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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

What does Hinduism say about taking those vows but telling the bride, “I can never be a husband to you.” Isn’t there a conflict? Enlighten me because I don’t know about the religion / law.

His line of I can never be a Husband to you is in physical aspect. Because ritually/legally he was her husband even if he claims he's not. He told that in physical way he can't never be her husband and can't fulfiil the duties of a husband in that way. And I guess there's no punishment for this.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Sorry. I don't know about the adultery part and the punishment. I'm not that aware😭

But I know something else.

Disclaimer: this is not about Sai😆

All the female leads break at least one promise (at least initially) and completely if the guy they are married to is not the male lead (and they eventually return to the male lead) of the show I.e. taking his line of family ahead (which is one of the promises given at the time of marriage rituals) because they refuse to sleep with him making pillow walls🤣🤣

Also, they break another promise of seven birth companionship if the guy they are getting married to is not the male lead of the show, because the second lead will sacrifice, or turn negative or die🤣

I'm a Hindu and saw a marriage taking place in front of me and the Pandit telling the promises I don't remember all the promises but I realised many things need to be changed now as times have changed.

As far as Virat is concerned, I'll take what sujz replied. If that is taken into consideration, Virat is really keeping Samrat's marriage vows intact and his own too⭐️from the time Samrat got married, he has clearly maintained the distance from Patralekha (even though we all want him to be firm, but that he is not with anyone but Sai😆) He always called her a friend and never misguided her.

So at least in that aspect, I'm proud of him😆(even though after marriage, he told Patralekha that he hasn't broken the promise and sang the same song to Sai for some time too. I see that as his self defense where he really wanted to believe that he really is Virat Chahvan jyanchi pakki zuban🤪)

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Posted: 4 years ago
#13

When both marry ritually they promise holding Agni dev as witness

Dharmethi in action

Arthechi in finances or for money

Kamaechi in physical pleasure

Mokshchi in liberation

Na ti charami I shall not forsake you and desire another


The above is applied to bith

Hindu law is clear that you shall follow the above ritually.

As per Hindu law ( current ) man cannot even marry another without divorcing the first.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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“Om esha ekapadi bhava iti prathaman,” the groom says.
“Dhanam dhanyam pade vadet,” the bride complies.

In the first vow, the groom says I will provide welfare and happiness for you and the children that we bear and you shall offer me food and help whenever it is required. In response to this, the bride promises to be responsible for the complete household management.

The vow beckons the willingness of both the partners to bring prosperity in their lives; each is agreeing to fulfil their respective role.


“Om oorje jara dastayaha,” the groom says.
“Kutumbum rakshayishyammi sa aravindharam,” the bride replies.

In the second vow, the groom says that together, we will protect our children and home, and the bride in return promises to stand with her husband as his strength and courage. She pledges to rejoice in his happiness and in return, demands him to be loyal to her.

The second vow is where the couple seeks union on emotional, mental, and spiritual levels. Since they will be partners, they seek strength for protecting each other through all phases of life.


“Om rayas santu joradastayaha,” the groom says.
“Rava bhakti as vadedvachacha,” the bride assures.

In the third vow, the groom hopes for a wealthy and prosperous future for both of them and their children. The bride responses by giving an assurance of staying loyal to her husband and putting every other man in her life as secondary.

The third sacred vow of Hindu wedding is where the bride and the groom pray together for wealth and prosperity and promises to fulfil their spiritual obligations. They also seek blessings for the ability to educate their children and look after all their needs. The vow beckons physical and spiritual loyalty of the bride and groom towards each other throughout their lives.


“Om mayo bhavyas jaradastaya ha,” the groom says.
“Lalayami cha pade vadet,” the bride responses.

In the fourth vow, the groom declares to the bride that she has made her life complete and promises to respect her. He hopes for their children to be obedient and noble. He also hopes for a long life of their children and expresses interest in striving for their education. The bride promises her husband to shower with joy and happiness and do everything possible to please him.

