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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: premparbat

HI Sush.

The Sush-O-Meter was very accurate today . The 9.3 rating is deserved.
The best part was Arnav's apology to Payal. Extremely heartfelt and his explaination that i wanted to do it after you got fixed with Akash was perfect. Good for Payal she will now have a strong ally in the Raizada mansion.
I was a bit apprehensive about the tyre change scene as I was following the forum this morning. I too found it very pleasant and it establisehd that Khushi will not be taken for granted and will be an equal partner in their marriage.
What is confusing me though is so at what point is Arnav's and Khushi's relatioship at ? Are they in "Lets get to know each other better while we remain engaged to others " I am unable to figure out by their actions lately as to what do they intend to do with this "Whatever you call this feeling " they have for each other. Why are their heads buried in the sand ?
Arnav is not doing anything about it . Even his reaction on meeting her fianace seemed a bit mild to me. And Khushi is still playing girly games. Thankfully we have Shyam who will play cupid coz the way these two are going we will never get what we want. 😛
Great episode. Did skip the babuji scene myself. Such scenes disturb my sensibilities. Rather be in Arhi land.
Take care


you are bang on there...thats why we need slimy snake there..these two are not going to confess
..they are making a big fuss about saying a sorry and thankyou😆...do u think they will say you matter to me..no way

@shweths and sharu: so snake is required girls...if you want to see Arhi together!😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zuzana


you are bang on there...thats why we need slimy snake there..these two are not going to confess
..they are making a big fuss about saying a sorry and thankyou😆...do u think they will say you matter to me..no way

@shweths and sharu: so snake is required girls...if you want to see Arhi together!😛


zu look who is talking , i am sure CVs will read your post and keep snake 😉
i agree with we need snake as much as we need ASR and Arnav 😆
but when they can send OP and JP off why not snake 😉

i liked his and kushis reaction when shyam was called out 😆 What else u expect he is jealous and curious but he does not want the guy to be introduced as kushis fiancee too 😆
and about kushi oh she does not want arnav to meet shyam what if he brakes some bones of shyam 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes, today we are on the same page😉 Loved the Arhi interaction & Arnav apology. Did I see an instant connection between Payal-Arnav. This is why I said she would make a good Anjali clone. She is every bit Anjali and Arnav connected with her.


One thing is clear from today's episode, Khushi is in control of her emotions; Arnav seemed like he wears his heart on his sleeve😲 He was constantly watching her especially when she was taking care of her father. His heart went out to her. He was quick to own up when Payal said Khushi feels responsible.

Even his anger seemed fake when he stepped out😆 When the tire pressure was out, uncleji seemed to have secretly enjoyed the attention auntiji was giving him😳 In fact, the coming back to the Gupta's was because he didn't have enough of Ms KKG! PG banke rahe?😆 Her nautanki/pranks, which he once hated; he seemed to enjoyed it today & it seemed endearing to him.

Did I sense a tad bit of disappointment when she said bye?😉 But the ASR in him promptly said bye. Both Khushi & Payal now know that babuji doesn't like the sagai.


Sur ko kissi deewar pur patakne ka mann kar raha tha when I saw Anjali walk away when the phone rang in the Gupta house. Issi ladki ka kya kare?
Edited by --Sari-- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Zu, don't tell me you're a secret admirer of Snake and his creepy sapera been-like background music...😛😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Sush! How r u?

Gud epi...loads of Arhi...

Arnav ban gaya gentleman...True dat! wat was Mrs.Garima Gupta doing?! they literally deserted Shashi babua and he s under the nursing of either Snake ya Khushi?!

Works assigned for people n Gupta house?

Khushi - Almost everything

Shyam- Chai banana n cooking n occasionally law practice

Payal- laundary

Bua n garima -?!...I got it! bazaar janaa

Loved Arnav n Payal...and yeah! agree with u on Payal...she behaves sensible

Sorry Sush! however I try not b annoyed...ODG irks me...

"oye bacchon don't tease uncle...it was not me who made announcement about his ignorance on changing tyre...it was my bhoot...I was busy with other nautankis, teary eyes, goo goo eyes @ him...only the order changed...and I doubted dat he wil scold my sis cos it was not him who helped me ...it was his bhoot!"

Mami- better not 2 talk about her...

gr8 post as always!

Edited n added- for Khushi - intentionally unintentional barging in when my future hubby n my current sis n future co-sis wanted 2 have a personal convo

And yeah I loved the last scene...No sorry No Thank U
Edited by cindrella255 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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sharu and shwets: I want snake disappear from the screen the instant arhi are married😆

Shwets loved your high points..dont you think he was being empathetic just because it was her babuji...arhi both bond well when the topic is parents ..you see ASR becoming Arnav the instant its about them being orphans or its about their parents...that boundary is increasing now because of his guilt towards Payal...he is still Arnav when its about Payash. Thats it Shwets...this empathy will not extend beyond this..when Snakes truth comes out will he be empathetic to kushi? I highly doubt about it...he will be back being ASR then.

