From Ovi to you..How Low can I go? - Page 5

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Kools, I do agree on quite a bit of what you said about parents having only so much control on what the kids do. This holds true if the parents tried to drill some sense into the child, and if she/he does not agree, they may not be able to do anything. But, that does not hold true in this case.

In the case of Ovi, I have not seen anything from the parents, telling her what she did was absolutely wrong. Other than mild reprimands from Manav and Archana, which did not even touch her, they just let her go the merry way. Manav is as controlled by Ovi, as he is by his mother. He should be the one who should have made her realize what she did. It may or may not have affected what has already happened. He just seems so helpless when she goes off into her "poor me" phase. he just looks on and keeps saying "yeh galath hai beta.." and all she has to say is "apko pathaa hai naa baba mujhe kitna arjun chaahiye" and he let her do what she wants. What kind of parenting is that? there is no tough love anywhere? no wonder, she has turned out the way she is.. he is a weak dad, just as he is/was a weak husband even though he is a gem of a man.

In this regard, we cannot expect much from Archana.There was no closeness between them back then, I mean at the time of this wedding, so she could not have influenced her in anyway. And now, Archana does not want to rock her boat of happiness too much either for her bond with her daughters is still not strong enough.

As far as Purvi is concerned, there was never a doubt about her self-respect. The only time she did wrong, was give Arjun away, but she did NOT do it for herself, she did it for her mother. We may not agree to why and how it was done, I definitely dont, but there is a big difference there between her and Ovi.

There are different kinds of love involved in this mess, Obsessive, deewaanapan, and love infused with gratitude.. No guesses needed on whose is what.😊

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kool, would love to ignore you.😆 See @ red. But will ask your dinosaur's thoughts to dwell on this, do you really honestly think Ovi was right in what she did? Please give no thought to the fact that she is an ARMAN kid but objectively speaking if your child did this, would you be okay? I would not, even if the other girl involved was not my daughter, I would be flabbergasted by my daughter (Ovi's)'s atrocious, selfish behavior and based on that alone would tell her to free the man. My response to Kalapi about making the marriage work would fly out the window, that response was based on only if she had no hand in the treachery. I am talking in a real life scenario if it were in fact my own daughter.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I believe...

Love is independent of sex, relation ,or age just as God or the supreme energy is independent of sex , attributes or a body .

In this sense ...love is too magnificent an emotion to be be controlled by the physical form or relation to a person . One can love a mother , father , brother , lover , God or anyone as the flow is natural . Since love has nothing to do with physical form but is a state of mind ...it cannot be said that the love for a woman is different from the love for a man .

Love is a very sattvic emotion .

When one loves one feels like sacrificing for the one you love . One does not sacrifice the loved one .

One wants to see the one you love happy and cannot bear unhappiness on his or her face .

I saw these aspects in Arjun's love for Purvi . I did not see any of these aspects in Purvi's love for Arjun .

Thats true... we saw this from Arjun every step... we hardly saw it from Purvi (but it was there)... but ... we NEVER saw it from Ovi. Soo... whats to say about that... Ovi cannot be the one for Arjun either, for she does not understand Arjun and what he feels or needs. She does put him above everyone EXCEPT herself... and for that... she cannot see beyond herself right now to see Arjun, his pain and his loneliness. She did not think of HIM either... she only thought of HER.

I saw these aspects in her love for her mother . She could not bear her unhappiness . She sacrificed Arjun for her ...her personal happiness for her .

She used a man who was in love with her to secure happiness for her mother .

She constantly thought of her future even at the peak of her happiness .

This is love . Purvi loved the woman who adopted her deeply with a profound sense of gratitude .

Who is deluded that its a 'love story' ?😆😆 Arjun Purvi or Ovi ? Perception for you .

Purvi's capacity for 'doing for a man' was amply demonstrated . I am afraid she will never be truly able to give her 100% to any man but she will give her all to her mother just the way Archana lived only asSulochana's beti .

