Why redemption is still a must

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srirao

@srirao

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#111

for both of them to heal from the inside & accept their love redemption is needed...we have always seen arnav regretting even the minor hurts he gave her that too when he thought he hated her...so now that he has accepted his love the he will repent big time...khushi may not want it but she needs his redemption!

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rima

@rima

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#112

Originally posted by: miakutty
this is a much needed post...i was wondering for the past couple of days..if things r going this way...'ll there ever be a redemption track...
i want it so bad 😔

even I want it bad and with so many debates about why redemption is not needed I had to make this post

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payasa

@payasa

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#113

Originally posted by: rima
Of course Khushi does not want Arnav to hurt or be in pain or go tizzy with remorse.

Of course ASR has already realized his love, confessed it and suffered in love.

But words said in anger, actions done out of hate and grief given due to rash actions, need to be undone through kind words, remorse and loving actions.

Because whatever time and change heals, it never heals the pain of harsh words and deeds. They come back to haunt and pinch when we are at our lowest points in life.

For Khushi to heal inside, she needs a redemption.

For Arnav to be trusted completely, he needs a redemption.

For the love to become stronger, the love needs a redemption.

For them to begin their relationship afresh, they both need a redemption.

For we the viewers, who have watched Khushi torture, we need a redemption.

Again I stress, redemption is not separation.
Redemption is not ASR hurting himself.
Redemption is not grief for either.

Redemption should simply be ASR realizing through words and actions, how wrong he was about Khushi from Lucknow till date.

Redemption means Arnav giving back Khushi all her dreams.

Redemption means Arnav marrying Khushi in style again.

Redemption means loving Khushi and giving her the due she deserves in his life.

Is that too much to ask? I hope the CVs don't let us down here!

rima,

well said

regret is a also step towards redemption which he is doing it since the beginning. he has always shown to to regret his actions. in other sense, he makes up for the mistakes whenever he has done wrong,( redemption), when it was always there there is no need of separate track on this either showing separation.

it doesn't have to be physically hurting oneself, tormenting or getting separated from the other,

it can be in the form of making up with extra loads of love also.. i feel this way would be more meaningful

khushi character is selfless. when it comes to love, the feeling is heightened

Edited by payasa - 13 years ago

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priya

@silvia1999

Sparkler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#114

nice post rima👍🏼.personally i want redemption track,but not asr hurting himself and bringing another guy in khushi's life.just to realize his past mistakes

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Sareeta

@sareeta

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#115

Originally posted by: momma1128

@bold - what implied pain - like he will feel bad and that will be it? No one has said that here - everyone is saying that he has to show her.

@underline - if that is all you are saying then you could have just said that in the first page and we would have all agreed. 😆

Rima , we see your point about implied pain. But what we are trying to say here is that implied or not, Khushi understands Arnav like the back of her hand! After 1 yr if we don't realize it , too bad! :) Khushi just needs to see Arnav realizing what went wrong and she will embrace him with and wont even let him go all the way with repentance (coz she knows Arnav is his harshest critic!) in the cliched manner - she wont let him punish himself. She knows, just for Arnav to say it or even show it in his actions means Arnav has come a Looong way and that is undeniable fact that the man realized - he has lived through the guilt and suffered in those moments that he did! simple.

Now undoing wrongs for all practical purposes is impossible. How can a wrong be undone , pray tell me? even slapping someone cannot be undone forget words that inflict pain beyond measure.

Words like undo, change, makeup for mistakes is just not possible!!! You only realize and move on and better yourself in terms of looking at things and making better judgments, but you cannot undo and that is something I cannot seem to accept that is discussed on this forum.

If making up means realizing what he has done and not repeat it, yes fine. Not showing extra love. Pray , what in the name of the lord is extra and more love? Love is enough there is no more or less. It is not a calculated measure. what is this new measure of khushi loves him more and he loves her less. If you love you love, unconditionally...if there are conditions, it is just not love!

My 2 cents. Rima, great thread that you've initiated and I am so glad am able to discuss and join in on the discussions with others! SO thank you!!!

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Sareeta

@sareeta

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#116

Originally posted by: Rabba-Ve-Delena
Very aptly put Rima.
I'm focussing on the prehap! I am a stripped ArHi fan craving substantive scenes.

