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Posted: 16 years ago
Nadia: What do you mean by redeeming Prem and then going for the actual separation track? how does that work? i am not positive at all. it's the case of once bitten twice syndrome. don't know will have to wait and see. also the whole nihaal thing is also there. The purpose of showing it was to indicate that veera will go back to nihaal for the money. Maya may help veera in this or they may split because then maya's biggest pawn in the game will be lost. I know we don't care about Maya and Veera but if it affects prem and heer then we should know how it'll turn out, right? I think creatives are changing the tracks every week. That is why they don't have any fixed story. I think they were all ready to go ahead with their stupid track which started with veera's abortion but after all the hungama they have altered it but how much is something we'll have to wait and watch. With regards to something happening to Prem, i don't think. I mean he's just come out of a blast and "hole in the heart" do you think they'll do something more with him. They could considering that he's most fav character in the show. But they can also try to show something happening to Heer, right? I don't know what to think anymore. just going in circles.
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Posted: 16 years ago
veera going back to nehal for money also means Premeer together no?
What i meand by redeeming Prem and then going aead with seperation track was that earlier they destroyed Prem on 29th April and were going ahead with seperation track..............but after all hangama they realised the ruining Prem char and turning him into a vimp won't serve the purpose so they put the effort to redeem Prem first and now they might go ahead with seperation track in a way where Prem's char remains intact! Like heer leaving on her own etc. Sniff
But i am still hopeful even though we have been bitten so many times in past 4 months by the creatives still i can't help being hopeful for my own sanity
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Posted: 16 years ago
Nadia: i hope they do something positive. Supposing prem leaves the house and they both set up a different house even then they won't be happy, right? i mean we saw how miserable he was when they were living away from teh family. So what is the point of them being together if all they do is cry? I don't know. Every week i think next week we'll know where it is heading but every week i am tearing my hair trying to figure it out. I wonder if the creatives themselves know where they are heading. I only wish they work on teh screenplay, direction and dialogues a bit. You know the 1st May episode was a complete team work. That was near perfect (a major blooper being in the scene between heer and meher somebody's fingers are visible on teh camera lens). This is where the top rated shows have the advantage their every episode is 100 times better than KDM's 1st may episode. when i say better i don't mean in terms of a lead pair chemistry. but better in terms of the flow of the story, screenplay, direction etc. Most of these shows don't have great stories either but they know how to present it. This is why KDM rocked under Vikas. Because he knew how to take it. Even after Prem's death the story was going smoothly. But since Ipsita took over all that has happened is confusion and more confusion, tears and more tears. It is like she's stuck in this time bubble. She just can't see beyond separating the lead pair. I am not saying the show was perfect under vikas but it was 1000 times better be it dialogues, direction or screenplay. but now everything seems to be falling apart. Rekha Modi is a fantastic writer but some of her lines these few weeks have been really ugh. Screenplay and direction is like winning a lottery. if you are lucky then one episode will have good screenplay and direction and the rest of the days will leave you wondering as to which idiot is directing the show or writing these scenes. If these guys want the the show to succeed then they have to work really hard. The actors esp HC look tired and worn out. Have you noticed how tired Shama despande looks. Not to mention the viewers who are reaching the breaking point. Don't know what they have in mind. Right now it looks like only the viewers want this show to go on. BTW i do think veera will go back to nihaal for the money. whether she'll stick with him or not i don't know but she'll go after the money.
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Posted: 16 years ago
hope i agree production wise when i look at the new epis and old ones they difference is HUGE!!! Be it screen play, production quality, editing, direction! Looking at old KDMHMD epi you feel you are watching something classy!!! Ishpita either does not have any interest in the show or simply has too many shows in hand to concentrate!!! Everything has gone down, screen play, production, editing, continuity everything..............story simply has no flow ever since Prem's come back...............the only thing that is keeping us hooked is our love for Premeer..............and magnificiant chemistry of HC and AG . if they seperate Prem and heer what would be left in the show to look forward to? So i am hoping for the sake of audiance atleast they will keep them together! Yes Prem will be miserable like he was last time during chawl days..............still we got to see the magic didn't we? At that time they weren't married this time they are so even the hesitation won't be there!!! This tine heer can be more open with Prem and that will give Prem more confidence unlike last time when he couldn't share much with heer! So i don't care even if Prem cries all the time as long as they are together
I agree with actors looking tired and that has been visible since they started showing 5 days a week instead of 4.
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Posted: 16 years ago
And i don't understand why the show does not get TRPs honestly even in the current state it is much better than some of the other shows! If i look around other shows forum...............the kind of bondage i find here that people have with the show is not there with anyother show!!! Honestly it is beyond me why it does not get TRPs, despite my disagreement with creatives and all i still feel the show deserves better on TRP charts as well as better treatment by Star plus
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Posted: 16 years ago
ya i accpet 2u why the show doesnt get trps
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Posted: 16 years ago

