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Karn get Brahmastra from Parsurama.

Dhritrastra asked Sanjay-

As regards Karna, how, indeed, could Death touch him, that
hero equal unto Indra himself, while he was engaged in shooting his manifold celestial weapons? He unto whom in exchange for his earrings, Purandara had given that foe slaying, gold-decked, and celestial dart of the splendour of lightning,"he who had, lying (within his quiver) amid sandal-dust, that snakemouthed celestial arrow decked with gold, equipped with goodly wings, and capable of slaying all foes, he who, disregarding those heroic and mighty car-warriors having Bhishma and Drona at their head, had acquired from Jamadagni's son the terrible brahmastra, that mighty-armed one,

Even yudi also know Brahmastra from Drona. Thats why Karna asked for Brahmastra.

Drona teach Arjun about Brahmashira after Drupad war.

It is possible that Karn went to Parsurama after defeat in Drupad war.

It is also possible that Drupad may have use brahmastra. How could Karn with Kavach Kundal lost to Drupad???

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

I agree w/ Sabhayata on this - Brahmashira was what Karna wanted. He had the Brahmastra - may have gotten it too from Parashurama - which he did use in battle against Arjun, which Arjun quenched w/ Agniastra. Brahmashira was what would have saved him when his wheel sunk, but it was that weapon that Parashurama cursed him w/ forgetting.

In which case, Parashurama had to have known. Bheeshma is still unclear.

Originally posted by: Neutral2

Karn get Brahmastra from Parsurama.

Dhritrastra asked Sanjay-

As regards Karna, how, indeed, could Death touch him, that
hero equal unto Indra himself, while he was engaged in shooting his manifold celestial weapons? He unto whom in exchange for his earrings, Purandara had given that foe slaying, gold-decked, and celestial dart of the splendour of lightning,"he who had, lying (within his quiver) amid sandal-dust, that snakemouthed celestial arrow decked with gold, equipped with goodly wings, and capable of slaying all foes, he who, disregarding those heroic and mighty car-warriors having Bhishma and Drona at their head, had acquired from Jamadagni's son the terrible brahmastra, that mighty-armed one,

Even yudi also know Brahmastra from Drona. Thats why Karna asked for Brahmastra.

Drona teach Arjun about Brahmashira after Drupad war.

It is possible that Karn went to Parsurama after defeat in Drupad war.

It is also possible that Drupad may have use brahmastra. How could Karn with Kavach Kundal lost to Drupad???

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

I dont think karna was part of drupad war it was only kauravas and pandvas since guru drona had asked only kauaravs and pandavs for that guru dakshna not all his students

the karna mentioned in drupad war could be gandhari's son karna

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

i think parashurama had Brahamshira because he taught it to karna

'That tiger of Bhrigu's race (viz., Rama), was well-pleased with the might of Karna's arms, his affection (for him), his self-restraint, and the services he did unto his preceptor. Observant of ascetic penances, Rama cheerfully communicated, with due forms, unto his penance-observing disciple, everything about the Brahma weapon with the mantras for withdrawing it. Having acquired a knowledge of that weapon, Karna began to pass his days happily in Bhrigu's retreat, and endued with wonderful prowess, he devoted himself with great ardour to the science of weapons

my confusion is how much did parashuram teach him and how much did drona teach karna

because parashurama also gave him other weapons

While residing on the Mahendra mountains that resembled heaven itself, Karna met and mixed with many Gandharvas, Yakshas, and gods. Residing there he acquired all the weapons duly, and became a great favourite of the gods, the Gandharvas, and the Rakshasas

when exactly did karna leave drona and to go parashurama before or after the rangbhoomi

it isn't clearly specified

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

It is possible that Karna participated in Drupad war as Drona was indeed his preceptor.

Also there is strong likelihood that he was Radhya Karna because citations say "EVEN mighty Karna" Gandhari's Karna had no accomplishments to get such honour from Vyaasa.

Also it is not necessary that Karna be addressed as Suta's son or Surya's son all the time. The referencess exist where he is simply addressed as Karna without any ambiguity .

• Karna's divine origin / alternate name is not mentioned in the Drupad war, hence it was Gandhari's son Karna rather than Suryaputra Karna.
• Drona only asked the Pandava and Kaurava's for the Guru Dakshina, Karna was neither of them, it is specifically mentioned by Drona that only Pandava and Kaurava should capture Drupad. Karna was not a Pandava or a Kaurava - hence he it was Gandhari's son Karna rather than Radha's son
• Karna defeated Drupad in his Digvijay, Drupad was no way comparable to Karna when it came to prowess, hence it was Gandhari's son Karna rather than Radha's son.