For me the thought counts too ...very much infact . Touching a man directly only does not amount to an extra marital affair. Caressing him or embracing him mentally is immoral in my opinion . I can understand the pain of breaking up ...i cannot understand the continuance of the love mentally with such caresses , kisses and embraces . Weep all you want for breaking up but don't even think of him that way once he is married . It is nothing but your moral degradation ...showly but surely .

I said this once before... and I will repeat it here - If Ovi's obsession and "love" for Arjun is difficult for her to get over in the last 2/3 months after the split, and her behaviour is pardonable and given "time" for acceptance. Then why isnt the same benefit given to Arjun and Purvi?... it has only been 2 days maximum since the wedding... not 2 months. At the end of the day love is love, if that love lasted for 5 years or 5 months, it is still love. As they say - quality not quantity! So... I cannot understand how Purvi can just press OFF on her control and love and not LOOK at Arjun that way. I do not see it as "Moral degradation" ... I see it as expressing that love, pain and remorse you feel. She is NOT actually running after Arjun. If u can call that moral degradation of the person in question, the other party - Ovi - who went out of her way to find Arjun, offer money to Purvi, take a deal agreement to her mother and then to Purvi, DO NOT listen to her father or twin sister, ignores everyone and only acts for herself... then that is moral degradation... SURELY - NOT Slowly.

But then my thoughts are a dinosaur's thoughts as i said in my thread . One really should not give them a second thought nowdays . I cannot think of anyway but this way ...such is my mental make up . Ignore me guys ,😆😆

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

ok dear , i will . Good night ladies . Btw iwatched jdj today only to watch Prince Arjun's dance and i must say he dances very well .

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I never said she is right . I always said that personally i feel that no man deserves this importance .

But I see this as a story [ always have ] and I also see how others have behaved .

While you guys find it acceptable or understandable I do not . In fact absolutely not . They crossed bounds long back ...even the elders like Sulochana or Archana and yes even Purvi or Arjun who gave a 3 month old crush the name of eternal love . Each character has his or her viewpoint and I object to the kid's feelings being cited as 'obsession'when I have been watching PR since 3 yrs and i have seen many obsession examples ...all given by the lead pair .😆😆

If Ovi were my daughter ...I would tell her frankly no man is worth it . If she persisted I would leave her to her fate as life has taught me that youth does not listen and experience is the best teacher .

I would have never accepted a damad both my daughters loved . Accepting him means hurting either of my daughters and both are my kids . As an elder I would never have bought the eternal love story simply because i don;t believe in the eternal aspect of love that these youngsters see . I believe that the 'love' they feel is eternal is actually very hormonal , transitory and dies out as quickly as it got inflamed .[ No offense dears , Just stating my opinion.]

I have maintained since the beginning that Archana should have stayed out after giving a strict warning . Now its too late .

About Purvi having the right to caress Arjun's photo even after he is married bcoz a few rites of marraige may have made him Ovi's husband but in reality he belongs only and only to Purvi ...😆😆

Sorry dear but lets agree to disagree on this . Those few rites of marraige are very important to this dinosaur dear . Marraige happens before God for a reason . I firmly belive that one has to honour it . Theres no question of judging Purvi's 'love' as 'lust . Archana stood outside Manav's canteen with a dibba of sheera after her divorce to him when he was engaged toShravani till tongues started wagging although i have no doubt her heart was full of innocent spiritual love .

Here he is married . Cry at the break up but don't even touch him mentally is what i would advocate . Granted it is not lust ...still don;t touch him now ...for the bounds have to be observed . He is your sister's husband now ..with your own wish . Sighing over him in such a way does not behove you . These are puritanical thoughts but thats the way it is for me . One can use any amount of fancy words to justify this breaking of bounds but sorry i don't approve of it .You should have thought of it before you gave him up like a chocolate . [ here i mean Purvi.]

Neither do i believe in the eternity of love as young people comprehend it , neither do i believe that Arjun only and only belongs to Purvi , neither do i believe that marraige is a play that can be restarted iff you do not like it .

I only see facts and i see that Arjun Ovi are married now and what Kalapi says makes sense to me ...now what ?