Sahir-Aarzoo-Zaki Aur Saazish :D - Page 4

Originally posted by: indranigupta

First things first

Harshad is doing an absolutely fav job, and the actor playing Zaki is horrendous (its my opinion, please forgive me). Coming to the story, I didn't like it, period.

That Saahir could stoop so low to gain love/obsession/business deal at the cost of forever destroying a wonderful brother relationship. It sucked, big time!

Well! who is Saahir to decide whether, his love is genuine or his brother's love. Even if Zaki manipulated Arzoo's vulnerability, who has given him the right to prove that Zaki is using her as a sexual commodity.

Man, you should look at yourself. For the past seven years, you have only tried to prove your worth, against whom- a comatose woman, whom you once loved, who was a part of your life. That this same wife might have betrayed his trust isn't enough to show all his actions are justifiable. Zeenat has missed the better part of her life being senseless. Doesn't or shouldn't it evoke pity, particularly from the one who loved her?

Whether the reports are true or not, whether Arzoo loved him or not, he had no right to manipulate the situations to such an extent, that it leaves no way out for a girl, who to say the least is absolutely all alone. Her family is a bunch of morons.

Zaki, please buck up, stop mooning around. if you really to exhibit your love and concern for someone, be assertive.

Arzoo's character has been butchered so badly, that I cannot feel any pain for her. Means two days ago, you loved Saahir to the point of giving yourself to him unconditionally. Now you are showing attitude to the same brother who has threatened your whole family. wow!

Another thing, I didn't like was the back flip of Saahir. Means you are showing attitude to your kid brother, who is probably going through the biggest crisis of his life.

One more thing, both the reports are fake, Zaki's and Saahir's because Samaira is not pregnant.

And I don't know why I have a feeling that this Samaira episode is Alvira's plan.

Originally posted by: crazzykuri

Nice post Jyoti.

I only like your post & not the episode. No need to go the extend of zaki & arzoo at nikah stage. They would have shown Sahir stopping Arzoo marrying zaki begore that. AND by way now SaAz married na BAS, go on their post marriage track why this flashback needed... atleast not for me.

Jyoti, since you allowed me to rant, here you go.

I don't see the show quality improving unless they change a major part of behind the camera crew, such as direction, scrip writing, dialogue writing, editing. Its pathetic to say the least. I think the Ph doesn't understand the fans rant, the main problem here is with the direction and script.

My first concern is the story is being told from a sadistic pov : Arzoo gets married to SAC becoz he wants her to, then she is already taking the money minded girl marrying a married man. Then she will have to take KA and Anam's taunt on being the dusri biwi and how she can't be like Zeenat. What is Arzoo's fault here ? Why no one is taunting Sahir of his second marriage ? Why no one is calling him a desperate ( Yes I'mean in 'that ' sense only, Yes we know SAC isn't desperate but the people don't ) Now that he has married her, can he just shut people's mouth , stop them from badmouthing his wife ? NO ! Thre is no reason why a girl is made to suffer like this for no fault of hers.

I don't have issues with Sahir being shown as grey/ negative till the marriage, as a man with high moral values wont force a girl to marry him when he is already married. So I'm ok with it. But they don't have to mess with all the characters for it. Specially the mother Nausheen. This is what I wrote in my post :

'Ammi i know you are angry on Arzoo, even i don't know why Arzoo agreed to be Sahir's second wife. This was aid by Nausheen begaum.

IS that so easy for a mother to allow her daughter become a second wife, a polygamous marriage ? The easiness with which she talked about her daughter becoming Sahir's dusri biwi , that was disgraceful to motherhood !

The daughter doesn't owe an answer to her mother about her marriage? That too in such situation? Are girls in India become THAT independent? I know they haven't, at least i haven't so i can speak for myself.

After the medical system, the concept of marriage and sensitive issue like molestation, now it's the turn of the most pure and most respected relation in the world to get ridiculed in the hands of Cvs : Motherhood !

Jyoti I don't think Sahir and Alvira has already spoke about what to do with Zeenat. You can throw chapels on me if they show that they have already taken decision on this.

Originally posted by: true2heart

Joyti and Shweta, you guys make such fabulous posts and collages Thank you.

I know, I know, the min I start to write, some people will shake their heads and say ki aa gayi single POV wali Sahir ki supporter. 😆 Its like we applaud the bad guys while the good guys get to keep their date with the daru bottle.