Honestly I don't need to watch a Devdas type Arnav or elaborate acts showing he is repenting and attempting to redeem his wrongs... remember how simple, direct and honest but heartfelt his apology was which Lavanya heard.
Something like that... a heartfelt apology because getting ASR to apologise is enough. I don't think Khushi is vindinctive who prepared to hold a grudge. I think she just wants to restore her personal respect and dignity in his eyes not to prove him wrong. Its like that promo where he drives into her scooter and she doesn't want anything but an apology. That'd be more fulfilling.

3 weeks ago, I would have felt different but Khushi wants to fight for their relationship and Arnav simply wants her. Cvs need to give a starved Ouma her fix!

Exactly Delena!!! Just one instance where Khushi knows that Arnav has realized what actually transpired and she knows that things will fall in place. She doesnt even need an apology if you ask me in this instance, coz she knows he is misguided and she wants him to know the truth but given his nature where he jumps to conclusions based on what he saw, she needs to show him the truth and once he sees, she knows, the man is intelligent enough both emotionally and otherwise to put hte pieces to together, Right now, he doesn't know the entire truth and he needs to know it! In his anger (like anyone else) he is not ready to listen - remember this man is weak with emotions and in his Di's case, he is so weak, that it takes all of him to literally battle the unjust done to her emotionally, it wrecks him, tears him and nearly breaks him...so what is keeping him together even now - that one hope strangely a lonely ray of hope that he blurts out in the airport scene, kahin na kahin socha tum apne aap ko prove karogi ki tumne..ye nahin kiya(something to this effect , that she was innocent!)

Agree with you one hundred percent, she is not vindictive. She has heard his sorry and she knows what he goes through..she spelt it out for him ...aap sorry kehne ki koshish kar rahe the... do you think she will even need him to say that he is sorry now? No, she doesn't need anything. SHe got what she wants. He loves her and that is all that matters. All the wrong done unto her...will lose any importance (even being remembered) in her eyes!

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sita1150

@sita1150

Inactive

Posted: 13 years ago

#117

very good post,👏i completely agree with u,,

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Sareeta

@sareeta

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#118

Originally posted by: mommy2000

@bold - there will be more than "simple" realization of his past actions.
I don't think there is any one more than Arnav himself, who will want to make amends for his mistreatment. And regardless of whether Khushi wants it or not, requires it or not, he will give it to her. Because it is as much a part of his character as is everything else.
That being said, this is just a part of their journey towards each other and not the end. They love each other despite every reason not to. He still does not know that she is innocent and yet, can't help loving her. She has every reason to despise him and yet she wants nothing more than to be with him. What I am interested in watching is how they find their way towards each other.

Second your thoughts completely! You've said it, I couldn't have said it any better myself!

In bold - that succinctly describes Arnav! Khushi doesnt need any explanation, but Arnav, being what he is, will give it to her in his own way and i don't think he will speak, his little loaded with realization, will and that if anything will make Khushi fall in love with him all over again if it is possible ;)

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Sareeta

@sareeta

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#119

Originally posted by: momma1128

I am chuckling here because of the same thing Sareeta. Audience wants this that and the other thing, regardless of whether or not it fits with the character or storyline arc.

ASR's conscience will propel him into darkness after Khushi gets shot. Khushi will help him realize that she doesn't require anything from him except his undivided attention, love and trust. This is going to be a process, why the hell does it have to be a "track"? And who will grant him "redemption"? As far as I see, ASR is his own harshest critic. especially when he is wrong. Why do we need it to be a planned out wooing shmoozing totally staid mush fest. Khushi did not fall in love with a man who was soft, she fell in love with the man who showed his love in quiet ways, unpronounced. He will go through building his trust in small ways everyday. Let the CVs tell the story and put the scorecards away people - you will enjoy the story more. (disappearing now)

Spot on ! I couildnt have said it any better myself. You said it!!!! And yes why should it be track for lord's sake?!!! It is a process and definitely not a change. People dont change drastically. I hate that word! People get better... a positive thing as love, does that to people, you become better, if you are hurting, you heal and if you are dying (sorry for treading a poetic path), you come alive! :)