Nadia: the show will get TRPs if there is some sense in what they are showing. They should thank their stars for whatever they are getting. Had it not been for HC and AG's chemistry this show would have been out of top 100 long time back. Frankly viewers (whoever are left) watch it in the hope that Prem and Heer will be together and happy. If the creatives think that they are getting TRPs becoz of their tracks then they are seriously living in a fool's paradise. The TRPs only come because of HC and AG's chemistry. Nothing more nothing less. If they don't believe it they should try showing atleast one week without these two and see the ratings. People are watching all the stupid things they are showing only for these two.

I mean from dec till april they were just testing the audience patience with the stupid Prem-Gaurav track once that got over they started the idotic "hole in the heart" track which lasted for two weeks. soon after they started the separation track which i don't know where it is heading. See none of their tracks have anything positive. We had to fight to get them to make him Prem (this inspite of all the mails and petitions which clearly said that HC should be brought back as Prem). The disease track was plain stupid. I mean that was just used to show a reason why Prem did the whole Gaurav act. They were just trying cover their mistakes. But what I am saying is they could have easily avoided this by simply showing that Prem's rescued from the blast but is seriously injured and lost his memory (agreed it would have been a used and abused track but atleast better than what they did). why come up with tracks which you know will not be accepted by people. Either have the courage to stick by your story or just show what people want to see. I mean as creatives isn't it their job to create something rather than destroy it. Again I can't but ask who do they make the shows for? Who?
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Posted: 16 years ago
hope not just that they could show him seriously injured and having a memory loss... even if they wanted to show him pretending a ML they could have done it in a much much better way.i think they were indecisive for a loooong time and when they realised it was just too late to make it smooth!!! I mean what's with the thoughts in the head he had as GS all pointing to a memory loss if he was faking? There were simply too many loopholes and i agree with you we all watch it in the hope that happy days would be back........sighs i am depressed now!
And if we see the rajhistan episodes........production wise they were extremly good even with Ishpita as creative head they were briliantly direted, dialogues were great too...............after rajhistan i think they just lost track "sniff"
Honestly i have never felt so hurt and cheated by the creatives and story writers of a serial as i have with these people... and sad fact is i don't think this hurt process would end anytime soon
Edited by Soaps1 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
you know sometimes i really feel that just because they have Premeer and they know how much we love them...they take everything else, even their audiance for granted...they think we will take any crap they show us for the sake of Premeer and Harshiti..........and that is true abt us to a great extent "sniff"" no matter how angry we are we simply don't give up for the sake of Premeer But that is so wrong of BT because we may be attached to this show and may not leave it... but in future i am sure we would never feel like watching a BT show ever again because of the way they treat their audiance and think they are fools or stupid and have no sense! So its their loss i wonder why they don't understand this
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Posted: 16 years ago
Nadia: The rajasthan shoot was done very well but the director was different. That guy, i think, now works on BT's show on colours. See the problem with the current team is lack of consistency. Some days you get brilliant episodes. Screenplays, dialogues and direction are it's best. But some days it is like all those people were sleep walking through it. I mean the entire Heer confronting Gaurav and his confession and the scenes that followed eps the one on the bed was fantastic - excellent dialogues, superb screenplay and good direction (the directors have changed since) then you get something like the whole consummation scene which was one of the worst directed scenes ever. With two people who have such hot thing going they could have done it so beautifully i mean their dance in last week's episode had more passion and was more sensual than the whole consummation scene. Consistency is a major problem with this team. And actors can't cover up for bad production value for long. See we still watch the show in a hope but for most others they just don't want to break their head in frustration so move on to other shows. people lead very stressful lives and don't want more stress and that too from a TV show so they'll watch something which will keep them intrigued but not make them insane.

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