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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
<div>I agree with all your points but this one. Sorry, but I don't believe that a woman has no right not to reject a King. When it comes to her marriage, it is her choice, and that is exactly what a swayamvar is. She has to choose her groom, and even though there was a test one had to pass, she had to choose which participants were worthy of the test. If she did not want to marry Karna, she cannot be blamed for it, for her father wanted her to marry Arjuna and so did she. Caste was very important in those days, far more than it is now, and even though Karna became a King, he was still considered a suta putra so society would have condemned a marriage between a suta man and a kshatriya woman. Even today, people reject potential partners based on criteria such as height, weight or complexion, which IMO is equally superfluous. It may be right or wrong for different people, but it's each person's individual preference and we have to respect that. Back then, caste was definitely the most important criteria so Draupadi refusing Karna was not an insult to him, but simply her stating her preference in a marriage partner. How else could she have done it? The swayamvar had already begun, women were not allowed contact with other men for her to do it privately, and there was no other way to let him down lightly. IMO, Draupadi refusing Karna was within her rights, as no woman (or man) should be forced to marry someone they do not like.So as per this point, I do not agree she did wrong.
before the mace duel began .. epic yudi gives dury a suggestion that he can select any of the pandavas , if he wins - he will get the kingdom back ... that was nonsense rt , but Duri being the fair person chooses Bheem .. he did have some positive traits
Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
Bhima was not born with the strength 10,000 elephants. After Duryodhan poisoned him and threw him into the ocean, he met the nagas who gifted him with divine ambrosia that gave him that strength. After that he began bullying the Kauravas brothers as revenge for how they were treating him and his brothers.The person who brought about the destruction of Kuru clan was Dhritarastra. He did not punish his sons for their ill deeds against his nephews. He pampered them and secretly supported them, and when children at that age are not taught what's right or wrong, they grow up to be perpetrators of crime, which is exactly what Duryodhan and his brothers did. However, one cannot blame just Duryodhan. After all, the apple does not fall far from the tree, so if the parent is corrupt, the child is bound to be corrupt too. That is why I dislike the characters of Dhritarastra and Gandhari so much. They played the victim card several times throughout the epic, trying to put the blame of their bad parenting on someone else, when in fact they are to be blamed for how their sons turned out to be.
Originally posted by: TheWatcher
Bhima was surely a child and I dont even blame him, but he started a chain reaction of Duryodhan hating the Pandavas, that chain reaction caused Lac house, Dyut Sabha, and ultimately the great war.
Originally posted by: srishtisingh
I don't think dhrit could really do duty of a king.no kingship quality is there apparent.a king is not just supposed to sit on throne. a king is leader who leads his army, who takes decisions, who keeps everyone in check, sometimes even personally go in praja and look for wrongs. dhrit could do none of these. may b I sound cruel but this is truth. how dhrit could do these.let us say hypothetically some minister like bheeshma(if he was not bheeshma we knew) try to unsurp him from throne, or did something really wrong to praja how would dhrit b able to forge his authority?