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Posted: 5 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

This is an amazing post. Not just you my dear, even I'm watching Sunday's episode on repeat & still can't get enough of it. So many hints were scattered throughout the episode. I'm convinced that Veeranshu clearly remembers his past, his dialogues were equivocal -

His fight with Shakura was highly symbolic especially the part when he kills him with a Trishul - Veeranshu definitely has a strong connection with Shivji for sure - and there's no way in hell that he still doesn't doubt Bani's identity - he kills an ichchadhari cheel, his wife jumps out of a window of a floating house & lands up at the same spot where he was trapped inside a cage, and then Shakura follows her to that place - yeh sab kahin se bhi normal human beings ke bas ki baat nahi hai.

Exactly, jitni baar dekho, kuch na kuch mil hi jata hai symbolic likhne layak.😆

Woh to hai, Veeranshu is Bholenath's special bachcha. Isliye iske palle Bani ko baandh diya. Veer, bahut kuch hai, but bewaqoof nahi. Woh pati Bani ka zarur hai, lekin dimaag usse zyaada to chala hi leta hai. Isko pakka sab pata hai. Bas kuch to khurafat chal raha hai uske dimaag me, isiliye he is silent.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: libran90

Okay, so I am the most useless person in the world, so I was rewatching the Sunday night episode again, and this time the focus was on Veeranshu vs Shakura fight. So for starters, we never received an explanation as to why Shakura took Aakesh's face. But I came up with an observation, hope you find it as interesting as I found it when I thought of it while watching.

So, when Veer was fighting Shakura, it gave me the impression of Veeranshu fighting his former self Aakesh. Of course, Veer is Aakesh, but Aakesh if we remember, as much as we admired him for the obsession, he was also dark, because he was literally forcing Naageshwari to be with him. During their first meeting, Aakesh literally tried to drag away Naageshwari and Hriday intervened. And then in the temple too, he was trying to force Naageshwari to come with him, but Naageshwari did not.

During this fight between Veer and Shakura, it was a fight between Veer's former dark side and Veer's present grey side. In Aakesh, the darkness was enhanced, but the feelings for Naageshwari were pure. In Veer, that darkness is softer, and feelings for Bani are enhanced. As always I say Veer is an upgraded Aakesh. But during this fight, Veer was fighting his own dark self in Shakura who wanted to possess Bani, like some object. Shakura too was dragging Bani to marriage, which Aakesh did with Naageshwari, dragging her with him. But Veer has light in him, his light which appeared weak, fought the strength of the dark Shakura, and in the end, light won, Veer won. And that was symbolized when Veer used the Trishul to stab Shakura. It was symbolic that Veeranshu killed his former dark side, that side to Aakesh that saw Naageshwari as an object, not a person. And now we have only Veeranshu who has light, who only loves Bani, and has no darkness or malintent.

Veer's love conquered the darkness he had, and thus Veeranshu rectified his former life's mistake and moved on from it. Veeranshu surely remembers his past, and now he has overcome an indiscretion he made as Aakesh, after remembering his previous life. Henceforth, Veeranshu will only win, because he has understood what he needs to do to make things right. This Veeranshu Singhania is definitely different.

Another thing I noticed is Shakura telling Veer, "Kamaal hai, mujhko dekh kar tu chauka nahi". I mean why will Veer be shocked? He is a cheel himself, so he should not be shocked looking at Shakura. Or Shakura had another meaning to that statement, or I am thinking too much. What do you guys feel?

Wow! What an amazing analysis! 👏 Veeranshu is not as dark as Aakesh. He is a grey shaded hero. I like Aakesh very much. But he definitely behaved like a negative character in Satya Yug and there is no doubt about it. I think I like him because of his darkness/animalistic traits 😆 and Dheeraj's acting.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Shirsha90

Wow! What an amazing analysis! 👏 I like Aakesh very much. But he definitely behaved like a negative character in Satya Yug and there is no doubt about it. I think I like him because of his darkness/animalistic traits 😆 and Dheeraj's acting.

Aakesh's darkness was more pronounced than Veeranshu. Veeranshu has an inner softness that comes out only for Bani. I haven't seen him do that for his family also. Aakesh was raw and Veeranshu is polished. He was dark who just wanted to pick up Naageshwari like some object and place it in his palace, but his feelings for her were genuine and he wanted to give her the dignity of his Queen. He wanted to die for her. That isn't lust, but love. But Naageshwari was Adi Naagin, you cannot just pick her up like some toy right. What happened between Veeranshu and Shakura was Veeranshu suppressing, winning, and overcoming the darkness of Aakesh who had come as Shakura. And that is symbolized by the Trishul, which conquers all darkness. DD was definitely good as Aakesh and Shakura.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: libran90

Aakesh's darkness was more pronounced than Veeranshu. Veeranshu has an inner softness that comes out only for Bani. I haven't seen him do that for his family also. Aakesh was raw and Veeranshu is polished. He was dark who just wanted to pick up Naageshwari like some object and place it in his palace, but his feelings for her were genuine and he wanted to give her the dignity of his Queen. He wanted to die for her. That isn't lust, but love. But Naageshwari was Adi Naagin, you cannot just pick her up like some toy right. What happened between Veeranshu and Shakura was Veeranshu suppressing, winning, and overcoming the darkness of Aakesh who had come as Shakura. And that is symbolized by the Trishul, which conquers all darkness. DD was definitely good as Aakesh and Shakura.