No problem 😆 .. this is one post where both POVs r more than welcome because its always fun to know different POVs 😳

Yeah Sahir hasn't been exactly a role model to look up to, but he is the one who has kept us hooked to the story throughout. He is the only one thinking things through, acting and reacting on situations. The others simply go through the motions not questioning anything that comes their way.

I agree Sahir is unpredictable and u just dunno whats his next move which is what makes his character and the story interesting .. thats why I dont mind his journey from a grey shaded character to becoming the ultimate hero for Aarzoo 😳

Cvs always showed Sahir with grey shades, he was never your mahaan or the devil kind of protagonist, he was always someone in between. We have never been shown his POV or his past to know what makes him do the things he does, and why he does the way he does,

yes right from beginning when he burnt the factory , we saw him having that grey shade or else he wont burn that factory either .,. he was always like this , its just that being the hero , we viewers expect him to become all positive overnight which is obviously not possible .. they journey got to b slow and logical ..

Anyway I won;t digress and will talk only about today's episode. What I loved most about it today was that the team work of 4 lions was on full display and they did a fabulous job of it, no bloopers, each scene was well executed and all the actors and their dialogues were spot on.

today episode was much better and logical that Friday one .. so yup agree again 👍🏼

Well let me start with Arzoo, I am not too sure she looked very happy marrying Zaki,. But I am sure Zaki's ott proposing, going behind her back to convince Nausheen and finally his willingness to help her financially, was what turned the tide in his favor. When you love someone and marry another, its the most heartbreaking thing one can do. and Arzoo was about to make the same mistake. These kind of marriages do not make anyone happy, its a compromise and very difficult to handle.

Yup for Aarzoo it was nothing but a compromise and the factors u mentioned r true .. she dint look happy but was trying to keep a normal face for the sake of her family ..

The saazish mein saazish wala part was superb really. Zaki from the day he saw SAAZ near the poolside, with Arzoo declaring her love for Sahir, he was hell bent upon separating them. He knew that Arzoo was madly in love with Sahir but because he wanted her, he made sure he played dirty. Telling Arzoo about Sahir's previous marriage wasn't wrong but putting him down by saying that he is just playing a game and that he doesn't love you was wrong.

Yes Zaki was no saint either .. he tried putting up his sweet image in front of Aarzoo and I also felt he took advantage of her weakness after the cab incident by proposing her for marriage exactly that time post cab incident when she was not feeling safe anymore .. so Zaki tried to show off that I m the knight in your shining armour and will keep u protected ..

He never gave Sahir the chance to explain himself to Arzoo, he just projected his brother in a wrong light, even to Nausheen, when he told her that Sahir bhai does not love Arzoo but I do and will keep her happy forever. Then to seal the deal , he brought out the paternity report when Arzoo said no to him, to show her that he was as victimized by Sahir as she was.

But here I might disagree a bit because I felt Sahir too never made any attempts to explain himself .. whenever he got chance to confront Aarzo o, he always went with a business proposal .. like I will give u as much money as u want but in return marry me so that Zaki marries Sam .. this is the way he always presented himself in front of Aarzoo .. he never accepted that he wants to marry her because he loves her or hears loosing her .. we know it because we saw his self-talks but Aarzoo never saw that .. so somewhere I felt Sahir too never made any attempt to explain himself to Aarzoo .. mayb he never wanted to explain himself either .. 😕

Today Sahir played Zaki at his own game and gave him Sheh and Maat. The same paternity report was brought to the fore, but in a different manner. Just the way Zaki had told Arzoo that Sahir does not love her and is doing dhoka, he told her that for Zaki,she is just another Samaira and he is only marrying her because he can't get her any other way. Same emotional manipulation and the same result, no wonder Sahir was so calm about it, he knew how Arzoo would react and that she would refuse to listen to Zaki after that.

but see the difference here is Zaki told Aarzoo what even Sahir told Aarzoo that he does not love her .. whereas in Sahir's case , he actually told Aarzoo which Zaki never told her about fake reports and proving that Zaki is lieing .. now if Zaki is really lieing , then Sahir remains truthful in his seh and maat game but if Zaki never lied and Sahir lied about fake reports , then Sahir turns out to b the liar here

I loved his back flip, we all have animal instincts and Sahir was just protecting what was his, even from his own brother. When Zaki said Love and war mein sab jayaz karna chahiye, I felt like laughing because zaki has never played fair either.Its my POV that I felt that Sahir was completely justified. As for the paternity test, we are yet to see which way the needle will turn. Now that Arzoo belongs to him, sahir will turn his attention towards the deal but I don't think that Zaki Samaira nikah will happen ultimately as Zaki is bound to turn negative soon.