I wont take away the credit from him for being patient when she damaged his tyre.😉
Edited by Zuzana - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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great analysis!! I wonder why KKG said she should apologize but won't??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Zu,...You are so right dear...It is so easy for Khushi to talk about things...about emotions...she can not hold her eagerness, she jumps in..it makes him go in his shell...he feels vulnerable and withdraws...iss couple ka kya karen...CVs ne jodi hi aisi banayi hei ki nothing is simple between them...
Shwets...lovely post dear...I am so happy that you liked the epiosode today...He was the only one tuned totally into her..what she was thinking ...what she was feeling...The only other person whose face he reads like this is Anj...She is so much a part of him...his axis...Shwets...every action of his is a reaction to her...good or bad or showing indifference deliberately...Love this love story...
Ratna...Khushi deals with Arnie like no one does...as his equal...LOVE IT!! You ask
What is confusing me though is so at what point is Arnav's and Khushi's relatioship at ? Are they in "Lets get to know each other better while we remain engaged to others " I am unable to figure out by their actions lately as to what do they intend to do with this "Whatever you call this feeling " they have for each other. Why are their heads buried in the sand ?
My take is that they know how special they are to each other...but Arnie is to adamant to run away and Khushi is in a fix not to be able to do anything...I don't think Shyamu's being there is the only solution though...I know they won't move on their own in this situation...but what if Shyamu is not there? He is gone ...would Arnie still be engaged to La? I think Shyamu has been the main plot in the original story ...but that is exactly the part that makes IPKKND less than a hip serial...for youngsters and for people like me...who just don't care for this shit...(pardon my language). Perhaps this was a story fit for a place or time where polygamy was allowed or legal...but in todays day and age it makes no sense...CVs should just give it up...I have really no patience left for Shyamu story to drag any further...+ Arhi in a HAHK relationship will be more fun to watch than in a forced marriage...
Areeba...coming back to the lighter side...I loved the "Tum mujhe uncle ji keh rahi ho?"😆😆😆
Nithi...Thank you!!!
Sari...totally with you...I think he came back to the house because he had not had enough of Khushi...Payal se sorry bhi kehna tha...but this was in his mind too...😃
Edited by MsUniverse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Zuzana

sharu and shwets: I want snake disappear from the screen the instant arhi are married😆


Shwets loved your high points..dont you think he was being empathetic just because it was her babuji...arhi both bond well when the topic is parents ..you see ASR becoming Arnav the instant its about them being orphans or its about their parents...that boundary is increasing now because of his guilt towards Payal...he is still Arnav when its about Payash. Thats it Shwets...this empathy will not extend beyond this..when Snakes truth comes out will he be empathetic to kushi? I highly doubt about it...he will be back being ASR then.

I wont take away the credit from him for being patient when she damaged his tyre.😉


I know yaar...I'm highly skeptical about Arnav being on Khushi's side after he comes to know about Shyam's reality. Maybe this opinion of mine is pessimistic because we know that a 'misunderstanding will bring them together'...
I mean if he believes her so soon, 'narfrat paas aane dene na de' and "kaash main tumse mohabbat kar paata" go out of the door!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

YIPPPEEE...loads of Arhi today...!!

After one episode of the lead couple in the background they were at the forefront again...

So they were and I loved it!!!
Arnav got to see Khushi's world...her challenges...her sorrow/////her difficulties and her happiness...So far Khushi has been a strange object to him ...who is different...but some one who drives him out of his senses in every possible way of the world...be it anger, be it passion, be it attraction, or be it hate...but today for the first time he saw her as a real person...who has her own guilt (feeling responsible for Payal's marriage), her own challenges (taking care of a sick father), her moment of happiness (Payal hug), and her own baggage (Shyamu...who acted weird by any possible definition)...

You said it ... in this visit, he saw Khushi in her own world, and all the challenges she faces on a daily basis ... I hope it does remind him of his own times and what he went through as well ... making the connection stronger ...
And I loved the sisters' hug today ... and Arnav's expressions as he saw it ...

