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Originally posted by: thedramaqueen
<font color="#ff00ff">I mean how do you guys even do it? I can't think beyond his tresses and aviators. Analysis smnalysis is going to have to wait for another day</font>
<font color="#ff00ff">On a serious note, I have thoughts that I am lazily hoping someone else will type and I can just "ditto" them.</font><font color="#ff00ff">Aaj nahi hoga. Aaj to julfon main kho jane ko jee karta hai🤬</font>
Originally posted by: devakshi1
So far we don't see any evidence of dev ever being concerned for sona in that 7 year gap.this shift in her story is making that mistake look really bad.initially it didnt look so bad to me.but now it does and that is makes me feel very uncomfortable.
my point is if he didnt fight for sona and decided to let her go because of his mother then his claims over soha is not so justified
I have to disagree with the above quoted. The fact that Dev did not pursue Sona in the seven years that have passed since she left certainly has a bearing on their interpersonal relationship, but has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of his claim on Soha. If Sona were to say that she never wanted to get back together with Dev because he abandoned hope of their relationship thanks to his mother's disapproval, I would be behind her one hundred percent. He didn't fight for her or for them enough. But as he is proving amply now, he would have fought for Soha, but Sona never gave him that chance until now. In my eyes, nothing except Dev's rejecting/neglecting Soha in full knowledge of her existence would reduce his claim as her parent.
I can see how hiding Soha might have been a practical decision, but I would like to hear it directly from Sona. So far, I haven't really heard any practical reasons for this decision -- what I am hearing is, "you didn't want me so you didn't get Soha, because Soha is a part of me." Well, she is also part of Dev. Sona gets this in the abstract, but finds it very difficult to reconcile Soha's papa -- something she knows her daughter needs -- with Dev, the man who rejected and abandoned her. This is why they need a lawyer; someone neutral who can draw up boundaries that they both stick to, with minimum interaction between them. That's the only way I can see it working out best for Soha.
Originally posted by: malikakas
@bold. Today when Sonakshi claimed that she and Soha were perfect... this thought came to my mind too. What are the writers doing? Because the more Sona tries to pretend to be the ideal of the perfect woman the less I actually like her. Self righteousness always grates on my nerves. Her claiming that Dev had kicked them out of his life... well that's not true. He may have kicked Sona out of his life but never Soha. Again its that codependent relationship coming up again where Sona can't distinguish herself as a separate entity from Soha.Sona knows the value of a father daughter relationship and she choose to keep Dev in the dark... yes she tried once but can she honestly think that was enough? Especially when she knows he would've had no idea of knowing they had a child. Sona reiterated several times that she withheld Sona from Dev out of fear of him taking her away. There is a certain degree of selfishness there in what she did. I understand why she did it but how could you not be a little guilty. So today her actions just really made me frustrated. Soha had to go to the passport office? So Sona couldn't tell Dev that as soon as she knew about it? Then her whole "meri beti hai" rant... I mean seriously? She is Dev's daughter too. All Sona is doing is creating insecurity in him which is going to make him do something she doesn't want.I am totally with you on the self-righteousness. It's one of my pet peeves, and especially grating in this instance because Sona is using it to keep Dev on the back foot -- vintage Sona. She is (ab)using her power as Soha's primary parent to make the assertion that she is in control of the situation, so if Dev wants access to his daughter, he has to play by her rules. All this makes sense, as long as she keeps Soha at the center of the issue. Instead of scoffing at Dev's lack of patience, it would have gone a long way for her to say something like, "thanks for understanding; taking this slow and giving her space will really help Soha in the long run." But here's the thing, her outburst came much more from the perspective of a heartbroken woman than from a concerned mother. It was very different from her conversation with Bijoy, which was all mother.The "perfect" dialogue actually gave me hope that the CVs know what they are doing with Sona. People only make such assertions on this show in order to be proven wrong. 😆 In that statement also, I saw the heartbroken lover Sona. "Soha is perfect because I raised her," translation, "you love Soha so much because she is just like me." It hurts Sona to see the side of Dev that she waited for all these years -- the desperate, emotional Dev who is willing to move mountains and do just about anything for the people he loves -- when he hasn't come for her. And I think it makes their break-up all the more devastating. If Dev rejected Soha, then Sona could believe what Bijoy says -- that he is ineherently a bad man -- and live peacefully, but seeing his desperation for Soha, it hits home that he is still capable of the kind of love she wanted, but rejected her specifically.Ouch. 🥺Also I am not sure if the writers want me to believe Soha is perfect? At this point I find Golu far more endearing. I am not sure immediately tattle-tailing on your classmate is a sign of perfection? Usually you give someone a warning first.I'd also argue here that Sona's perfection expectation is damaging to Soha. The poor thing was so disturbed by not living up to a promise she made that she withdrew into herself. What happens tomorrow if she fails Sona's expectations in something else? I think Sona needs to understand that she can't expect perfection from Soha.