Zaki might hv not played fair but I cannot say Sahir's actions r justified either ..I mean is it justified to threaten her by saying he will kill her family , I mean the precap that we saw ? .. Why does he need to forcibly marry her in first place now that she refused to marry Zaki which was his main motive to start with .. and if he is marrying Aarzoo because he loves her , then why not say the same to her ? ..

I hope Zaki does turn negative or else right now Sahir's actions r looking negative and Zaki is looking like a victim

All and all a wonderful episode and Sahir was simply superb. For me the only blooper was Sahir not calling a doctor or taking her to the hospital. She has third degree burns for god's sake. N the less said of Nausheen the better, she didn't even bother to come and check on her daughter's burnt feet ? Shadi ho gayi, chalo ab niyamat house nahi chodna padega ? Wah Wah !

I too had this issue .. noone was bothered about those burns .. not even applying any oinment 😕 .. where is Dr.Khurana when u need him 😆 .. hope he is seen morning 😆

Originally posted by: Junoonian

Jyoti - nice post. Like redviolet mentioned you always present all sides of the argument.
Shweta - I can't begin to imagine how difficult it is to be creative n make beautiful collages when the storyline is letting one down so badly. But you still manage to! Kudos to you.

Originally posted by: dakshaavi

Nice post jyoti and swetha your collages are beautiful .

Today's episode had lot of flaws no doubt about it from arzoo's family knowing sahir is a married man to dadi missing and arzoo who trusted zaki all the while today the very look of paternity report she pops out saying she hate zaki ...was she waiting to get an excuse to get rid of that marriage 😆

Thats what I felt .. she just got a excuse to run away from Zaki 😉😆 .. Sahir provided that excuse 😆😆 .. I remember when Zaki told Aarzoo about Sahir playing a game with her , she dint trust him and went to confront Sahir ... she believed only after hearing it from Sahir's mouth .. and here she believed Sahir at one go when he showed her those fake reports of Zaki .. she dint even ask Zaki once about his innocence .. this again indicates how she still trusts Sahir more than Zaki ..

What I loved is sahir's typical hero Wala attitude could be carrying arzoo with full haq , tearing the veil and stop zaki arzoo nikaah and hold her hand in front of every one dragged her to show the test report .

yup that was a sight to watch

Sahir said Ek Sachha aadmi my foot waat lagadoonga makki my brother ki sachhai ko jo mere pyaar ki beech mai Ayega 😆

Arzoo's best dialogue main nafrat karti hu aap se to zaki and aap se bhi to sahir ...was it like you are no less to sahir but today sahir confidently told he didn't lie about his marital status got a brownie point from arzoo...

yeah thats true .. Sahir was at least truthful about his marital status once he realised she has really fallen in love with him .. but in Zaki's case too we dunno who is lieing , its quite confusing to b honest 😆 .. Is Sam pregnent in first place 😆😆

Sahir's love for arzoo is strong enough for him to go against zaki and his posessiveness pushed him to do what he did today.

Not that what he did was right but don't you think arzoo too made a hasty decision to marry zaki and zaki chance pe dance ?

Aarzoo did make a hasty decision overnight due to various reasons .,. it was more of marriage of convenience .. more like compromise .. so Sahir stopping it was blessing in disguise for both Zaki and Aarzoo though his way of stopping it was wrong ..

Zaki is not worthy for arzoo neither he is financially independent not he is responsible what would have happened to arzoo's life if she has married zaki ...kept working in say aara again under sahir and depend totally on choudhrys again sahir ...what self respect she would have gain then? Sahir taunts & arzoo's bhashan & zaki no idea if he would have stopped his flirting ever.

True .. Zaki is still not matured enough to take responsibility of a family .. but again this holds in Sam's case too .. so Sahir too should stop forcing Sam on Zaki now in the name of deal 🤔

Marrying arzoo is like winning a game for sahir but he was not able to live with it for long bcoz I see arzoo taunt back and hurt him for every single mistake he has done.

Harshad back flip and the smirk while talking to zaki over all his expression were flawless . Harshad as actor was brilliant again today.

