Dutta's past...A creative disappointment???

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay since Seema is this week's punching bag..lol! I have an apprehension, which I'd like to share with all of you! Though she has done something as striking as dating Chaskar, yet she's most famous for maneuvering a simple young lad to became, cold blooded Mafioso! A lot has been discussed regarding whether it was right on dutta's part to do what he did once introduced to such a grave aspect of his love life, but that's not what bugs me, what makes me curious is, were creatives not up to the mark, when it comes to this track i.e. seema's first track. Though this track existed only for two days, it's the MOST important aspect of dutta's life! This track made dutta the dutta with whom we all fell in love with! Did the creatives, while penning down dutta's part of script failed to realize the stature the actor playing dutta would fetch for the character, and that's why they prescribed a simple(unlike his character) heart break story to dutta's past, something which almost every broody male lead of Indian tv owns!

I remember once naku's family was settled in PN, the next morning (God!he was looking killer that day) dutta walked to her and asked why was malmal moore after her and her family? Sensing her hesitation, he assured her that it's okay if she don't want to, he respects it! Adding further, he had told " har kisi ki zindagi mein kuch raaj hote hai, mere bhi hain" (everyone has secrets, even I do), leaving all of us eager to know the story behind those tormented eyes! So, did the creatives failed to predict that those pair of eyes, would someday emote toughest of the tough, probably some most complex emotion, and a heart break is nothing in front of the strom that brewed in those eyes!

As Micheal corleon gets greeted as "don corleon" and the door gets close on a watching Kay announcing that "Micheal is the new Godfather" the audience are left convinced that whatever happened was unavoidable, when the protaganist of the movie vaastav, commits, his first murder, we all knew, that most of the other options were closed for him But when it comes to dutta which share certain similarities with the other two characters, we were left speculating "why he didn't avoided picking up the gun" So, did the CV couldn't visualize, that this character is gonna be cult in future,some one really different from the sterotypes and thus gave his past a similar treatment, which most of the Indian tv men gets just for the sake of avoiding SR for the next 3-4 years?

For, me it would have been more appropriate if Seema played the IMMEDIATE cause rather than the ONLY cause in deciding DSP's fate! I felt a need of bigger picture, may be dutta being completely broke, AS falling severely ill, and may be at the same time, some local goons creating nuisance in the life of Patils, may be even one of the sisters getting stuck to some troublesome affair, and then seema's betrayal coming as a final blow!

Somehow, I feel that dutta's past was not as murky as Gothic the character shaped up! So what's should be it called only A viewer's disappointment or a creative disappointment!

P.S. A more detailed attention was given to dutta's past In DN RES, but that couldn't be considered, since something if not existent on screen remains non existent for most of the viewers!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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me too first ..lol..res
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a very valid point raised aish ...even i wasnt convinced when supriya broke his heart for money and he stepped into the world of crime to earn quick money and power. As u said in many shows n movies it happens the girl ditches the boy for a luxurious life but then the boy doesnt take such a drastic step. how dutta became dutta bhau was a very serious issue just like why nakku hid her face behind black soot so i also think that a proper justification was required and it shouldnt have been handled so casually ..creatives should have handled this aspect by giving us some more valid and strong reasons
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great thread...😃 and I agree with you. 👍🏼

I also felt that the reason for Dutta's dramatic reaction of a first love's betrayal was not convincing enough.

He had a mother and three sisters...he was not alone.

I think what they should have done was Dutta seeing Seema and the manager together...Dutta lose his temper...accidently kill the guy. Then there is the break down for Dutta because he realizes what he has done and that there is no way out.

Dutta having the responsibility of a mother and sisters...take Baji's advice and meet with the underworld...that the only place he is secured from the police or the manager's men after him.

I think I did ask this question to BB and that we had a discussion going on in the D-N TES thread...cannot remember what she answered. 😳

About Supriya...I think Dutta's reaction was right. Because at that time it was not only about Supriya...he did deep down know that there was something not right about Supriya.