The writers have already done a good job establishing that Soha is not perfect. She is the perfect child from an adult perspective, but had trouble with people her own age because she trusts authority figures and abstract power structures more than people. It was really important that Dev brought friendship into her life, especially with Golu, who was shown as her first friend in her age group. Since then, we have seen her with more friends -- like the one in the car when she rescued Ishwari. I loved the fact that Soha extended the olive branch to Golu with the idea that they share tiffin, and the way Golu forgave her yesterday and interacted freely despite her tattling reminded me so much of Sona's relationship with Saurabh early on. For Golu, being in the same team meant unconditional support; for Soha it meant calling your loved ones out on their mistakes when they made them. Why does that sound familiar, hm? 😆For me this whole concept that a woman needs to have it all is a damaging concept. Have you ever watched Indra Nooyi's interview (she's the Ceo of Pepsi)? She lays it out that something will always be lacking somewhere. You find comping mechanisms but you can't be perfect.Oh for sure, and I loved that interview. In the same vein, I caught a bit of this show recently while I was flipping channels, "Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce." In it, the principal calls a mom into her office to complain that the mom sent her nanny in her place for some class activity where a parent volunteer was needed. The dad tells the mom to apologise, and she goes on this awesome rant about how she won't apologise for the fact that she is busy providing for her children and that sometimes her job involves unexpected scheduling conflicts. I'll try to see if I can find a link somewhere.EDIT: If anyone is interested in the clip I mentioned above, here's a link. Watch from 36:00. https://ok.ru/video/24709368386
Sona, the lover is in pain and she is stopping Sona, the mother from thinking. Dev has always come after Sona. Be it a small text message "H" or a big deal where she went to her maika for a "few" days or he broke up with her and couldn't see her lame attempts at moving on. She is used to the stalking. Like you said Sam, seeing this Dev back - the one who doesn't leave a stone unturned when it comes to his loved ones, must have been a shock to her system. This Dev is who she must have waited for. The one who doesn't take no for an answer. Like she said in her story. She waited a day, week, even a year. Recall how she kept checking her phone when she came to her maika waiting for Dev to call her. She must have waited for so long after the fateful night hoping that Dev will turn up and prove Bijoy wrong. After all that waiting, she came to Delhi only to be told Dev doesn't want to meet her and to never come back again.
This blase approach to Soha-Dev's first formal meeting as dad and daughter is her coping mechanism. She is telling herself, this stalking that she missed out on, is no big deal. In turn this, kwel attitude is riling up Dev even more.
I have nothing more to add at this point.
Howdy People 🤗Yet on page 21 ( How much and how fast you people talk 😲 😆?!)Tell me about it Deepa.. We love to talk!Came back to senses today and liked the episode.. Makers are definitely in for something😉. Will post about it later. For now came to say wonderful analysis everyone that too from different dimensions... that too without biting each other's heads off. Thanks for showing me that sensitivity is still alive atleast in this thread 👏Sam, just wanted to point, below is one brilliant post my dear and it kept my hope of serving justice duly! Thanks for Aswathy who figured this and DQ for taking it further finally Sam glorifying it 👍🏼 Brilliant ladies !!I agree... between us all we seem to have found a gem here with the Krishna angle. Thanks to Awasthy for picking on that one!
Originally posted by: desigirl987
Makers are trying to show the difference in upbringing in Soha-Golu scenes. Soha is not ready to give upon her ideals evenif it is about her brother. The weight of Soha's betrayal was visible on Golu's face , for him she was his team now (These kids are just too cute , it's a treat to watch them onscreen and offscreen) . I was worried if this would give him another reason to hate her , over the jealousy . But they surprised me , how easily they managed to have an honest communication and establish ground rules with respect to the new found relationship .
Isn't that the something the parents had to do , instead of accusing and instigating each other , lets just hope they learn from these kids . I think makers are intended to use kids for this purpose extensively in the upcoming tracks .