Me loved the backflip too though it did look evil on his part but HC looked sexy doing that 😉😳 .. I want Aarzoo to give him a taste of his own medicine which will b fun to watch .. thats the only way Aarzoo can make Sahir realise his mistakes ..

Originally posted by: Junoonian

I am sorry but I am going to jump in here with this thought that struck me as I read the above point in bold.

I remember most of us were talking about Alvira having a hand in Zeenat's accident. Sahir knows about it and he knows his mum did it to avenge him and KA also finds out cause she is a snoop. Maybe this is the power that KA has over Alvira. And this will obviously be a secret that Sahir would not want anyone to know. It will also go a long way in explaining Alvira-Sahir bonding.

Just a thought. Had to share.

Originally posted by: -Rojaa-

Jyoti, since you allowed me to rant, here you go.

I don't see the show quality improving unless they change a major part of behind the camera crew, such as direction, scrip writing, dialogue writing, editing. Its pathetic to say the least. I think the Ph doesn't understand the fans rant, the main problem here is with the direction and script.

I agree about the technicalities .. the execution off late is pathetic

My first concern is the story is being told from a sadistic pov : Arzoo gets married to SAC becoz he wants her to, then she is already taking the money minded girl marrying a married man. Then she will have to take KA and Anam's taunt on being the dusri biwi and how she can't be like Zeenat. What is Arzoo's fault here ? Why no one is taunting Sahir of his second marriage ? Why no one is calling him a desperate ( Yes I'mean in 'that ' sense only, Yes we know SAC isn't desperate but the people don't ) Now that he has married her, can he just shut people's mouth , stop them from badmouthing his wife ? NO ! Thre is no reason why a girl is made to suffer like this for no fault of hers.

I m waiting for Sahir to shut few mouths and if he does not do that , I will b disappointed in Sahir then .. I hv taken all his negatives too as part of his character sketch because I know redemption is coming post marriage but if he does not defend his wife when outsiders taunt him , then that will leave me disappointed for sure .. yesterday when those people where talking , Sahir did look pissed off but he quietly went inside with Aarzoo in his arms because Aarzoo that time was his top priority since she was injured .. but next time is similar scenario happens , I want to see Sahir roar back in defence of his wife

I don't have issues with Sahir being shown as grey/ negative till the marriage, as a man with high moral values wont force a girl to marry him when he is already married. So I'm ok with it. But they don't have to mess with all the characters for it. Specially the mother Nausheen. This is what I wrote in my post :

'Ammi i know you are angry on Arzoo, even i don't know why Arzoo agreed to be Sahir's second wife. This was aid by Nausheen begaum.

IS that so easy for a mother to allow her daughter become a second wife, a polygamous marriage ? The easiness with which she talked about her daughter becoming Sahir's dusri biwi , that was disgraceful to motherhood !

Though I despise this Nausheen character but still I feel she said that because in Muslims law does allow second marriage for some speicfic reasons .. mayb thats why Nausheen said I dunno the reason why she married Sahir .. but yes as a mother she need to find out and just not wait for someone to come and spoonfeed her with infos 🥱

The daughter doesn't owe an answer to her mother about her marriage? That too in such situation? Are girls in India become THAT independent? I know they haven't, at least i haven't so i can speak for myself.

After the medical system, the concept of marriage and sensitive issue like molestation, now it's the turn of the most pure and most respected relation in the world to get ridiculed in the hands of Cvs : Motherhood !

I want to wait for the flashback to get over today to understand why exactly Aarzoo dint tell the reason to her mother before getting married .. what could b her majboori behind it .. and then only we can judge she is right or wrong 😕

Jyoti I don't think Sahir and Alvira has already spoke about what to do with Zeenat. You can throw chapels on me if they show that they have already taken decision on this.

hmm I know that was just wishful thinking from me

Originally posted by: jyoti06

good u vented out ,. will feel light and relaxed now 😆🤗

Originally posted by: -Rojaa-

🤗It feels good , like phew 😆 According to new Tb article businesswoman Mrs SAC is on the way 😆 I dont know why im laughing so much 😆 It willl be fun for us and SAC to see choti si Arzoo in businees mode 😆😆

And SAC wont be able to digest it , well he asked for it. The article metions ''She will become a strong business woman and money minded. Owing to which she will become heartless and will not care about the world as she feels that she has suffered a lot. On the other hand Sahir will not be able to accept Arzoo's changed behavior."