Aakesh's darkness was definitely more pronounced than Veer. That is the reason, I edited my previous comment and added ''Veeranshu is not as dark as Aakesh. He is a grey shaded hero.'' Yes, Aakesh was raw and I like his rawness. 😆 I think Veer is more polished because he lives in a society of human beings. But in Satya Yug, eagles used to live in a different society which was created by them and they had no relationships or connection with any human.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Aakesh's darkness was more pronounced than Veeranshu. Veeranshu has an inner softness that comes out only for Bani. I haven't seen him do that for his family also. Aakesh was raw and Veeranshu is polished. He was dark who just wanted to pick up Naageshwari like some object and place it in his palace, but his feelings for her were genuine and he wanted to give her the dignity of his Queen. He wanted to die for her. That isn't lust, but love. But Naageshwari was Adi Naagin, you cannot just pick her up like some toy right. What happened between Veeranshu and Shakura was Veeranshu suppressing, winning, and overcoming the darkness of Aakesh who had come as Shakura. And that is symbolized by the Trishul, which conquers all darkness. DD was definitely good as Aakesh and Shakura.

Sakaura is like that too, Sakaura was brought to kill Bani, but he ended up falling and became as obsessed lover of Bani. Similar Akesh main goal was to steal Nagmani he was shown as a villain and very dark, but he ends up falling in love with Naageshwari. The thing also is Naageshwari is very aggressive and ruthless so her personality match with Akesh. Even after knowing well Naageshwari is a Naagin he wanted to marry her and make her his queen, Sakaura also wanted to make Bani his Queen and died with that same time psycho lover obsession for her. Akesh and Sakaura are different but has alot of similarities in them.


Veer was introduced more like the typical jerk type of guy but he wasn't evil like Akesh. He was nasty with Noor so he wasn't a good guy then...He only change after meeting Bani.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Shirsha90

Aakesh's darkness was definitely more pronounced than Veer. That is the reason, I edited my previous comment and added ''Veeranshu is not as dark as Aakesh. He is a grey shaded hero.'' Yes, Aakesh was raw and I like his rawness. 😆 I think Veer is more polished because he lives in a society of human beings. But in Satya Yug, eagles used to live in a different society which was created by them and they had no relationships or connection with any human.

Yes, I agree, waqt aur yug ka farq hai. Aakesh and Veeranshu ke beech 10,000 saal ka farq hai. So both will be very different. But I wonder, how does Veeranshu gets this inner softness from? His mother? His father?? I mean right now, I am in two minds as to who is the real villain parent in Veeranshu's life

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AutumnColors

Sakaura is like that too, Sakaura was brought to kill Bani, but he ended up falling and became as obsessed lover of Bani. Similar Akesh main goal was to steal Nagmani he was shown as a villain and very dark, but he ends up falling in love with Naageshwari. The thing also is Naageshwari is very aggressive and ruthless so her personality match with Akesh. Even after knowing well Naageshwari is a Naagin he wanted to marry her and make her his queen, Sakaura also wanted to make Bani his Queen and died with that same time psycho lover obsession for her. Akesh and Sakaura are different but has alot of similarities in them.

That's exactly what I am trying to say. If you see this friction was a deja vu experience for Veeranshu and Bani. It is a reinterpretation of the Hriday, Naageshwari, and Aakesh scene right in the initial episodes. Bani because this is exactly what transpired between Naageshwari, Hriday, and Aakesh. Veeranshu because Bholenath showed him a mirror of his own past deeds to him. What he did as Aakesh to Naageshwari, is what exactly Shakura was doing to Bani. That time Naageshwari was betrothed to Hriday. Here Bani is already married to Veeranshu. What Aakesh did back then was completely wrong, be it stealing Naagmani or forcefully trying to take Naageshwari. Veeranshu came back with memories of his past and this was his test, whether he had learned from his past mistakes. Aur uske saath wahi incident dauhraya jaata hai, uske saamne ussi ka chehra ek naye naam ke saath aata hai, uski biwi ko uske saamne uthake le jaane ki koshish karta hai, and Veeranshu reverses that misdeed by Aakesh. He rectified his error. He has learned and moved on. Veeranshu passed his test. And hence the Trishul came in handy to kill his darkness, his past, his misdeed. Veeranshu is now free from his past life karma.

Veer was introduced more like the typical jerk type of guy but he wasn't evil like Akesh. He was nasty with Noor so he wasn't a good guy then...He only change after meeting Bani.

