆.Thanks for the post dear 😆😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaishankar

Jai…this situation could have happened even if Arjun/Purvi married and Ovi felt the pangs of separation from her love…that is why Varsha is right that to begin with Archana shouldn't have supported anyone and said that so, that she doesn't support anyone and it is their decision how they want to proceed. Ideally, both girls should have moved away from Arjun, there are lot of fish in the pond…..

Now that the mess is already done the least Archana could do is;

Get Arjun/Ovi to go visit another country so that their attention is diverted and they are removed from the environment.

Make, Purvi move on, by getting her into a job and then fixing her marriage preferable outside mumbai…I did a post on similsr lines on this thread...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jai

Archu is not judged for being away from a grown up daughter and enjoying marital bliss for one day after being away from her marraige for 18 years .

I thnink the judgement is made after observing the serial in totality ...uptill now she has never made her children her priority and only her decisions ...be it of mahaanta or whatever... are her priority .

Infact if you notice ...even candid opinions like Varsha or hard core critics like me have given her credit where it is due ...her advice to Ovi that give it some time and that sending Purvi away is out of the question was deemed as right by us .

I don't agree that the reason given for not sending Purvi away is right though . The reason should be ...as Kalapi says ...she is young , unmarried and very much my responsibility . Not the fact that she did a tyaag for Ovi's happiness and that Ovi had better realize it . That is a distortion of facts . Puri made this decision for her mother not for Ovi . And it was no tyaag it was simply a decision .

These kind of talks will eventually create a rift again between Archana and Ovi .

I don't and won't ever believe that she will llove her children more than Purvi . She will always love Purvi more because she is the waaris or heir of her so called sanskaars .

It is not about the happiness of one day but facts that CVs show while catering to a younger viewership . They have not shown Archana even phoning Purvi or even Manav asking her , astounded , after the grihapravesh ...where is Purvi ? Didn't you bring her along ?

They have not shown ARMAN worried sick about their daughter Ovi and talking to DK . Infact they haVe shown zero interaction with DK after the surprise wedding . Manav went to talk about the kanyadaan but not about sending Ovi and Arjun away for some days .

The CVs hae focussed on the romance aspect and not at all on matters of immediate concern or responsibility .

Had they shown ARMAN discussing these matters in the bedroom or while sipping tea and romance via a hug or a glance at the end of it both goals would have achieved but CVs have quite forgotten that after becoming parents adults change and express companionship as a team while sorting out the messes children make ...it never ends actually . Love is in that team effort .

They even need to talk as a team to Arjun .















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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Jai


Archu is not judged for being away from a grown up daughter and enjoying marital bliss for one day after being away from her marraige for 18 years .

I thnink the judgement is made after observing the serial in totality ...uptill now she has never made her children her priority and only her decisions ...be it of mahaanta or whatever... are her priority .

Infact if you notice ...even candid opinions like Varsha or hard core critics like me have given her credit where it is due ...her advice to Ovi that give it some time and that sending Purvi away is out of the question was deemed as right by us .

I don't agree that the reason given for not sending Purvi away is right though . The reason should be ...as Kalapi says ...she is young , unmarried and very much my responsibility . Not the fact that she did a tyaag for Ovi's happiness and that Ovi had better realize it . That is a distortion of facts . Puri made this decision for her mother not for Ovi . And it was no tyaag it was simply a decision .

Kool...I didn't realize she said that...had a faulty connection when I watched online...yes, that is absolutely not the right thing say anymore under the circumstance...it will only create more rifts between all the people concern. All of these people need to look forward and make the best of a bad sitution...


These kind of talks will eventually create a rift again between Archana and Ovi .

I don't and won't ever believe that she will llove her children more than Purvi . She will always love Purvi more because she is the waaris or heir of her so called sanskaars .

It is not about the happiness of one day but facts that CVs show while catering to a younger viewership . They have not shown Archana even phoning Purvi or even Manav asking her , astounded , after the grihapravesh ...where is Purvi ? Didn't you bring her along ?

Yes, in all the family bliss and hugging, none of them talked about the issues at hand. Damo never showed concern and asked how Purvi was doing and here she is...he was jumping with joy attending her marriage making tall claims of being a granddad...where is the concern when it is needed...

Same thing with Manav, as you said below...They haven't acted as parents yet and orreaching out to DK as Samdaan and moving forward with the relationship...Manav is just enjoying himself as a newly married😳, that is all.
Sulo, even didn't help matters. Instaed of encouraging Purvi by doing different things with her and diverting her mind...she prevented her for looking for job...when a job will create a new change in her life and divert her from her present depression...
The adult of this show are weird and are more concern with their immediate need instead of focusing long term...yesterday, happy family picture was too forced I felt...they were showing nothing has happened, when both their daughters re going through the toughest of times...

They have not shown ARMAN worried sick about their daughter Ovi and talking to DK . Infact they haVe shown zero interaction with DK after the surprise wedding . Manav went to talk about the kanyadaan but not about sending Ovi and Arjun away for some days .

The CVs hae focussed on the romance aspect and not at all on matters of immediate concern or responsibility .

Had they shown ARMAN discussing these matters in the bedroom or while sipping tea and romance via a hug or a glance at the end of it both goals would have achieved but CVs have quite forgotten that after becoming parents adults change and express companionship as a team while sorting out the messes children make ...it never ends actually . Love is in that team effort .

They even need to talk as a team to Arjun .















Kool...you spoke the it all so well...absolutelt agree with you...😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Infact Kalapi all the adults are behaving in a very immature fashion...ARMAN and as u said even Damo whose cup of joy is overfull as he can now righteously taunt Savita . He as an elder should foresee even things ARMAN cannot foresee... .such is the life experience at that age . But he is irresponsible as hell and takes pleasure in nasty childish pranks .

And as u say Manav is only happy that he got back his wife .


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