It was more about Naku's betrayal, the feeling of being made a fool, Supriya's letter and much more...I think Dutta had a problem with being abandon and that lay in his childhood.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with you totally! I'm guessing it, but the writers initially planned a more-or-less stereotyped background for an underworld Don with a dukhbhari past. With time, once they realized what Mishal was doing to the character, they started adding layers upon layers...and put the spotlight on him!
I would have been happy if Dutta remembered his deprived childhood with Damodar...and wascompletely aware of the fact that AS lost Sreeram Patil because of his father!Now, that would have justified much of his torment...and the violent streak(inherited from his father) and his attitude towards the evil trio...also the fact that despite the love AS showered on him, he felt essentially lonely!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aish

I love ur post and will be back with comments
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Pri your signature 👏👏
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hi aish
you always come up with some very good post😊yes they could have dealt better including baaji his bro cum friend sowed the seed of dutta bhau .maybe intially they must have decided a different track so they wanted to keep all tack open including baji turning negative
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aish,
Brilliant post! but this has been the bane of the entertainment industry. When did they ever take the audiences seriously or think us to be smart enuf to question their take on several issues? Ive actually given up on most of our not just serial makers but even the best of movie makers. Once in a while maybe we r blessed with some brilliant work of fiction.
Aish agree with all your points n they are valid, dutta on seema's betrayal overnight took to crime without even blinking, it was as if he was waiting to do this for a long time n was just waiting for the final push.😆, even baaji instead of being the saviour good friend failed him badly by actually showing the way. There was no mulling over, no evidence of some inner turmoil that shook him to the core to take such a life altering step. Agree its a grave matter to digest being dumped by ur luvd ones, n even in real life u see negative reactions for the same, but there would also be some additional factors like the character or the upbringing or the surroundings of the person. As u mentioned they could have easily shown some other factor in addition to seema's ditching that could have triggered the need or forced him to the world of crime. No one takes to crime just like that, least of all an innocent young hardworking boy like dutta who was content in his smal life.
Oh! you are bang on when you say they did not expect dutta to be such an iconic hit instantly nor Mishal to steal the show with his brilliant portrayal of the same. The foresightedness was not there nor they could later handle the succes even. The post Mishal storyline is evidence of their intelligence n commitment to their work n to their audiences.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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again a wonderfully penned down work aish👏⭐️!

very valid points. in teleland when a rich family suddenly comes on road and a poor guy makes his entry as tycoon in day or two why should a simple man with a loving family turn to underworld just bcoz a stupid female broke his heart. picking a gun is an extreme step...
maybe the creative and even the actor himself never thought the heights Dutta would scale. so at times the makers failed to gauge him right. and told his story of entry to one way road of underworld in very simplistic tone...
i remember reading in some article... surprise hit! at top 2 in TRP charts story of a gangster...
so i guess no one visualized the impact of the Man called Dutta Shriram Patil on teleland when he made his entry or when he left.
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Helloo, Ash pardon me for the delayed response but here I go now with my humble thoughts beneath your indicators...

Did the creatives, while penning down dutta's part of script failed to realize the stature the actor playing dutta would fetch for the character, and that's why they prescribed a simple(unlike his character) heart break story to dutta's past, something which almost every broody male lead of Indian tv owns!

Now Ash , to comment on bold, the first thing that enters my mind is a clever declaration you have made towards the acting skills and abilities of the actor who embodies the role of Dutta ,in other words undisputedly the actor who breathes life into the character of Dutta and thus presents him so, that we hero worship this anti hero. I say anti hero ,that despite his epithets and appellatives of the don with the golden heart ,the godlike figure head amongst the masses of Patil Vadi, the man has blood stained hands , a law unto himself and to others who wrong him or other vulnerable in his precinct. You may be correct in pointing out that the creative team was unaware that this anti hero may become something of a hero ,especially if the story is originally gears towards the journey of a basti maid. Subsequently they also would rather not be seen as a channel glorifying an underworld don, which soon becomes evident by the hike of the TRPS , as soon as the actor makes his entry. However the creative team also want to add in the fairy tale element of the not so good looking simple girl falls for the lord of the manor, and he with her eventually; and for that the creative team have to bring in the man betrayed in love and eventually as a back lash turning to a life of crime. Also, if the creative team intend to show him in the light of having a mistrust issue, especially where emotional attachment was concerned then yes Seema's track was essential.