The fourth vow of the Hindu wedding ritual indicated the importance of a family in Indian society. The couple pledges to strengthen their family together by upholding family values. The couple also expresses gratitude towards each other as well and seeks blessings for their future progeny pray to be noble and obedient. They also vow to be responsible parents to the children and provide them with education and correct upbringing.


“Om prajabhyaha santu jaradastayaha,” the groom declares.
“Arte arba sapade vadet,” the bride replies.

In the fifth vow, the groom calls the bride his best friend and a well-wisher. He thanks her, and asks God to bless her. To this, the bride promises to love and cherish him all her life. She says that his happiness and sorrows are now her happiness and sorrows. The bride promises to the groom to honour him and strive to fulfill his wishes.

The fifth vow of the wedding beckons the importance of loyalty and dependency on each other. The groom expresses his gratitude and calls the bride his best friend, whereas, the bride, in return, promises to love and cherish their relationship forever.

“Rutubhyah shat padi bhava,” the groom says.
“Yajna hom shashthe vacho vadet,” the bride promises.

In the sixth vow, the groom says to the bride “Now that you have taken six steps with me and I am delighted. Would you promise to fill my heart with the same happiness for the lifetime?” To this, the bride promises to be by her husband all her life. Together they pray to seek the blessings of God to bestow them with a long and healthy life that is replete with peace and prosperity.

The sixth vow gives the groom the opportunity to tell his bride the depth of his happiness to be able to find her. The bride affirms her affection towards the groom promises to stand by him forever. This vow also beckons the importance of health, peace, and prosperity in one’s life.


“Om sakhi jaradastayahga,” the groom says.
“Attramshe sakshino vadet pade,” the bride replies.

In the seventh and last vow, the groom declares “we are now husband and wife, and now we will stay together for eternity.” In its reply, the bride says that with God being the witness, she is now his wife and says that both of them will cherish and honour each other forever.

The final vow that beckons the completion of the holy union is sealed with a pledge of being companions for life. The couple promises to stand by each other and be true in their relationship always. The oath of loyalty and the willingness to spend a life with not another human being but with a friend, are the things that make the last vow a special one.



As per this Sai has to be his best friend 🤣🤣

Jokes apart, the vaada to Pakhi holds no importance infront of these vows and the entire ritual one goes through.. I saw in one wedding they had a vacchan like, my house, my money is all yours I can never deny you any right on them .. Your respect is my responsibility.. So yeah they have different modified vacchans in different cultures...but they are almost the same..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

Hi guys. Here are 2 questions. 1) What does Hinduism say about extra marital affair/adultery/woman going after a married man? Pakhi has been shown to sit in Hindu rituals, why is there no guilt? She took the Hindu wedding vows with Samrat, are there no repercussions for breaking them?

Of course adultery is one of the biggest crimes in Hinduism as well, especially, its done by married person. The person is called "Charitra hin" meaning "Character less". However, just like in any religion a person who goes after his/her own desires doesn't see right or wrong. Pakhi is that case. Also, for whatever reason in this show lunatic family is completely oblivious to the fact that Pakhi is after Virat or they are supporting it. Who is there to punish her?


2) Virat’s vows to Sai during marriage, which one is heavier, his promise to PP or the religious vows to Sai? Are there no repercussions for not fulfilling your wife’s needs (love and more)?

Of course, his duty as husband is heavier, compared to promise to PP. However, there is a big practice in Hinduism that "Pran Jaye par Vachan na Jaye" meaning "even at cost of losing your life, don't break your promise". When people break promise they take penance for it voluntarily to correct the wrong karma of breaking a promise.

There can't be a marriage as per Hindu tradition without completely offering one's Tan (physical self), Man (heart and mind), and Dhan (Wealth). And that goes for both man and woman. In fact part of Saptpadi is that, but what it means in this show's context is Virat accepted during Saptpadi(pheras, or circles) that he will fulfill all those duties. Now, how is a pandit or anyone supposed to know what is going on in his head. Sai would have been his wife if marriage happened, but she accepted his vaada deal and never demands her right because she knows she gave her word to Virat. Again remember "pran jaye par vachan na jaye" is big part of her psych. She does feel torn between being his wife rightfully and knowing that she made a promise.

