All 3 Are Equally Responsible.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ok,My Pov about who is more responsible and who is less.I feel all three of them are qually responsible for this whole mess.

1) Ragini :

What she lacks : I can understand her when she said she had to be strict with her kids as she was single parent and was both Father and Mother.What she didnt realise is that this theory is good when the kids arte actually kids.Once they reach to their Teenage,you cant be like this with them.The kids need her more as a Friend from time to time to understand the set of problems.

She was against Nishis marriage from day 1 and i totally agree with her fear and the reason behind her decision not to agree for the marriage.She wanted her to complete her education first,make a career for herself and then think about the marriage.But i never saw her talking with her as a friend and explain her why she is against this marriage.Your daughter becaomes your best friend once she reaches her teenage(i read it somewhere).She never told Nishi what all problems she faced post Divorce (not saying she should tell her everything),but atleast how her education helped her to have a career and made her independent post divorce and thats why she wants her to complete it before thinking about marriage.

The day she got a call from Nachiket,she went ahead and fixed her marriage.Why?This is her first mistake where if not directly she gave an indirect hint to both her kids that if she disagrees with something,one call from him can change her decision and thats where for both of them their dad became hero in their eyes.She should had told them that she is still against the marriage and no way she is going to agree for it.

Aarav : She never sat with him and explained him why she is sgainst his wish of doing business at this young age.You just cant shout at your teenage kid and think that he will understand your views.He again went to his father like his sister and like the last time,he agreed for him doing business with a condition that he should continue his studies.

The fact is both her kids are very immatured for their age.They never had any one else except their Mom.Raginis mother is the most useless granny of india television history.she knows that Ragini has to go out and work ,to earn and hence it was her duty to provide that love,friendship whatever you name it to those two kids.She behaves as if she dont care about them at all.

The problem is Ragini believes once she told her decision ,kids have to accept it come what may.Its not happening these days once they reach to teenage.I really hoped 1/5 of the time she spent with her so called friend Aman sir,she had sepnt with those kids as a friend,things might have been different today.

Does that mean if she was more friendly,Nishi and Aarav had listened to her and not got married and the other involved into business is totally different point altogther.

2) Nachiket Khanna.

: He was never their for his kids and just provided matearlistic things for them,But they are more lucky becoz even though Pam may be a vamp,but she was their for the set of kids.She did what Ashaben failed to do.Yes,they missed their mom but she atleast gave some love to them.

What he lacks: He is a big fool,let me start accepting that.He beiieves in giving freedom to them and if they make mistakes,they will learn.Because of this,we can see what Ranbir has turned into,he has not realised it yet but im sure in the future it will hit him big time.He is lucky that his other two kids are matured and didnt took advantage of that freedom.They respect their dad (even Ranbir for that matter respects him).They dont complain like Ragini kids whenever anything goes wrong.

Coming to Nishi,for her their dad is superhero,because just one phone call made the whole difference.Her mom agreed for the marriage.I feel the big mistake Neil made as far as Aarav is concerned is that he should have never sent him to the Mud island Bunglow,and insted kept him with him for that whole night knowing how series the issue is.Its sad he hasnt realised it yet.

He bei\lieves that if a lie can save someone from hurt,its better to lie,but what he dont realise is that when it comes out in open,the hurt is more to that person for whose sake he lied.Its not the first time,it happened and i sont know how many more incidents are needed for him to realise this.

3) Nivedita Basu :'

What she lacks : She lacks everything but...

The first mistake they (creatives,nb,story writers ) made is to show Neil setteled in US not in Mumbai.They cant keep the leading actors apart for many days and hence they have to bring them in one frame and for that he has to be in India.She cant go leaving her baggage (mom,nani) to US for any reason,its always he who has to come here.How i really hoped they both are in the same city from day 1 and not meeting with each other for 15 years or even 9 months,then they had the scope to show faults at both set of kids.But now they are showing problems only in her set of kids and showing single woman in very bad taste.They are making Ragini villan in the eyes of her own kids.I really hope they will show problems with Khanna kids too and make them realise the importance of a mother in kids life.

After divorce,and once they divided the kids,they are still bothers and sisters and i can bet this can happen only in BT world,where an elder brother thinks to take revenge from his younger one by snatching the girl that he loves.Its totally stupid and crap.It never happenes anywhere else.Nb has murdered the term relationships in this show.Mother was faking her marriage at her daugters wedding,Father engagement was announced,Brothers are fighting for the same girl,There is no bonding between the parents and other set of kids,all this can happen only in BT world.

