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I am too late to IF today.
Looking at the number of pages this thread has got, I am sure a lot of people might have already said a lot of things.
Anyway, here is mine and only on Ovi:
I still see 1 positivity in this and that is - Ovi still hasn't left her selfishness.
I never accepted her baseless demands, reasoning and her behavior before and today I disliked her even more, and for me this is for keeps.
She is the heights of selfishness and selfcenteredness.
I don't care how much she cries or how much she tries to make her marriage work. I will always believe this marriage is based on deceit and I will never accept it.
And the positivity for me is - That she remain this selfish and undeserving always!
So, what if Purvi accepted her deal, requested Arjun and he accepted, not one single person has told Ovi that she was wrong, bcos this entire thing happened only because Ovi wanted it.
OK if Ovi wants Purvi to go away why cant she herself take her hubby and go away?I mean why tell Archana to ask Purvi to go away when Ovi can go back to Canada with Arjun.I know they didnt plan on staying in India so why doesnt she book tickets since she is so insecure and flight the hell away from Purvi.She knew rite from the marriage that Arjun loves Purvi.What did she think that her model looks will capture his heart?One doesnt fall in love with loooks alone but that person's character.Ovi maybe beautiful in her world but her character has been ugggly.I mean talk about a self centered and conniving girl.She is truly Savita's granddaughter.She can talk sweet and butter to Archana and everyone else but that doesnt change the fact that she is disrespectful and only care for her own feelings with blatant disregard for others.Everyone may forget her deeds caz now she acts like Miss Goody two shoes but that doesnt change her real face and character.Ovi is such a hypocrite and i really hope she suffers in this loveless marriage.She made her bed so she will lay in it.
Lovely post and amazing analysis. I must say that the posts and character analysis in this forum is the only reason I know what is happening in PR of late.
Coming to the whole Ovi wanting to send Purvi away scene - why does Ovi think that sending Purvi physically away is the solution. It's not that Arjunand Purvi have been secretly meeting each other, they are not colleagues either yet so what will Ovi achieve if Purvi is not around?Purvi reigns in Arjun's heart and mind - you can't erase all that just by the lack of physical proximity. The basic problem with Ovi is that she doesn't (yet) understand what it means to love someone and that love is more the longing of one heart for the other. Isn't that exactly what Archana-Manav's relationship is portrayed as?
Shyamala excellent,balanced,practical post👏⭐️👍🏼Originally posted by: sashashyam
Jyothi my dear,
I should not be doing this, but it bothers me to see you fret yourself to flinders like this (and I can always tell myself I will make up for this to my poor wrist by posting nothing at all over the weekend!)
First of all, I loved your post, which is so full of suppressed rage and frustration that it would make anyone reading it feel at one with you. But I am not 60+ for nothing. So let us take a cooler look at things, and see where we get.
Let us forget about Ovi for now, for it hardly matters what she is like, or how she behaves or pretends - none of that is going to change anything. Let us just take Archana's response to Ovi today, and your critique of that @red, especially the part in bold.
You are not being fair to Archana. She did not ask Purvi to do this idiotic thing, or Arjun to go along with it in an even stupider manner. She was aghast when she heard of it, and she slapped Purvi and berated her and cried all over her about it.
But now it is a fait accompli. Be sure of one thing - no matter how much she loves Purvi, Archana would NEVER think of Arjun divorcing Ovi and marrying Purvi, nor would she condone it. Neither would DK. I can understand this stand perfectly. A marriage is not a game of musical chairs, and the bond of marriage is not a Kleenex tissue, to be thrown away at one's pleasure. Neither Arjun nor Purvi was a minor, nor was he forced into this marriage at gunpoint, while as for her, she engineered it, with NO concern for his sufferings, for reasons of her own. Both of them have made their respective beds and they now have to lie in them quietly, till (or if) the CVs see fit to bring them together again through some more contortions.
Now, proceeding from this, what else would (or should) Archana want now except that the situation should settle down all round ?
She would naturally want Purvi -who after all ditched Arjun out of her own free will - to move on in her life, and stop mooning about him. If Purvi did not want to be miserable (and to make us miserable as well) she should have thought of that before dumping Arjun and forcing him to marry Ovi. Now it is too late to change anything as far as Purvi and Arjun are concerned.
If you think that Archana should prove her love for Purvi by praying for the collapse of the Arjun-Ovi marriage, then I am sorry but I do not agree with you at all, and neither would most people my age. What is the point of all three of them being miserable for keeps? And how would Arjun and Ovi being stuck in a hostile marriage help our sanskaari Purvi? In fact she should feel vindicated and morally uplifted if they do settle down eventually!