I agree. Veeranshu was an insensitive jerk. But Veeranshu is sensitive only towards Bani. This Shakura incident has loosened Naageshwari's grip on Bani and freed Veeranshu of his past life karma.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: libran90

Okay, so I am the most useless person in the world, so I was rewatching the Sunday night episode again, and this time the focus was on Veeranshu vs Shakura fight. So for starters, we never received an explanation as to why Shakura took Aakesh's face. But I came up with an observation, hope you find it as interesting as I found it when I thought of it while watching.

So, when Veer was fighting Shakura, it gave me the impression of Veeranshu fighting his former self Aakesh. Of course, Veer is Aakesh, but Aakesh if we remember, as much as we admired him for the obsession, he was also dark, because he was literally forcing Naageshwari to be with him. During their first meeting, Aakesh literally tried to drag away Naageshwari and Hriday intervened. And then in the temple too, he was trying to force Naageshwari to come with him, but Naageshwari did not.

During this fight between Veer and Shakura, it was a fight between Veer's former dark side and Veer's present grey side. In Aakesh, the darkness was enhanced, but the feelings for Naageshwari were pure. In Veer, that darkness is softer, and feelings for Bani are enhanced. As always I say Veer is an upgraded Aakesh. But during this fight, Veer was fighting his own dark self in Shakura who wanted to possess Bani, like some object. Shakura too was dragging Bani to marriage, which Aakesh did with Naageshwari, dragging her with him. But Veer has light in him, his light which appeared weak, fought the strength of the dark Shakura, and in the end, light won, Veer won. And that was symbolized when Veer used the Trishul to stab Shakura. It was symbolic that Veeranshu killed his former dark side, that side to Aakesh that saw Naageshwari as an object, not a person. And now we have only Veeranshu who has light, who only loves Bani, and has no darkness or malintent.

Veer's love conquered the darkness he had, and thus Veeranshu rectified his former life's mistake and moved on from it. Veeranshu surely remembers his past, and now he has overcome an indiscretion he made as Aakesh, after remembering his previous life. Henceforth, Veeranshu will only win, because he has understood what he needs to do to make things right. This Veeranshu Singhania is definitely different.

Another thing I noticed is Shakura telling Veer, "Kamaal hai, mujhko dekh kar tu chauka nahi". I mean why will Veer be shocked? He is a cheel himself, so he should not be shocked looking at Shakura. Or Shakura had another meaning to that statement, or I am thinking too much. What do you guys feel?

My dear Behna u should have posted it as a separate post 🤗

Well written.. now Veer is very clear about the feelings which he has for Bani.he is clear in his mission... yes..he remembers his past.. 👍🏼 it's high time..

Aft Teer death and wedding his feelings for Bani was confused.. he himself was not clear how he feels for Bani.. Then aft JAY revelation as Naag ..he was kinda insecured.. and when he got to know Bani is not the REAL killer... he married her WITH magalsutra and all...

Corect me if am worng... till these incidents I don't remember Veer mentioning about love to Bani..


But aft shakura he is very calm and composed...he is not behaving like deewana...now he is matured husband.... now He is more open regarding his feelings to Bani...

Yes..his obsession took back step...( open end for shakura?)

Let's see 🤞🤞

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Posted: 5 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: libran90

Yes, I agree, waqt aur yug ka farq hai. Aakesh and Veeranshu ke beech 10,000 saal ka farq hai. So both will be very different. But I wonder, how does Veeranshu gets this inner softness from? His mother? His father?? I mean right now, I am in two minds as to who is the real villain parent in Veeranshu's life

Dekhte hain makers kya dikhate hain.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: amlavs

My dear Behna u should have posted it as a separate post 🤗

Well written.. now Veer is very clear about the feelings which he has for Bani.he is clear in his mission... yes..he remembers his past.. 👍🏼 it's high time..

Aft Teer death and wedding his feelings for Bani was confused.. he himself was not clear how he feels for Bani.. Then aft JAY revelation as Naag ..he was kinda insecured.. and when he got to know Bani is not the REAL killer... he married her WITH magalsutra and all...

Corect me if am worng... till these incidents I don't remember Veer mentioning about love to Bani..


But aft shakura he is very calm and composed...he is not behaving like deewana...now he is matured husband.... now He is more open regarding his feelings to Bani...

Yes..his obsession took back step...( open end for shakura?)

Let's see 🤞🤞

Maine socha it is about the episode only, then why not put it here only. It's just observations of the episode. So why create a separate thread.

Veer is much calmer than before, and partly it is because of the fact that he remembers things, and partly because she jumped off a window for him. Bani and Veeranshu's marriage is their problem. No one else is allowed to interfere, and she has made that very clear to Jai, Mayuri and Shakura too.

Veeranshu was internally struggling between hate and love, and I am sure he chose love. Which is why he is so steady and calm. He is no longer an obsessive aashiq, but he is also a steady and mature husband. His obsession is there, but the love is stronger. Veeranshu Singhania has changed.period.

Regarding Shakura, who knows man.

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