She used kids to unite and break the relationship of Neira.She still thinks they are lovers but not parents.This is the most immature way how she is showing 40 + parents behaving with each other and none of them ever thinking about the other set of kids for whom only they are responsible for bringing them on this earth.If they cant take care,who told them to produce them in the first place?(Sorry .no offense please)

i atleast hope now nb will wake up and will show the parents side from now on,If she still continue to show them fight like lovers instead of thinking about kids,i can say only one thing.

Nb Mata Ki Jai.

Infact i cant connect with Neira anymore.I took a break for few days,will follow from Monday just for RR and PK.Will forget the story at 11 pm and will watch the next epi again for RR and PK.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Too Good @goldstar678 .. I agree with everything .. that you've said ..
Kids are a result of bad parenting ..

Neil and Ragini .. care only about themselves ... their love, their ego etc.. .. THEY DON'T CARE about their children. Period.

Excellent .. You've done a SWOT Analysis of the leads and Creative Head ..


But I liked NB's SWOT the most .. Absolutely no Strengths ..

I mean .. where does such things happen .. An Elder brother 'stealing' his younger brother's girl-friend.. and both of them .. fighting for the same ..😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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the only person i blame is Nivedita Basu and her team...such shallow and baseless characterizations ...such a weak storyline if there was any..such a flawed narration and script ...i can understand heroes and villains but her characters i cannot

not only you...none of us can relate to or connect to this neil or ragini or absolutely anyone in this show...can you believe the only episode post leap i have seen is the dream sequence on 25th may and yesterday phone conversation...i have actually lost interest in the show ...that woman's arrogance is going to sink this ship and you will have her on twitter whining about the same...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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love the topic. indepth analysis.
now just wait for NB to read this and play victim again. keep an eye on her twitter
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post.

I agree with Sun, the fault line starts and ends with BT and NB.

No characters defined not even the leads how NR will be at start, in 40's etc. There is no growth in the characters at all. How can that be possible that what NR were 15 years back in their 20's they are still the same today in their 40's. Leave aside introspection, looking back. Age years and pain mellow a person down, but no growth or change at all in NR.

No outline of story except they are separated so unite, they are together so separate.

The team does not even want to put in an effort for dialogues or scenes, we have been hearing a repeat of most crappy dialogues since the show started.

They have taken up 2 very good and sensitive issues that of single parent and infertility, but have handled them in most crudest of ways possible.

After a long wait yesterday we saw NR talk to each other, viewers were waiting for this what did we get. Same recycled stuff. It started of well by R tell N "Tumhari Beti" "Tumhari Zaroorat", then again "She is MY daughter" etc again N mentions her Ego. Same stuff and same fight. The End. I think the viewers did deserve something better after a long wait. They could have shown 2 worried parents talking about their own kid.

Whatever creative team has been put up for IKNMP is the worst i think, cause BT have handled issues as illlegal child, euthanasia etc well in other serials, but here they cant even give us 1 good episode.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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I will agree with all of you.
Pavan, an excellent post. 👍🏼


Sun - total failure lies with NB and Team. Nobody else is to be blamed.

But if we are considerign characters, then both N and R are at fault. Myabe they should stop N from sprouting those stupid, inane dailogues and passign all the balme to R.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice topic
I feel instead nishi NR should go to consultation for their relation
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sampa79

Nice topic

I feel instead nishi NR should go to consultation for their relation


Good one Sampa,but the irony is that there is no one in this show who can show mirror to these two,I thought jignesh baa may do that but now it seems even that's not happening.

These two idiots won't realise until then.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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goldstar you stole my words! Though I believe that NB is more responsible. But you guys have forgotten one main thing: Raghini asking Neil to put Ranbir in jail instead of Arav. I mean why on the earth would a mother do that??? Seriously, konsi aisi maa karegi aisa? It's a big mistake on the part of creative heads. Esp. when Raghini is shown to be missing her other two kids for her whole life and she even used to save money for them, bake cakes for them. If N had said those words I wouldn't have been shocked but c'mon a mother, a mother like R? I couldn't watch that whole episode, stopped it in the middle.
The characters were never well defined. And I agree with you ppl N and R have grown up, they are 40+, but they are behaving like kids, still fighting. Though I believe this time around it was N's fault. He should have told R about Arav and they both could have helped him. But, no he was busy romancing R. And it was very irresponsible on his part to just leave Arav in jail and settle comfortably with his set of kids and Pam.
Even I have lost interest. Just following the written episodes now and watching few interesting scenes. Will continue watching from Monday hopefully. I hope NB realizes it soon before ppl like us stop watching the show altogether.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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R didn't tell N to replace Aarav with Ranbir.
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She asked whether it would have been so easy for N if instead of Aarav, it was Ranbir in jail?

We mustn't forget how nasty N himself has been when Ranbir was arrested for the car accident and for leaving Shilpa on the road. N was at his nastiest best.
Edited by poetic - 10 years ago

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