There are repercussions, but not in a sense that, this will happen to the man in question or that will happen to him, but from Karmic point of view. He neglected his wife and didn't fulfill one of the wedding vows, so Karma will get back to him and snatch away his happiness as well and bring him the same pain and its 10folds.


In Islam, adultery is one of the biggest abominations (Major Sins) and there are punishments set for adulterers.

In Hinduism adultery is one of the biggest abominations too, but when does it stop any filthy person of any religion from committing adultery? But the punishment is in the hands of the one who has been wronged as per Hinduism. It is not set for all. Yes, it speaks of such bad Karma coming back 10folds, but also leaves it to the person who has been wronged. Now its the person's Karma that he/she wants to forgive or Punish.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat's Vaada to Pakhi led to him explaining the kiss on his kurta to Pakhi the next day of his Suhaagraat and also led Pakhi to enter his room and his personal discussions whenever she would want.. It led Pakhi to hope that she can pack his and her clothes in the same bag and Virat being a nice and good friend did not deny her so.. It led Pakhi to have expectations that she could share the same special moments that Virat shared with his wife.. It led her to disrespect and manhandle Sai..It also has led Didi to assume that she can show her special form of care and concern only towards Virat even when he doesnt want it and he wants his wife to do so...


Sai's vaada to Pulkit led to her hurting Virat, him being extremelyy angry, his family easily manipulating him to get inhuman, Pakhi abusing Sai and ultimately Virat throwing Sai and her mother like figure who Virat claimed to respect a lot, out of the house , denying food yet again after his other flop vaada..


Vaada vaada... doesnt suit them at all....they should stick to their marital vows😆

Edited by asmi_joya - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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In India hindus follow the rules set by our parliament and courts, whereas for muslims they have their own muslim personal law, so therefore we have different ways of pursuing adultery (as in punishing the living)


Rest for what our shatra's say about adultery is of very high standards and you'll most probably not find anyone matching up to it in the time we live.


and dont take the shown rituals seriously by any measure...they pull rituals out of magic box as they please to make the show "interesting".


this is exactly the side effect of rituals shown in tv shows, that those who don't know the culture..fall for what is shown as real or even thinking its close to real...which its not!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ALUJNA21

Good topic good thoughts good points but Pakhi has support both from her maternal side and her in-laws family they all support and encourage their little princess as for them it is respect for the elder babhi to her devar.......

The reason she never thought about it.....the reason she has no time to think about Samrat...what if Virat had gone missing they would have supported Sai the same way....

Whey Pakhi never gives so much love to her chote devar mohit but only Virat and others turn blind consciously only because they know the real reason and it is a way to make youngers close their mouth and eyes to not judge the elders.....

I'm agreeing about your EMA with Virat you also just agree with us as it is something which keeps happening in Chavan family.


@bold Don't know why it just sounds 🤢


😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ALUJNA21

Good topic good thoughts good points but Pakhi has support both from her maternal side and her in-laws family they all support and encourage their little princess as for them it is respect for the elder babhi to her devar.......

The reason she never thought about it.....the reason she has no time to think about Samrat...what if Virat had gone missing they would have supported Sai the same way....

Whey Pakhi never gives so much love to her chote devar mohit but only Virat and others turn blind consciously only because they know the real reason and it is a way to make youngers close their mouth and eyes to not judge the elders.....

I'm agreeing about your EMA with Virat you also just agree with us as it is something which keeps happening in Chavan family.

Because she cares for Virat and is concerned about him🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I doubt pakhi had paid attention on d marriage vow or on samrat , her whole attention was on virat , her imagination that virat filling her maang & making her wear mangalsutra , so sub Consiously she had married virat , so deep inside she consider Virat as her husband that's why she tries to impose her rights on virat which is purely wrong & cheating to samrat.


This is just my pov .

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