So, from Archana's point of view - which is that of a mother who loves both her daughters, one of whom has, out of sheer folly, gifted away her lover to the other - the best way forward now would be for Purvi to move on in her life, and for Arjun to become reconciled to his marriage with Ovi. which is a given that cannot be wished away now. What she advises Ovi to do fits into this framework. So there is no justification for blaming her on this count at least.
In general, Jyothi, there is no point in our fretting because things in PR are not going our way. I have said before, and I repeat - there is nothing good to be expected for the present, and even if the Arjun-Purvi duo do get married eventually, it will be a washout for me at least. The endless flashbacks of the Arjun-Purvi scenes are irritating and soulless for me now; all their meaning has been leached out.
My advice to you,for what it is worth, would be to watch PR if you like, but not to react to the goings on, and above all not to work yourself up in this fashion. I hope your BP is on the low side, but please try and avoid such heart-burning.
My wrist is protesting loudly, so I must stop now. See what all I do for your sake!😉
Shyamala
Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
Mandy, superb post, I agree on all points.
Firstly about Archana, as a mother I can understand her reluctance in ruining one daughter's marriage to restore her other daughter's right to that happiness. It is like when 2 of your children want the same toy and fight over it, after one hands her doll to the other, you can chastise the other for being mean, for wanting what did not belong to her, but the fight is over as one child willingly if sorrowfully gave the toy away. If it were a toy, it would behoove the mother to take it away from both or to give it back to the first. Unfortunately, the toy here is a living being and more unfortunately we have all the sanctimonious rites tied to giving the toy away (do rites make a marriage? one can rightly wonder). Her motherly hands are effectively tied, but and this is a big but, in my opinion, Archana needed to have reprimanded Ovi for doing the wrong thing followed later by the advice she did give Ovi. Glossing over what Ovi did smacks of wearing an eye-patch when it is not needed or as Jyo puts it Archana is afraid to rock her boat of new found happiness. She is human and the child (Ovi), evil or not, has just now turned accepting of her.
You have said it all where Arjun, Purvi and Ovi are concerned. Idiots 3 they are, Vishnu will be like a breath of fresh air when he arrives next week, unsullied by love/infatuation/obsession call it what you may. That spring in his step, that twinkle in his eye should suffice to blow away the blues that envelop the D household.
Jyothi, I do not want Purvi to pursue Arjun, he will scoff at her and make her feel humiliated for giving him away. Or do you want her to pine for him openly as balm to his wounded ego? If she does that, she will be looked upon as a home wrecker, she will not be able to face her sanskari Aai or baba. Arjun needs to set things straight with Ovi first, talk to her, make her understand that he is not for her, no more talk of how long will this take, and then once his marriage is behind him then you can want/expect Purvi to pursue him when he is single again. Yes, I understand and bemoan with you that Purvi forced him into this marriage but he is an able bodied adult, he could have said no and not been led like a bhakra to slaughter. As Shyamala said elsewhere, they made their beds and have to lie on it. Even if one of them chooses not to, they have to singly unweave the tangled mess they have created together.
As for Purvi, less said about her the better. She is turning out to have zero brains between her ears. If Ovi comes a begging to her (which she will, never fear), Purvi will agree to marry Rane or whoever is ready to have her. Of course, Ovi will be doing this just to "save" her marriage, justification enough for who would not want to save her ill gotten gains? Purvi will not hesitate to throw her life away yet again to keep her mother's life wrinkle free. It won't be Archana's fault as it will be Purvi's decision and Purvi is an adult. Parents should not interfere in the lives of their children, children learn from their own mistakes (hint, hint, only Savi dear has that license to meddle in her son's life), so idiotic Purvi should keep jumping into the well repeatedly, she has not learnt the lesson, once bitten, twice shy. She will marry Rane or the dhobi on the street to get out of Ovi's way and happily lead a middle class sanskari life with sanskari children with a sanskari man in a sanskari middle class chawl. Her sanskari middle class mom turned millionaire wife/mom will pat her and bless her absent-mindedly but proudly and quickly return to her spoilt non-sanskari OvAr grand kids. Serve Purvi right for being an orphan, for having been adopted, for carrying a mammoth chip on her shoulder.
Ultimately, all will be well with the D kids, biological and adopted, all of them would have gotten what they wanted - Aai's happiness, baba's acceptance, Ken's love, aaji's sukhi. "aai's in sasural, all is well with the world (apologies to Browning).
Just my POV 😆