And it was not so difficult for him to connect to it all...
He was there to help her when she struggled to open the door while taking babuji inside (wonder what everyone else was doing...Specially Garmia madam)
AND he stayed to check if she needed a doctor, medicines ... in short he was there for her ... okay, he redeemed himself from my bad books of yesterday 😉
This Garima, sorry to say, is a waste of space ... cv's, bring back the previous actress, she was so much stronger!
I loved Khushi's expressions in that scene ... random, I know, but I just did!
He cringed when there was a mention of Shyamu...a feeling not too far from what his own beloved Khushi felt
Again, I liked both their expressions there ... also liked her obvious hesitation in calling her own fiance ... hope he noticed that too, or was he too busy fuming? That would work for me as well! 😆
He rejoiced when he saw the sisters hug...
Like I said, I loved their expressions there 😳
He felt what she felt...They connected like never before...
Then one more proof of a transformed Arnav came...He wanted to apologize to Payal (or was it that he wasn't quite done with Gupta house..and went back because it did not feel like the time to say GoodBye yet)...
He hadn't had his regular daily dose of Khushi madness to lighten up his day, that's why he went back ... apology toh sirf bahana tha! 😆
He apologized to Payal...but what makes this man the most uncomfortable is being caught being emotional in front of anyone...It makes him feel vulnerable...He feels a loss of control...He hates it...He will put up any facade to oppose it...remember Diwali night? Same pattern yesterday when he tried to look disconnected with Khushi...Thankfully the phone call came right in the nick of time for his defenses to ease a bit..and he said what he felt...His guilt for playing the role he has in Payal's life...
Payal may not be a charmer but one thing that I really like about her character is that she is a very sensible girl...She thanks Arnav for saving her from a marraige about dowry...but she also mentions how Khushi felt...and the Arnav's redemption on this account is complete when he restlessly says...BUT THAT WASN"T KHUHSI"S FAULT...IT WAS MINE>>>>Aww...loved it...Arnie Loved it...
I really liked Payal in this scene ... she accepted his apology very gracefully, and lessened his own guilt by telling him that he actually saved her from a bad marriage ... it was true, but none of her own family, except for babuji had ever acknowledged that ... that Khushi's latecoming that night was actually a blessing in disguise for Payal ... for Payal to say this to Arnav was incredibly graceful. For once I liked Payal's acting and dialogue delivery here, ... and also, I was VERY glad that she brought up that Khushi still felt guilty about it. And liked Arnav's instantaneous response 'it wasn't Khushi's fault' ... his protectiveness showing again after ages!!!
As soon as he spots teary eyed Khushi wanting to say something...he wants to run away...He can't have this open display of emotions in front of Payal...No sir..😊 Defense mechanism goes up...says I don't want to hear anything from you...
Yep ... and also maybe what Payal just said - that it was Khushi who suffered the burden of guilt because of his actions? So he actually needs to apologise to Khushi again ... but he's not ready for that one yet ... too much emotion involved.
But our chamkeeli is not the one to give up on him...if he won't listen on his own SHE WILL MAKE HIM...Way to go Khushi...MAKE HIM!!! By hook or by crook (or by a hair pin in this case😃)...she makes him stop...Tells him Sorry and Dhanyawad...keeps it brief and instructs him...to leave...
This reminded me of a scene from some Western sitcom, am trying to remember - Phoebe in Friends? The last bit ... after an emotional speech, the sudden "ok, I'm done now, bye." 😆

Uh..Oh...this couple is in trouble..They are establishing the rules of engagement...and by that I am not referring to engagement as in marriage...but how their relationship will be...Who will make all the rules...who will follow...Or will there be a rule like that? I love it...nothing is a given for them...Nothing conventional...👏
Their only convention will be ... if one makes a rule, the other will challenge it! Arnav bitwa, far cry from what your life with La would be ... 😆 If you want a peaceful life, stay far away from Khushi! If you want a LIFE, as opposed to just living, get off your bu** and go get your girl!!!
In any case...the whole tyre changing scene was quite funny...Arnie the lion...don't try to show her who wears the pants in the family...because when it comes down to it...she can get her hands dirty and do what traditional girls that you are familiar with (think Anj...)...will never even dream of doing...
Loved his challenge - I can't change it, so what? As if you can??!! And of course she can!!
Little bit of carping here though - factual error, she let the air out, she didn't puncture the tyre, all it needed was an air pump ... why bother to change the tyre? Isn't Happyji's garage right next door and doesn't it have an air pump? And I didn't really like her announcing it to the world that he can't change a tyre ...

But most of all I loved the last bit of exchange...
I should say sorry but I won't - because you should have stopped and listened to me when I told you to. Not asked you to - TOLD you to. You asked for it. 😛
I should say Thanks but I won't.. because if you do something stupid and get yourself into a mess, you make up for it, I'm not going to play hero and do it for you. You asked for it. 😛


(I should say you matter to me more than anything...but I won't)
Wonder how they will eventually say it ... judging by the way they're going, it will not be a conventional I LOVE YOU by any means!!!
My rating 9.3/10 babuji scenes creep me out...Do they have to make it so dramatic..?YIKES>>
Would love your take/ feed-back guys...😃 IPKKND ROCKED TODAY!!
Loved your take, Sush ... especially after the dose of negativity on the forum ... I was expecting rank silliness on Khushi's part, and was pleasantly surprised by what I saw. Enjoyed the episode ... and your take!!!

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