Now had Seema's shunned lover element is deleted and instead replaced with Dutta on a coldblooded carnage rampage, nothing short of a psychopath killer, the character will be devoid of the element of compassion ,understanding and a certain unexplained identification we feel towards him, in fact we would probably show disinterest and give him up as a man with a serious mental illness that requires specialist medical attention.. the story then will hinge on the hook of a crime thriller. But no the creative team recognise the pulse of viewers, that the love edition has to be part into the story to maintain audience interest, henceforth Seema has to be brought in to kick start this angle, which is more important than toning down the image of the don!. I think the creative team continued to promote the image of a don, cashing in as much as they could via Mishal's incredible rendition of the role. This fact is proved eventually as after his exit the TRPs plummeted and the show had to be brought to a hurried end which the faithful audiences of LTL never bought to this day...

So, did the creatives failed to predict that those pair of eyes, would someday emote toughest of the tough, probably some most complex emotion, and a heart break is nothing in front of the strom that brewed in those eyes!

I think Ash, the creative team knew what they were looking for, they had checked his credentials I would presume. The actor Mishal was an actor with an acclaimed although short lived serial Love story, where he played an intense role. Mishal fitted the description of the character, the age.. I would imagine his trade mark , of a don with general elegance and sophistication compared to his lion like sudden metamorphosis, was something the creative team never bargained for, but were certainly blessed with it , although the channel never recognised this which is regrettable. Mishal certainly stirred up viewers, he juddered audiences with his presentation of a new don who was not obese, smelly, filthy, sleazy looking with pan and ciggy stained teeth, embellished with gold... instead we have this young suave boy/ man don with uniformed dress sense and chic refined gold body ornaments!

So, did the CV couldn't visualize, that this character is gonna be cult in future,some one really different from the sterotypes and thus gave his past a similar treatment, which most of the Indian tv men gets just for the sake of avoiding SR for the next 3-4 years?

Here I would probably agree with you that they couldn't predict.. I recall Mishal too said something to that effect , although he was graceful enough to attribute this to the success to the whole show ,rather than elude to the fact that he had a large part in the TRP rise. Certainly on the small screen MR has been an icon , every third male lead I saw , on TV when he was gone wanted to be like him. Recently there is a show on Life OK where the male star is an angry young man... and he comes across as one .. but I look for a convoluted complexity in this angry young man.. and I give up at the hands of the character being too predictable in his portrayal, and with me where there lies predictability there is boredom.. so I change the channel! However with Mishal as Dutta the CT got it right , that the actor had enough clout to carry on the show minus SR for ,ummh rather a long time..

For, me it would have been more appropriate if Seema played the IMMEDIATE cause rather than the ONLY cause in deciding DSP's fate! I felt a need of bigger picture, may be dutta being completely broke, AS falling severely ill, and may be at the same time, some local goons creating nuisance in the life of Patils, may be even one of the sisters getting stuck to some troublesome affair, and then seema's betrayal coming as a final blow!

Ash I may have tackled this earlier. However in life we come across a variety of experiences some pleasant others not so.. and human that we are we react accordingly to them by our body mind and soul. Along the line we also grade the experiences , according to the impact they have on our lives. This is so ,for we can self evaluate our selves in life , how certain incidents become turning points and learning curves in our life. Also we find that certain incidents and experiences stick out more in terms of character building. To be blunt one incident that either makes or breaks. For Dutta without seeing the scenarios you have mentioned, there were two experiences that mould his future. One was the humiliation he suffered as a man, and the other is living life in an ordinary life style with his family , where he was the only breadwinner. Now if he was considering marriage which he was , and probably marrying his sisters off as well , a mechanic's salary may give him an honest living but not a well to do comfortable middle class life style. Hence when Seema struck, alongside came the adrenaline flow and the opportunity to become rich overnight. Dutta took decisions that shaped his life, thus giving him the multifaceted personality features...

Somehow, I feel that dutta's past was not as murky as Gothic the character shaped up! So what's should be it called only A viewer's disappointment or a creative disappointment!

I don't think his character was a viewer's disappointment . My only disappointment is that the creative team/Colors failed to see why this show LTL reached such dizzy heights... thanks Mishal for giving us Dutta!

P.S. A more detailed attention was given to dutta's past In DN RES, but that couldn't be considered, since something if not existent on screen remains non existent for most of the viewers! What a shame .. you are right... Thank you Ash for a brilliantly written post ,and lots of food for thought... all my love xxhammie..


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